AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nycpizzaparty]

They think the car he was driving was used in the commission of the crime but apparently he just bought it 2 days ago or something

Interesting. Cars get a deep cleaning before they are sold usually.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I was wanted to try learn more about history of such crimes as we are seeing now in the Nancy Guthrie case and came across a segment from Inside Edition that covered the terrifying kidnapping cases of Delia Rollek, 74, and Heddy Braun, 88, in 2014 and 2003, respectively. Both amazing women not only shared words of support and strength to NG but also mentioned how they were targeted by perps who previously done work in their homes, knew they lived alone and likely targeted them for the potential financial gain they could yield by holding them for ransom. This did make me wonder if such similarities could be found in the case of NG, particularly if she was targeted in the case she was targeted by someone who, like many in Tucson, not only was aware of she was the mother of the acclaimed SG but was also quiet familiar with her home but not because they cased it but because they were part of a crew that did some type of infrastructural work on it recently? Maybe that previous work experience may explain which cameras and lights they were aware of and thus chose to disconnect or destroy, how they planned to make their entrance and exit into the home and how they knew beforehand about the plants they could use to block the Nest camera instead of bringing something of their own to do so beforehand.

It looks like surprisingly there is a lamp still standing and intact behind the front door of the house which may imply they were familiar enough with the home that they could presumably carry or drag NG through it without knocking over stuff but that is JMO and not trying to accuse or single any group or occupation out.

Just a thought.

Youngtstown man sentenced to prison for attack on West Seneca 74 year old

 

[SUNchips]

They think the car he was driving was used in the commission of the crime but apparently he just bought it 2 days ago or something

I keep seeing this being said in here but is there a source for it? Thanks!

 

[HanniBJeter]

Not who you tagged but hope this helps.

Nancy Guthrie: Pool Cleaners Show Up at Her House Amid Police Probe

12:39 PM PT -- Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos tells TMZ ... the Guthrie family requested the cleaners come by to maintain the pool.

www.tmz.com

"We reached out to the pool company .. they say they've never had a client at that address."

ETA I see I have shocked @BenjaminJAndersonAlly with this post. This is just clarification that a different pool service company was called to clean NG's pool rather than her usual contract.

Thank you so much!

 

[m00c0w]

The warrants the FBI assisted with in the Delphi case were state warrants issued by state judges.

RL Warrant

JMO

I don’t think I said otherwise? My point was that FBI themselves obtained the warrants for a state-level crime. If what you said was correct, they would not have the ability to enforce state-level crimes and therefore would not be able to seek a search warrant for state crimes. They are, and do. They can choose whether to take it state or federal as long as it’s a violent crime that falls under the IAVCA.

JMO

 

[LRinCA]

Can you please put a source up for this being a new company?
Thank you

I posted this earlier. It was from CNN. I'll go back and find my post.

 

[Cedars]

I keep seeing this being said in here but is there a source for it? Thanks!

No, I believe it is just the opinion of people interpreting the police actions...

JMO

 

[LRinCA]

Pool cleaning via CNN

They also addressed a pool maintenance crew that was seen at Guthrie’s home yesterday, saying it was “at the request of the Guthrie family.” The general manager of the pool company, Ken Kingan, told CNN it was the first time that the company had serviced Nancy Guthrie’s pool. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was present at the house during the service.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-news-updates-02-14-26

BBM

Just putting this here as I found it interesting. When we had an in-ground pool we used the same pool cleaners for years and it was always on the same day.

Here's my post from earlier

@tricia

 

[NewYork625]

I keep thinking about the white work truck shown parked in the driveway of Nancy's house in the aerial permit photos. I wonder who it belongs to- inspector, workman, someone else?

 

[aafromaa]

MOO….My thoughts on the pacemaker sniffer…
It is my understanding that the range is still impacted by things that impact a regular blue tooth phone connection - distance and walls, floors, ceilings, etc. It has a more powerful receiver but the pacemaker is still emitting only a low level signal. I would think that would make it more useful when searching outside than inside. But either way, I would think using one on a drone would allow more of a chance to pick up the signal than a low flying helicopter.

 

[mikenikes]

I keep seeing this being said in here but is there a source for it? Thanks!

Nope mostly because fbi have been extremely tight lipped. I was so confused and frustrated all day wondering how they had probable cause to send the SWAT team/massive police presence last night and then not have any arrests. But then when I found out that car was recently sold… it made more sense. And they still impounded the car and took it for evidence yet that house still wasn’t a crime scene this AM. It takes days an ex-fbi agent was saying today to fully examine an entire house for evidence. So clearly the fbi do not think the person who currently owns that car did this, but they are still interested in that car. They’re probably keeping that close to the vest to not tip off anyone so the real perp just thinks they’re way off track. Or, they are totally off and the car wasn’t part of the crime at all, then we are back at square one..

 

[VenturaJen]

I’m hoping it’s a bluff and that they have solid leads still. Maybe they’re trailing a suspect and trying to make them feel comfortable. We’ve certainly seen that technique before in other cases before an arrest. Perhaps it’s someone they’ve already interviewed but didn’t have the evidence to arrest them.

I just don’t think LE is resigned at this point at all. Not in this case, at

Yes I agree there is no GPS, but there is a language (specifically encrypted) only her pacemaker responds to. The range is very limited due to the pacemaker battery…but it can BE FOUND. If that encrypted language is duplicated into LE/FBI phones (replicating NG’s own monitoring devices) and the Bluetooth is boosted to say 50-70’…it could be helpful.

