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Very random - just googled and realized most homes in AZ don’t have basements (from the northeast so they are the norm here). If NG were to be alive somewhere, she would have to be somewhere pretty secluded, right? I know much of the populated AZ cities are pretty dense so the risk of neighbors seeing or hearing things would be high? Imo

I guess what I’m trying to say is if she was in someone’s home, unless it is huge and far away from other homes, if she tried to escape or made noise she might easily be heard
 
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Why didn’t she have a life alert device?
I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device
 
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Concerning the signal sniffer. A helicopter isn't going to be able to get within 30 ft in an urban area. Wouldn't a drone be much more effective and less risky?
Perhaps they could hang the detector on a tether but it would still need to be high enough to clear power poles or other obstacles. Also seems like urban areas would be teeming with radio frequency interference from other devices so maybe this is looking for her body in undeveloped areas. If she is deceased, her pacemaker could keep transmitting for years.
 
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Many elderly people with mobility issues struggle with steps..especially if they use a cane. I believe there are a few steps she would have to walk down if she used the front door.
Yes! My grandma always has to come in through the garage because there is a rail on the steps she can hold onto vs navigating the front walk and no rail. For all my grandparents and in laws they hate being helped even when it is repeatedly offered. I don’t think this should be held against anyone here. MOO
 
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DBM
 
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All persons released, but Range Rover in custody and sheriff stated RR owner was their primary person of interest (and may still be).
Do we have the initials of the person of interest who owns the RR?
 
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Brian Entin's latest post sure is interesting! (About using a sniffer to find Nancy's pacemaker)
I like him. He refused to reveal his location during the SWAT team event and respects le investigations.
 
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They’re saying he was the person of interest. If the car was only sold in the past few days, as someone in this thread speculated (or sleuthed?) earlier, but the cops weren’t aware of that, it might be that the person of interest is now who may have been driving it before it was sold.

JMO
I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?
 
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I discussed this early on in one of my posts that I studied pacemakers in a cybersecurity class where the topic was national security. Imagine lots of older congress members, president having pacemakers. The research shows not only are they hackable, but they transmit a pretty far distance a small packet which is purposed for dr offices to be able to send updates to firmware, software, etc. I think I posted if she near a dr office or hospital they might could ping her.
Bird box, I hesitate to ask this, as the pacemaker info has been confusing to me and I’m probably asking something that has been explained but I either missed it or didn’t understand it. Apologies in advance if that is the case. Here goes:

The pacer has a receiver/transmitter type of device that it “connects to” periodically. This device is located within a short range of the pacer, so usually at someone’s bedside or wherever they spend the most time. Through this connection, information is sent to whoever is set to monitor it, such as a cardiology group. That information usually includes three types of items, one being simply acknowledgement that the pacer is working; another being a sample of what the latest pacer activity has been, such as “normal sinus rhythm”, “tachycardia”, etc; and the other informational item being that it will alert to any “event”, such as significant tachycardia, etc. (There is probably a parameter that is set by the clinician regarding this.)

Is this basically how it works? In that case, when the patient is away from the receiving/transmitting device, it won’t be able to receive or send any information from the pacer.

So, does a “sniffer* work like a substitute receiving/transmitting device? You would sort of have to know of the general location of the person with the pacer in order to get close enough to it?
 
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I quoted the last sentence.
What am I missing.
I missed that! Interesting. My apologies. I had just read the other article which makes it sound like it’s a regular weekly thing they do.
 
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I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device

Maybe that's why Adult Protective Services business cards get left on front doors.


All imo
 
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I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?
We don’t know. It’s still listed for sale on their website.
 
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Mary Coleman
@Mary_reports
2h

For those asking about the scene involving a Range Rover, according to the Sheriff, there was no shooting or suicide involved in last night’s operations, as had been claimed by some.Says a traffic stop was made on a person of interest. The individual was cooperative and later released. On the number of people detained... he says anyone at the residence was technically "detained" since it is standard procedure to give investigators serving a warrant the freedom to conduct their search. He wasn't at scene and doesn't know exact number. But he does say no sign of Nancy was found at the residence. We’re of course still waiting for the FBI’s statement.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
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They’re saying he was the person of interest. If the car was only sold in the past few days, as someone in this thread speculated (or sleuthed?) earlier, but the cops weren’t aware of that, it might be that the person of interest is now who may have been driving it before it was sold.

JMO

If LE is interested in a certain vehicle, wouldn’t registration be one of the first things they’d check out? If the vehicle was newly purchased, I’d think a very recent date on the registration would indicate that. In fact they’d likely have access to the entire life history of ownership.
JMO
 
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I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device
Been there…!
 
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I missed that! Interesting. My apologies. I had just read the other article which makes it sound like it’s a regular weekly thing they do.
Your article states the family hired them. No worries. I am always willing to walk things back if I am wrong also. I believe there was also a statement from the Sheriff IIRC but didn't have it handy.

ETA I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong about anything. Sorry.
 
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Maybe that's why Adult Protective Services business cards get left on front doors.


All imo
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.
 
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Maybe something on a tether where applicable? IDK
The pacemaker has a very small battery operated transmitter looking for its own unique encrypted device/moniter, (usually close to the person I.e. phone) within a small location est. 5-30 ft. It is a specifically encrypted language that only “talks” to that specific pacemaker. Even though the pacemaker emits a low signal, I believe there is a way to track. NG’s personal unique encryption can be cloned to other devices (I,e, LE, FBI) and boosted beyond a mere 5-30 feet and reach almost 70’.
 
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