Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Toroba]

I do not know all her health complications. Still, from my husband’s health I can say, you CAN survive at least a month without meds (maybe longer) with a pacemaker. Keeping hope alive.

Agree. I can’t tell you how many of my pharmacy customers are not compliant with their medication. They can go weeks without realizing they’re out of refills. Going without is risky but not the end. Don’t give up hope.

 

[VenturaJen]

The positioning of holster is odd, but maybe not. I have heard talking heads on CNN and Fox stating it shows someone unfamiliar with gun holstering. That could be, but it is unique. Certainly displaying it in that way is bold and anyone watching their camera would immediately call 911. I think that is important.

Sometimes when a thing is odd…it is dilberate.

 

[cady]

Maybe he is just another sicko and this was one of his fantasies made real. It is so OUTRAGEOUS.... jmo but I still think he had help.

 

[stmichael]

A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports.

RadarOnline.com can reveal insiders close to the case believe the 84-year-old's captors would be familiar with the inside of the 84-year-old's $1million home, given interior cameras were allegedly smashed during her kidnapping.

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone.

Nancy Guthrie Abduction Points to 'Inside Job': Chilling New Theory Emerges Surrounding Masked Man Behind Disappearance of 'Today' Host Savannah's Mom

A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports. RadarOnline.

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I find this interesting because it gives confirmation of
1) inside cameras
2) the family specifically monitoring NG (or at least that was the intent)
3) access to people (which is more that most in a home where only the homeowner has access).

Now, if these were set up by the family surely they were recording. Were they a separate system from the Nest? All home wifi systems and more elaborate CCTV now use cloud based recording. Why in this context would that not be available (it would not make sense otherwise to monitor their mom in case of falls, they need to access the footage, they are not watching 24/7).

Now the huge advantage of cloud based recordings (as opposed to back in the day when a skell would smash and grab a local dvr during the crime) is that you will record the person disabling the system and have it on your cloud/push alert even if the camera is disabled (just like the doorbell cam). So what happened here? And with the approach angles to inside cameras you'd probably have some better footage as the cameras were being disabled (and again why smashed, just spray and disconnect them, again amateur approach).


edit: conjecture based on veracity of the article which we can't confirm I suppose

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Hi I'm new but have been lurking for over a week.

First, thank you to Tricia for pausing the thread, cleaning it out and restating the importance of the rules which differentiate Websleuths from Reddit and fb IMO (which is why I'm here and not there).

My question: I know the people detained have been released but what about the car LE had towed? Has it been released to it's owner or does LE still have it for testing?

Also I'll be forever grateful to whoever can tell me what "db" or "dbm" means at this site! I think I've figured out the other abbr. Thanks!

For you and all the many new members and guests following this case: here is a list of shorthand and abbreviations frequently used on this site. Hope it helps!

Thread 'Websleuths Lingo'

Jan 2, 2011

AFAIK= And For All I Know/As Far As I Know
BARD= Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
BBL= Be Back Later
BBM= Bolded By Me
BRB= Be Right Back
BTW= By The Way
BUMP= "Bumping" this post to the top of the thread
COD= Cause Of Death
ETA= Estimated Time of Arrival OR Edited to Add
FB= Facebook
FWIW= For What It's Worth
GMAB= Give Me a Break
HNN= Headline News Network
HTH= Hope This Helps OR Happy to Help
IIRC= If I Recall Correctly
IKWYM= I Know What You Mean
IMO= In My Opinion...

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[LAhiker]

I don't even want to imagine that
New Ring video's are popping up so much now from that neighbourhood that i'm actually don't want to keep checking them as it just creeps me out too much, even being from the other side of the world!

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022794358483812803

The guy in the first two sections of this Ring video looks like the guy who is seen in another Ring video crouching in an arched white entryway. To me, he (or they if they are different in the two Ring videos) look(s) taller and skinnier than the masked guy in NG's entryway. (He's also not wearing a mask.)

The last section of this Ring video appears to show a different guy trying to see if he can open the driver's side of someone's car. At least, he is dressed very differently.

JMO

 

[Assassino]

Is it 100% confirmed that there was a white van connection to those who were detained last night?

If so, that would mean two operations now and two white vans related to the homes they targeted. Don't want to make any assumptions completely, but it feels like right now they are heavily weighing any tips involving white vans in the area.

 

[keek]

I think with the internet as it is this case is worldwide, I am in England and our news both online and off is full of the NG story,

Yes, celeb interest. We know all about the royals, every move if you are a scanner abouter online things. This awful story is also covered big by DAILY MAIL as you def know. IMO

 

[Luna20]

IYO—
1. There is a video of a masked person wearing bulky clothing /possible self-disguised with a common backpack and gloves. So far no to VIABLE identification of said person has been made—at least one WRONG tip resulted in person detained and released.
2. There is a DNA sample taken from the house that has yet to be proved tied to the crime. Yes—it is not NG’s DNA but plenty of people leave DNA when they come into homes.
Has anyone considered it could be the DNA of a LE person that after analysis will be ruled out? With people going into the crime scene at various times and possibly contaminating it, this possibility occurred to me.
3. At this time no info as to WHY last night’s search happened—whether one or more tips from the tip line or a lead developed from LE investigation. No person was kept in custody.
4. In most cases I have read about evidence taken from a search warrant search CONFIRMS information developed and tied to a likely suspect. So while forensic search brings out evidence to tie the person to the actual crime, that person is usually undergoing a 24 or 48 hr hold for questioning.
Nothing like that happened last night— no longer questioning has occurred so far. Rio Rico guy released as soon as…don’t know if any people last night even went to police station for questioning.

