AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Pharmasgirl]

The article states that .. not me lol. She never collected her own mail either, she had to have help. It points out that her mobility was indeed quite limited. I have had 5 femur surgeries and I can still walked to the mailbox. I just wonder exactly what limited her mobility to the point she could barely walk. Osteoporosis I have but it's treated with infusions, back issues I know are mobility limiting issues.

Has anyone read an articles that stated exactly what her mobility issues were from? age related, a fall, surgeries, etc.

I have not found one yet

No one specifically stated which leads us to believe age related but that’s not necessarily true. We can’t assume…

 

[Cassie P]

The strange things are why do you remove and 84 yr old woman from her home and what do you do with her? Somewhere I read - among all the comments everywhere - that a former FBI experienced agent said the abduction appeared to be staged. Staged well after she was abducted? Staged by who? Why staged? Just an interesting perspective. Not much else to consider right now.

Crime scene staging is done by a perpetrator to cover up the original crime. The goal is to avoid arrest, to get control of the investigation, and confuse and distract LE and the public. It is basically a hoax to cover up a crime.

I am not sure what the FBI agent had in mind, but for example, this could have been a robbery gone wrong, resulting in the death of the homeowner. The robbers decide to cover their tracks and pretend a kidnapping had taken place. This serves to scatter the police looking for the homeowner and kidnappers. LE typically then does not do a great job securing the crime scene, or examining the home for evidence. They use their resources out in the community searching for a victim who may still be alive. They are thinking kidnapping, not death during a robbery.

The ransom notes could just be part of the staging, or an attempt to make a big pay day off the death.

Same situation if someone killed NG in or outside the home. Stage it like a kidnapping.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Not sure if posted yet, but thread moving so fast hard to tell, so here is reporter Brian Entin's tweet from 2 hrs. ago:

https://x.com/BrianEntin
@BrianEntin


"Pima County Sheriff says last nights activity was a federal search warrant based on a lead they received. Traffic stop also connected. No arrest in either."

Sher

Yes. A couple of days ago DNA was discussed.

A housekeeper's DNA in the bedroom would probably be expected.

The pool person's DNA - definitely not expected in a bedroom.

Pool guys in Tucson don't go in the house. Usually they enter through the back or side yard in the back. MO

 

[Donswife48]

I think they’re the legitimate suspect(s), based on what LE has said (knew details from crime scene). Personally, I'm leaning toward Nancy never being taken alive, and that she’s buried in the desert somewhere, and has been for two weeks. No real kidnapper wants to extend the ordeal.

I'm not familiar with the area, but there have been posters that say there are many abandoned mines in the area close by. Maybe they just took her there instead of buried. JMO

 

[moonglow123]

The Range Rover does seem to be the most promising lead so far. I know they said the driver was cooperative and they did not end up arresting him.

But what did they find or see that caused them to search it, photograph it, seal it for evidence and then tow it away? Would that happen if it were just a nothing burger? It didn’t happen with the Rio Rico incident.

Hopefully they’re in the process of checking any DNA they found in it against Nancy’s and any other DNA found in relation to this case.

 

[connie9030]

Does the pacemaker require an internet connection to send those alerts to the doctor? If not, what sort of connection does it use? If (speculating) the internet had been disconnected at NG's home, wouldn't that prevent that sort of alert being sent?

Or perhaps only certain kinds of pacemakers send those alerts and others don't?

All MOO

Ours uses wifi. I think the doctor has to setup the alerts. It's possible the kidnapper knew about the pacemaker device and unplugged it before awaking Nancy so her racing heart wouldn't send an alert.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

The Apple watch which NG had, has fall protection. It works well and is reliable. JMO

I can attest to that!

 

[LRinCA]

Sher

Pool guys in Tucson don't go in the house. Usually they enter through the back or side yard in the back. MO

I think that's the same everywhere.

My point was that if the pool person was DNA tested and that person's DNA was in her bedroom, that would be a big red flag (IMO/MOO). I might not have made that clear.

 

[cait2007]

every time I hear about her not making it home or on the way in, etc. have the same question: why is there blood on the front walk?

The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.

 

[oc1234]

"The subscription wasn't on the external cams. Why wasn't that paid, probably a lapse or oversight." In the article about NG and her friends, one mentioned (and it was posted on her FB page) that she asked about cameras because she wanted to watch the wildlife. I understand that, I have a 92 year that lives two doors away, a 90 year old one street over and two 80+ year olds around the corner. They were interested in the 'dings' on my phone, and said they'd like one too BUT only for wildlife

I would be interested in what the interior looked like as well. Initially Nanos claimed there was a forced entry (later walked that back) we know from pictures it wasn't the front door. Assumption: it was the back door around the corner from the garage.

What do you think might be found inside? Where do you think this unknown DNA was found. I have a thought and if so ... he really messed up.

