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84 year old woman with mobility and health issues getting dropped off 120 seconds from time garage door opened by family members is a red flag. I truly believe something happened to Nancy by someone super close to her that she recently interacted with on 1/31/26. Based on all presented in media, it just appears to me the suspect at house tampering with the cameras is an aftermath to coverup what happened to Nancy prior to 2/1/26.
every time I hear about her not making it home or on the way in, etc. have the same question: why is there blood on the front walk?
 
  • #29,582
So have the kidnappers given up trying to get paid and stopped demanding ransom money? And how about the bitcoin man and his information on who the kidnapper is? Have these two just disappeared into the ether no longer to be heard from? Too many questions and no answers.......
There will be more communications, IMO.
 
  • #29,583
Sounds like she had an App to control the garage door, likely gave family access to it as well. The App is how they knew the garage door timing imo. Usually, you would open the door with the App (some have sensors for cars and it auto opens for the vehicle) and you would close the door with the wall button near the interior entry door. Easy, quick. Avoids the 3 steps and curved path at the front entrance in the dark.
Exactly + purse on shoulder + cane - it's probably easier to go in that way then front door . ETA : I am legitimately confused as to why using the garage door as a main entry is seen as unusual in general or in this case. JMO
 
  • #29,584
Many elderly people with mobility issues struggle with steps..especially if they use a cane. I believe there are a few steps she would have to walk down if she used the front door.
I agree. I hope we can put this issue to bed. Entry and exit through the garage seems sensible for someone with mobility issues, IMO. I'll explain why.

The route through the garage offers sure footing. The floor is even. The steps into the house from the garage are likely utilitarian, made of concrete or wood, and therefore flat. Electric or electronic doors make them easy to operate. In my opinion, a garage with electronic controls on the doors would be the main entry point for NG. It would offer the surest footing and ease.

The front door route is more demanding. The front walkway is beautiful. Nancy probably used often until a few years ago. It has stairs in 2 places, however. You can see in the Google Streetview images below, a black railing was added to the middle of the lower stairs between 2022 and last November. The addition of a railing indicates Nancy needed more assistance with steps in recent years.

Using the front walkway requires navigating two steps closer to the driveway and another step up into the alcove at the front door. The walkway has an upper section that is brick and the lower section that is stone. The screenshot from last fall highlights the unevenness of the stone section between the driveway and stairs. It appears to be cobbles, IMO, like the surrounding landscaping. A cobble walkway is far more uneven than brick.

In my experience, people with mobility issues prefer a hardpacked or paved surface to an uneven one. Relatives who rely on canes approach brick walkways with caution. I don't think they'd even attempt to negotiate a cobble one.

While the driveway is dirt instead of paved, it is hardpacked and easy to maintain. Both the front door/walkway route and the garage route require using the driveway. The front walk ends at the driveway, not at the street. What appears like it may be a mailbox at the end of the walk in the Nest video is actually the post of the black railing on the steps between the upper and lower sections of the walkway. The front door/walkway route to a waiting car or to the mailbox requires more walking on the driveway than the garage route does.

In summary, my opinion is that the garage route offers the safest and easiest access for someone like NG. My opinion
supports what the family member reported Nancy did on January 31st. The sheriff confirmed the garage door opened at 9:48 and closed at 9:50. The facts, the timeline of occurrences at NG's house that night, have been established by law enforcement based on evidence and analysis.

I hope this comparison of two routes helps those with doubts to understand that common sense supports the evidence established by law enforcement here. Practical analysis makes it reasonable and likely she did, and the investigation establishes she did.


Here's the screenshot of Streetview from Nov. 2025. Note there is a black railing in the middle of the lower set of stairs and the unevenness of the cobble section of the walkway.
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The screenshot from Streetview in March 2022 is below. Note the two sets of stairs: by the front entrance and halfway down the walkway toward the driveway.
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ETA: eliminating bad breaks and typo
 
  • #29,585
I don't think we know definitively that no one paid a ransom. As far as I know, that hasn't been officially disclosed. I think all we really know is that there was no (or very little) activity on the bitcoin account listed in the original ransom demand that Harvey Levin and a couple other news outlets received. We are not privy to whether the second letter denoted another form/method of payment, or if another communication altogether was sent more privately that requested another form/method of payment.

We should not assume that a ransom wasn't paid, that proof of life wasn't given, that proof of life was overtly asked for, or that those two ransom emails that the FBI are treating as authentic (or almost certainly authentic according to Harvey Levin and Mark Geragos on the TMZ podcast posted earlier today) are the only communications received.

We do know that someone may have recently purchased a luxury SUV.

JMO.
 