Maybe, but I think that is what “sniffer” means.

 

[VenturaJen]

MOO….My thoughts on the pacemaker sniffer…
It is my understanding that the range is still impacted by things that impact a regular blue tooth phone connection - distance and walls, floors, ceilings, etc. It has a more powerful receiver but the pacemaker is still emitting only a low level signal. I would think that would make it more useful when searching outside than inside. But either way, I would think using one on a drone would allow more of a chance to pick up the signal than a low flying helicopter.

 

[VenturaJen]

I like this idea. I was thinking replicating to LE or FBI phones, or grid searching. But any way to find NG is the goal.

 

[Cedars]

Nope mostly because fbi have been extremely tight lipped. I was so confused and frustrated all day wondering how they had probable cause to send the SWAT team/massive police presence last night and then not have any arrests. But then when I found out that car was recently sold… it made more sense. And they still impounded the car and took it for evidence yet that house still wasn’t a crime scene this AM. It takes days an ex-fbi agent was saying today to fully examine an entire house for evidence. So clearly the fbi do not think the person who currently owns that car did this, but they are still interested in that car. They’re probably keeping that close to the vest to not tip off anyone so the real perp just thinks they’re way off track. Or, they are totally off and the car wasn’t part of the crime at all, then we are back at square one..

I agree. IMO the Swat teams may have been sent just in case NG was being held in that home. Just to be sure not to mess up.

I think the driver/family may have solid alibis for the night she went missing...

JMO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Four hours ago:

Investigators leaning away from man whose home was searched overnight, sources say

Investigators say they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect, two sources familiar with the matter say.

www.nbcnews.com

Investigators say:

• they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
• away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
• and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.

I can’t recall following any past cases where LE has conducted multiple major SWAT operations only to dismiss the individuals as possible suspects shortly thereafter. I would imagine that in most cases LE end up chasing down dead-end leads during the course of an investigation, but I can’t think of any past cases (even high profile ones) where LE has mounted such huge (and visible) operations against POIs who are ultimately ruled out as suspects.

 

[marloweclover]

I am surprised by the lack of searching. There are three possibilities, as far as I know.

1) there is a body somewhere outdoors which has not attracted any attention in the usual ways, and it was transported and left without being noticed. I understand the terrain; I live somewhere not unlike Tucson. But even so, I could not guarantee that I could do such a thing with no hikers, no side by side atv or dirtbike users, etc catching me at some point in the act or discovering this shortly thereafter.

2) there is a body in a structure somewhere which has attracted no attention. This is doable imo, as seen in other cases, but requires some luck or some very specific circumstances.

3) there is a living 84 year old woman somewhere with a substantial reward associated with noticing her, and no one has noticed.

 

[SlimPickens]

I don’t think I said otherwise? My point was that FBI themselves obtained the warrants for a state-level crime. If what you said was correct, they would not have the ability to enforce state-level crimes and therefore would not be able to seek a search warrant for state crimes. They are, and do. They can choose whether to take it state or federal as long as it’s a violent crime that falls under the IAVCA.

JMO

This was a federal warrant, not a state warrant. What I said was that because this was a federal warrant ordered by a federal judge for a federal crime that pertains to a federal statute that this case now has federal jurisdiction. Which then means that the FBI leads this case by definition. Period. There is no ambiguity in that. No malicious usurpation. No games being played. No relevant IAVCA qualifiers.

It is via Constitutional fiat.

JMO.

 

[Cryptic]

"A $10 Walmart gun holster"​

Ten dollar gun holster, or say a $400 holster favored by SWAT officers.

Both could show an amateur criminal at work. A certain number of professional criminals never carry a weapon while "working" unless they truly need to.

In this case, the "work" was simply prep work for the kidnapping. There was no need to carry a weapon at all that night. If say, NG's grandson was home and turned on the porch light, he was still going to run away.

In the end, being caught trespassing, burglarizing etc. while armed is a far more serious police matter than doing the same while unarmed.

In the paraphrased words of one professional burglar interviewed on You Tube:
Q. Were you, or a member of your crew, ever armed while committing burglary?
A. Absolutely not! We were burglars, not home invaders. Very different crimes with very different sentences.

 

[SouthAussie]

Nope mostly because fbi have been extremely tight lipped. I was so confused and frustrated all day wondering how they had probable cause to send the SWAT team/massive police presence last night and then not have any arrests. But then when I found out that car was recently sold… it made more sense. And they still impounded the car and took it for evidence yet that house still wasn’t a crime scene this AM. It takes days an ex-fbi agent was saying today to fully examine an entire house for evidence. So clearly the fbi do not think the person who currently owns that car did this, but they are still interested in that car. They’re probably keeping that close to the vest to not tip off anyone so the real perp just thinks they’re way off track. Or, they are totally off and the car wasn’t part of the crime at all, then we are back at square one..

I think that LE has to count things out, as much as they have to count things in.

So they forensically check the vehicle. Then they can say in court that "we did not (or did) find evidence of Nancy being in the vehicle".

If this case ever gets to court, any good defence attorney will challenge the thoroughness of the investigation. They will likely be saying their client didn't do it, someone else did. So thoroughness along the way is crucial.

Everything that LE does must be done properly, because that will become crucial at court time.

imo