Forced entry could still have been through the front door. We have only seen the black security screen door, not the actual front door. Regarding the black security door, most people I know use these doors as screen doors and only lock them when the main door is open. (Not many people want to deal with unlocking/locking 2 doors each time they enter/exit). However, the back doors under the patio cover in the courtyard could have been damaged as well. We just don't know.

 

[Donswife48]

Once a day data dump is different than a triggering alert. If your heart rate triggers an alert it won't wait till the 2AM regular data dump to notify the doctor.

NG's pacemaker spiked at 2am on Sunday morning, per the news source.

Nancy Guthrie’s 2 a.m. pacemaker ping could point to heart rate-spiking struggle, lead cardiologist says​

MSN

 

[gin2]

The article states that .. not me lol. She never collected her own mail either, she had to have help. It points out that her mobility was indeed quite limited. I have had 5 femur surgeries and I can still walked to the mailbox. I just wonder exactly what limited her mobility to the point she could barely walk. Osteoporosis I have but it's treated with infusions, back issues I know are mobility limiting issues.

Has anyone read an articles that stated exactly what her mobility issues were from? age related, a fall, surgeries, etc.

I have not found one yet

Someone who can "barely walk" isn't using Uber regularly, as NG did.
That requires someone be able to walk to the vehicle, get in and out of vehicles of varying heights and walk to their destination. The destination may be close, but she's still managing with just a cane.

I don't think it much matters whether or not she regularly got her own mail. She had household help during the day. I'm sure they could do that for her if she asked them to.

 

[connie9030]

NG is the mother of a known tv news host. Why begrudge NG's missing because of the fact that millions of others are also missing. In my opinion, if it brings awareness to how quickly all of us can face an abduction or murder. And if it helps LE to develop better methods to catch an abduction earlier and bring them home in days rather than weeks, it's worth the coverage. I don't see a 3-ring circus, outside of social media. JMO

Crime scene staging is done by a perpetrator to cover up the original crime. The goal is to avoid arrest, to get control of the investigation, and confuse and distract LE and the public. It is basically a hoax to cover up a crime.

I am not sure what the FBI agent had in mind, but for example, this could have been a robbery gone wrong, resulting in the death of the homeowner. The robbers decide to cover their tracks and pretend a kidnapping had taken place. This serves to scatter the police looking for the homeowner and kidnappers. LE typically then does not do a great job securing the crime scene, or examining the home for evidence. They use their resources out in the community searching for a victim who may still be alive. They are thinking kidnapping, not death during a robbery.

The ransom notes could just be part of the staging, or an attempt to make a big pay day off the death.

Same situation if someone killed NG in or outside the home. Stage it like a kidnapping.

Staged by someone close to her to throw LE off track?

 

[warp3dwing]

I'm not familiar with the area, but there have been posters that say there are many abandoned mines in the area close by. Maybe they just took her there instead of buried. JMO

Oh wow, I hadn’t thought of that. There must be so many nooks and crannies in the landscape in Tucson. And in the heat, we might be getting to the point that recovering forensic DNA evidence or even a cause of death from a body can be difficult. Morbid and sad.

 

[Cindizzi]

I can't see this unless I log in, but I don't have an account. What does it say, please?

It’s a video of the ABC Evening news basically recapping last night’s events.

Maybe this will open without X/Twitter

2nd man detained, released in abduction of Nancy Guthrie

abcnews.com

 

[Andreee]

One of the rules here is not to belittle other posters, and to be civil with each other. TY.

And to report it.

 

[Cassie P]

Sounds like she had an App to control the garage door, likely gave family access to it as well. The App is how they knew the garage door timing imo. Usually, you would open the door with the App (some have sensors for cars and it auto opens for the vehicle) and you would close the door with the wall button near the interior entry door. Easy, quick. Avoids the 3 steps and curved path at the front entrance in the dark.

Yes if you have mobility issues this is how you would do it. You avoid the walkway and stairs up to the front of the house. And you don't have to fumble with door keys etc. There is said to be two doors at the front of the house. The regular door and a metal door. That would be a lot to handle with a cane, purse, etc. in the dark.

Just open the garage door with the app on your phone. Go into the garage and shut the garage door with the button near the interior entry door which is not usually locked. Usually just a small step to get into the house.

 

[GailAnne]

Reminds me of a suggestion I saw elsewhere…to put Nancy’s phone in a drone and fly it around Tucson to see if it would connect with her pacemaker since it acts as a “homing beacon”.

Pass maker signal to device is short range. Maybe 30 feet max if there are no obstructions.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Ours uses wifi. I think the doctor has to setup the alerts. It's possible the kidnapper knew about the pacemaker device and unplugged it before awaking Nancy so her racing heart wouldn't send an alert.

Thanks. Speculation, but I thought I had read that her internet had been disconnected which would serve the same function. Thanks for helping me understand how the pacemakers work.

 

[NewYork625]

Regarding using a new pool service company, I know that if my mom had been abducted and possibly murdered, and the crime was yet unsolved, I would be leery of using any of the service companies my mom had previously used.