All taking random DNA and other “evidence” from the wrong/inaccurate search site does is wear down the people doing the lab work.
They may have collected evidence at the scene last night—
Or they may not—

5.The forensic people had to be there IF the suspects were viable for the crime.
Maybe they took 100 samples away and after taking to the people decided it was a nothing burger…think they will spend time/money to process all those samples looking for something that isn’t going to be there?

Can you please explain the first part of #4?

“Search warrant search confirms information developed and tied to a likely suspect…that person is usually undergoing a hold for questioning”

 

[DizzyB]

I have no hope that Nancy is alive, but this has to be solvable. There is no leaked information about exactly how entry was made, but I am of the opinion that there was much more evidence of a crime, than just the blood down the front path. I do wonder if there is any audio from cameras, and DNA that can link back to the perpetrator/s. There has to be a lot of undisclosed evidence.

 

[Napoli]

It was a federal warrant issued last night. That is telling and doesn't just imply FBI jurisdiction, but confirms it.

JMO.

No it doesnt. it doesnt say the FBI TOOK THE LEAD. THEY CAN use their resources when applicable, However. If you can find anywhere that is says the FBI has taken the lead, please advise. moo

 

[washysmum]

24 hours in AZ

I was going to say 24 hours in Australia not sure in usa

 

[dogmom805]

The longer time goes on and no perp is found, the more far fetched (casting a wide-net here) the ideas can get.

In regards to a targeted act, I wonder if AG had a side relationship? Someone who wanted to 'help' her? (if there was expression of any frustration) Or someone who wanted revenge against her or someone else in the G family?

It does seem that if it was something like this, LE would have already been on it. Especially the rumors about a possible bandmate all over SM. I feel LE would have already figured that out.

I do feel that it's a local to the area. And from the start I have felt that the ransomer was either in the house, or connected to someone who was.

I sure hope that this doesn't become a cold case. Heart aches for the family, with each new lead that seems to go nowhere.

ALL JMO.

 

[rosesfromangels]

The positioning of holster is odd, but maybe not. I have heard talking heads on CNN and Fox stating it shows someone unfamiliar with gun holstering. That could be, but it is unique. Certainly displaying it in that way is bold and anyone watching their camera would immediately call 911. I think that is important.

@St.Michael gave a very good explanation for the holster positioning. It is indeed a known behavior sported by some in Mexico. Keep in mind weapons in Mexico are very strictly regulated, so those displaying this behavior would be considered more along the lines of "vaquero" style. Read St.Michael's post upthread, he did a thorough job of explaining the cultural significance.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[BellaToothless]

Nancy Guthrie Abduction Points to 'Inside Job': Chilling New Theory Emerges Surrounding Masked Man Behind Disappearance of 'Today' Host Savannah's Mom

A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports. RadarOnline.

www.aol.com

Signs Point to an Inside job

“The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone."

Whoever this possible abductor is, they went inside the house and knew where those cameras were pointing," the insider added. "They were able to smash the cameras before their motion was visible in the recordings or streams. To do this, it takes a chilling level of intel."

 

[unresolvedmystery]

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Signs Point to an Inside job

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone."

Whoever this possible abductor is, they went inside the house and knew where those cameras were pointing," the insider added. "They were able to smash the cameras before their motion was visible in the recordings or streams. To do this, it takes a chilling level of intel."

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Still say she wasn't there to be abducted in the first place, it was staged after something happened elsewhere.

 

[su5ie]

Purchase of face shaving supplies in Arizona just went up by 5000%

I can't understand how it is precieved that porch guy / lantana man has a beard ?

 

[VenturaJen]

@St.Michael gave a very good explanation for the holster positioning. It is indeed a known behavior sported by some in Mexico. Keep in mind weapons in Mexico are very strictly regulated, so those displaying this behavior would be considered more along the lines of "vaquero" style. Read St.Michael's post upthread, he did a thorough job of explaining the cultural significance.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Whatever purpose of holstering this way, it is deliberate IMO. Either habitual or offleading.

 

[dogmom805]

Signs Point to an Inside job

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone."

Whoever this possible abductor is, they went inside the house and knew where those cameras were pointing," the insider added. "They were able to smash the cameras before their motion was visible in the recordings or streams. To do this, it takes a chilling level of intel."

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source or opinion?

 

[stmichael]

Signs Point to an Inside job

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone."

Whoever this possible abductor is, they went inside the house and knew where those cameras were pointing," the insider added. "They were able to smash the cameras before their motion was visible in the recordings or streams.

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To do this, it takes a chilling level of intel."

Or just having worked or been in the house and noticed the cameras.