AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Eli9]

That article actually doesn’t say they are new and the article linked below makes it sound like it’s the usual company. So unclear.

Why Pool Cleaners Showed Up to Nancy Guthrie's Home After Disappearance

I quoted the last sentence.
What am I missing.

We reached out to the pool company .. they say they've never had a client at that address

 

[NewYork625]

They’re saying he was the person of interest. If the car was only sold in the past few days, as someone in this thread speculated (or sleuthed?) earlier, but the cops weren’t aware of that, it might be that the person of interest is now who may have been driving it before it was sold.

JMO

I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?

 

[fridaybaker]

I discussed this early on in one of my posts that I studied pacemakers in a cybersecurity class where the topic was national security. Imagine lots of older congress members, president having pacemakers. The research shows not only are they hackable, but they transmit a pretty far distance a small packet which is purposed for dr offices to be able to send updates to firmware, software, etc. I think I posted if she near a dr office or hospital they might could ping her.

Bird box, I hesitate to ask this, as the pacemaker info has been confusing to me and I’m probably asking something that has been explained but I either missed it or didn’t understand it. Apologies in advance if that is the case. Here goes:

The pacer has a receiver/transmitter type of device that it “connects to” periodically. This device is located within a short range of the pacer, so usually at someone’s bedside or wherever they spend the most time. Through this connection, information is sent to whoever is set to monitor it, such as a cardiology group. That information usually includes three types of items, one being simply acknowledgement that the pacer is working; another being a sample of what the latest pacer activity has been, such as “normal sinus rhythm”, “tachycardia”, etc; and the other informational item being that it will alert to any “event”, such as significant tachycardia, etc. (There is probably a parameter that is set by the clinician regarding this.)

Is this basically how it works? In that case, when the patient is away from the receiving/transmitting device, it won’t be able to receive or send any information from the pacer.

So, does a “sniffer* work like a substitute receiving/transmitting device? You would sort of have to know of the general location of the person with the pacer in order to get close enough to it?

 

[milkshakedonkey]

I quoted the last sentence.
What am I missing.

I missed that! Interesting. My apologies. I had just read the other article which makes it sound like it’s a regular weekly thing they do.

 

[Jade]

I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device

Maybe that's why Adult Protective Services business cards get left on front doors.


All imo

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?

We don’t know. It’s still listed for sale on their website.

 

[Chypre]

Mary Coleman
@Mary_reports
2h

For those asking about the scene involving a Range Rover, according to the Sheriff, there was no shooting or suicide involved in last night’s operations, as had been claimed by some.Says a traffic stop was made on a person of interest. The individual was cooperative and later released. On the number of people detained... he says anyone at the residence was technically "detained" since it is standard procedure to give investigators serving a warrant the freedom to conduct their search. He wasn't at scene and doesn't know exact number. But he does say no sign of Nancy was found at the residence. We’re of course still waiting for the FBI’s statement.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[MistyWaters]

They’re saying he was the person of interest. If the car was only sold in the past few days, as someone in this thread speculated (or sleuthed?) earlier, but the cops weren’t aware of that, it might be that the person of interest is now who may have been driving it before it was sold.

JMO

If LE is interested in a certain vehicle, wouldn’t registration be one of the first things they’d check out? If the vehicle was newly purchased, I’d think a very recent date on the registration would indicate that. In fact they’d likely have access to the entire life history of ownership.
JMO

 

[fridaybaker]

I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device

Been there…!

 

[Eli9]

I missed that! Interesting. My apologies. I had just read the other article which makes it sound like it’s a regular weekly thing they do.

Your article states the family hired them. No worries. I am always willing to walk things back if I am wrong also. I believe there was also a statement from the Sheriff IIRC but didn't have it handy.

ETA I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong about anything. Sorry.

 

[NewYork625]

Maybe that's why Adult Protective Services business cards get left on front doors.


All imo

She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

 

[VenturaJen]

Maybe something on a tether where applicable? IDK

The pacemaker has a very small battery operated transmitter looking for its own unique encrypted device/moniter, (usually close to the person I.e. phone) within a small location est. 5-30 ft. It is a specifically encrypted language that only “talks” to that specific pacemaker. Even though the pacemaker emits a low signal, I believe there is a way to track. NG’s personal unique encryption can be cloned to other devices (I,e, LE, FBI) and boosted beyond a mere 5-30 feet and reach almost 70’.

 

[MistyWaters]

We don’t know. It’s still listed for sale on their website.

How is it known it’s the same Range Rover on the car lot?

 

[penguinface]

I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?

I was more thinking that the dealership may have only sold it in the past few days to the new owner, who then could have ended up being the POI by driving the car that LE were looking for. The dealership has had the car on its books since before NG went missing, from the seems of things, and dropped the price right after her disappearance was discovered, so potentially indicates some desperation in wanting to shift it?

JMO and not 100% what I believe, just sharing thoughts.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

It’s got the dealer on the plate surrounds. Temporary plates underneath and exactly same colour, mags and brake calipers. Obviously can’t be 100% sure it’s the same car but I would say it is extremely likely. JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

Brian Entin is the MVP boots on the ground. I trust and like him. He got my attention with his outstanding, respectful and reliable coverage of the horrid Gabby Petito case. I was relieved when he started covering NG’s case. IMO

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[PCHS]

She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

I mean if she is of sound mind she is an adult entitled to make decisions that may not always be considered by others to be in her best interest, just like the rest of us do I presume (I know this is true of me and many I know) JMO

 

[Jade]

She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

I was referring to the card on Nancy Guthrie's door.


(In my state the officers or if she was transported medical staff would be the reporters, since she was a vulnerable elderly living by herself, to check on her.)

All imo

 

[Cedars]

If LE is interested in a certain vehicle, wouldn’t registration be one of the first things they’d check out? If the vehicle was newly purchased, I’d think a very recent date on the registration would indicate that. In fact they’d likely have access to the entire life history of ownership.
JMO

It's possible they only have a make and model, and anything dodgy/unverifiable about a vehicle like that would trigger a police operation.

If used in the crime, perps may have gone to great lengths to conceal their connection to the vehicle.

 

[Normancita]

I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…