• #29,701
I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device
Been there…!
 
  • #29,702
I missed that! Interesting. My apologies. I had just read the other article which makes it sound like it’s a regular weekly thing they do.
Your article states the family hired them. No worries. I am always willing to walk things back if I am wrong also. I believe there was also a statement from the Sheriff IIRC but didn't have it handy.

ETA I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong about anything. Sorry.
 
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  • #29,703
Maybe that's why Adult Protective Services business cards get left on front doors.


All imo
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.
 
  • #29,704
Maybe something on a tether where applicable? IDK
The pacemaker has a very small battery operated transmitter looking for its own unique encrypted device/moniter, (usually close to the person I.e. phone) within a small location est. 5-30 ft. It is a specifically encrypted language that only “talks” to that specific pacemaker. Even though the pacemaker emits a low signal, I believe there is a way to track. NG’s personal unique encryption can be cloned to other devices (I,e, LE, FBI) and boosted beyond a mere 5-30 feet and reach almost 70’.
 
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  • #29,706
I'm confused. Was it sold, or does the dealer still have it? If the dealer still has it, who did they originally acquire it from and when?
I was more thinking that the dealership may have only sold it in the past few days to the new owner, who then could have ended up being the POI by driving the car that LE were looking for. The dealership has had the car on its books since before NG went missing, from the seems of things, and dropped the price right after her disappearance was discovered, so potentially indicates some desperation in wanting to shift it?

JMO and not 100% what I believe, just sharing thoughts.
 
  • #29,707
It’s got the dealer on the plate surrounds. Temporary plates underneath and exactly same colour, mags and brake calipers. Obviously can’t be 100% sure it’s the same car but I would say it is extremely likely. JMO
 
  • #29,708
Brian Entin is the MVP boots on the ground. I trust and like him. He got my attention with his outstanding, respectful and reliable coverage of the horrid Gabby Petito case. I was relieved when he started covering NG’s case. IMO

 
  • #29,709
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.
I mean if she is of sound mind she is an adult entitled to make decisions that may not always be considered by others to be in her best interest, just like the rest of us do I presume (I know this is true of me and many I know) JMO
 
  • #29,710
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

I was referring to the card on Nancy Guthrie's door.


(In my state the officers or if she was transported medical staff would be the reporters, since she was a vulnerable elderly living by herself, to check on her.)

All imo
 
  • #29,711
If LE is interested in a certain vehicle, wouldn’t registration be one of the first things they’d check out? If the vehicle was newly purchased, I’d think a very recent date on the registration would indicate that. In fact they’d likely have access to the entire life history of ownership.
JMO
It's possible they only have a make and model, and anything dodgy/unverifiable about a vehicle like that would trigger a police operation.

If used in the crime, perps may have gone to great lengths to conceal their connection to the vehicle.
 
  • #29,712
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
 
  • #29,713
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
Probably soon since it appears most if not all reporters have signed off for the night
 
  • #29,714
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
If the rest of the investigation is anything to go by, then, to paraphrase a certain someone, it could be days, could be months, could be years..
 
  • #29,715
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
 
  • #29,716
It's possible they only have a make and model, and anything dodgy/unverifiable about a vehicle like that would trigger a police operation.

If used in the crime, perps may have gone to great lengths to conceal themselves.

I’m referring to the Range Rover towed from the Culver’s parking lot or the Range Rover on the sales lot, if ownership changed within the past few days. True though, who owns the vehicle isn’t necessarily the driver. Regardless we don’t know if it was the vehicle or the registered owner who LE was interested in pursuing.

“Officials have not publicly said who owns the SUV or why it was taken, including whether or not the activity is linked to the search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie.”
 
  • #29,717
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
I hope they are leaning toward something then. Not an encouraging statement.
 
  • #29,718
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
This makes me worried. I hope there are some solid leads from submitted tips to be followed. MOO
 
  • #29,719
I hope they are leaning toward something then. Not an encouraging statement.
From the ‘article’: continue to focus on other leads and new additional leads
 
  • #29,720
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
I think this makes the most sense to me
 

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