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Good points. I wonder why her pacemaker did not send an alert at the time she was awakened by masked armed strangers. My husband has a pacemaker and it sends data every night but it also has triggers setup to alert doctors if heart rate goes to high or too low. Certainly it would have spiked if she woke up. Maybe someone spiked her drink at dinner to make sure she slept soundly.
It did spike at 2am, but as explained on news recently, the spike could have also been the device was programmed to check in once a day to make certain that it was communicating.
“A pacemaker not only has the ability to create a heartbeat, triggering a heart to beat, but it’s also a sophisticated monitor of the patient’s heart rhythm, and a pacemaker is programmed to check in once a day, just to check in with its communication device and then ultimately the app that monitors it once a day,” he explained.
MSN
 
  • #29,587
The strange things are why do you remove and 84 yr old woman from her home and what do you do with her? Somewhere I read - among all the comments everywhere - that a former FBI experienced agent said the abduction appeared to be staged. Staged well after she was abducted? Staged by who? Why staged? Just an interesting perspective. Not much else to consider right now.
IMO they are saying staged by the last people to have been with NG. And yes, I could go down that path and even did kinda firmly in the beginning. But I have backed off thinking that because it just went too far with the weird ransom stuff.

Who knows, maybe the staging grew legs from afar. An elderly lady is missing who has a famous daughter. Something clicks with an unknown grifter/opportunist.

It's just all weird. Doesn't neatly fit into a box.

I still think it's someone in her orbit which could include family but at this particular moment I'm not leaning toward it being family.

All MOO
 
  • #29,588
Why didn’t she have a life alert device?
 
  • #29,589
Is it possible that one of the three detained/released last night is the person caught on NG’s camera?
Certainly it’s possible, as well as millions of other people that are of similar build and height.
 
  • #29,590
There will be more communications, IMO.
How long is this kidnapper going to wait to get paid. He has made threats in the past. Plus, he never(that we know of) provided proof of life. Does he even have NG or is he just an opportunist?
 
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Why didn’t she have a life alert device?
We don't know for certain she didn't but lots of people her age don't have one . None of the elderly people in my family have ever used one - and they have all lived into their 90s independent in their own homes.
 
  • #29,593
One would think. But that's also an assumption. After a while you stop checking in, you start ignoring push alerts. The subscription wasn't on the external cams. Why wasn't that paid, probably a lapse or oversight.

We don't know. At this point I am most interested in the inside of the crime scene, the situation with any alarm or other interior security, the supposed signs of forced entry that we are not clear about, and all that.
"The subscription wasn't on the external cams. Why wasn't that paid, probably a lapse or oversight." In the article about NG and her friends, one mentioned (and it was posted on her FB page) that she asked about cameras because she wanted to watch the wildlife. I understand that, I have a 92 year that lives two doors away, a 90 year old one street over and two 80+ year olds around the corner. They were interested in the 'dings' on my phone, and said they'd like one too BUT only for wildlife 🤦‍♀️

I would be interested in what the interior looked like as well. Initially Nanos claimed there was a forced entry (later walked that back) we know from pictures it wasn't the front door. Assumption: it was the back door around the corner from the garage.

What do you think might be found inside? Where do you think this unknown DNA was found. I have a thought and if so ... he really messed up.
 
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When viewing the up-close stills of suspect one thing I notice facially is the appearance of downturned eyelashes. I, like many others feel suspect is wearing a latex mask underneath ski mask. When I’ve browsed both male/female masks I’m noticing most of them lack lashes. The masks come up to the waterline and then completely cover the top eyelid. I’m feeling the lashes could possibly be the suspects own?
 
  • #29,596
We don't know how the pool was serviced in the past, at least I've never seen a reference to it; however, we do know (via the CNN article I posted earlier in the thread) that the company providing the recent service was there for their first time. NG's house was apparently new to them and their service route (starting with this most recent visit).
Well ok, however how is that relevant to the case?
 
  • #29,597
Why didn’t she have a life alert device?
Probably saw the pacemaker, camera system, and family and friends checking in as enough. All I can think of.
 
  • #29,598
Why have none of the people brought in for questioning proclaimed their innocence like the first guy they got wrong? I saw the mother said she’s innocent but weren’t two others detained? Innocent until proven guilty yes but I would have thought a statement or something given the public nature.
 
  • #29,599
I'm sorry to say I think it was the documentary done in Nov 2025 that triggered this. It was a doc on SG's life in Tucson, and her mother was included in that.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
Yes that Today show "Homecoming" really revealed a lot about her life in Tucson and her mother. She frequently had her mother and in fact whole family on air with her on various shows. Clearly in. the world we live in you can't do that.
 
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