AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Maybe the perp set up the people in the house that was raided last night. Possibly knows the RR guy. Maybe bought a burner phone and reconned NG house at night with that then drove to RR guys house and dropped off the burner phone in a bush somewhere. Next day he picks it up and turns off the phone. He never brings his personal phone with him. Rinse and repeat several times.

That would be pretty cunning but if the ransom letter was written by the perp it would make sense. He’d be tech savvy enough to think of that. LE sees the ip address connection between the two homes and figures they have their suspect.

I mean they had to be sure they had strong evidence to go into that house and tow the RR. The only other thing I can think of is the RR bears a striking resemblance to the actual perp.

 

[SlimPickens]

Just your opinion. So we’re clear.

The congressionally passed law is equally clear on the matter. I’m not sure what is confusing. FBI obtaining a federal search warrant that we know nothing about does not in any way, by default, mean that the FBI has taken over an investigation. They have had federal jurisdiction since the Sheriff asked for assistance. They would not be able to function otherwise. I can only keep posting the same law that this all predicated on so many times.

Not my opinion. Literal law. 28 USC 530C.

Again, the Sheriff asked for assistance. The FBI assisted. In the course of that assistance, the FBI discovered that elements existed that make this crime a violation of a federal statute or statutes, which then supersedes state laws for similar crimes. That means, by definition, that federal jurisdiction now applies and now leads. A federal judge issuing a federal warrant explicitly confirms that.

The law you reference is no longer germane to this case (if it was applied), and the only way it would be again (if it was used) is if or when federal jurisdiction is surrendered because of, for example, the FBI upon further investigation could not confirm, to a prosecutable degree, one or more elements that established federal jurisdiction. They would then 'give it back' to the state in which the crime occurred for the state to move forward (if the state has a similar statute).

The FBI, if requested again, would then assist.

JMO.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I found this about the sniffer technology. I think it could work in this case, but they probably need a focused area. JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022893699978641733

Wait -- he says you have to be within 50 feet.

Is there some reason technically that this only works vertically?

Because with all the challenges of flying anything aerially that low, why not use the same sniffer device in a vehicle driving each street slowly? Wouldn't 50 feet from the road reach most buildings? Maybe not backyard sheds, I guess... MOO

 

[ab01]

At this point I really hope the unidentified DNA they have from inside NG residence is from the perpetrator.

I say that bc the longer this drags on I think it's their best piece of evidence and their best hope of solving this case.

The obvious leads of suspicious vehicle, random individuals that might fit the profile and close proximity seem to have all been dead ends.

The only other way I could entertain a possible connection is via video that has yet to be recovered via the other cameras on the property if those images even exist.

I think if this case is solved it's going to be via a lab. moo

 

[ilgirl]

Wait -- he says you have to be within 50 feet.

Is there some reason technically that this only works vertically?

Because with all the challenges of flyonh anything aerially that low, why not use the same sniffer device in a vehicle driving each street slowly? Wouldn't 50 feet from the road reach most buildings? Maybe not backyard sheds, I guess... MOO

Good questions. He doesn't say, but I wonder if searchers could even carry it along with a K-9 search or something like that. I hope the sheriff's department will do something like that (or all of the above if feasible).
Just my opinion.

 

[moonglow123]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation

“Fox News has learned that a task force in Tucson, Arizona, is awaiting forensic results from a late-night operation Friday, miles from Nancy Guthrie's home.”

I’m sure it’s been shared, but, cautiously optimistic. MOO, it does seem like a possibility that the people from last night are involved. Seems like a possibility that they could be close to an arrest, but just need the DNA or otherwise evidence to seal their case. Speculation only though.

 

[ArabianLover]

Just my opinion here, but maybe all of this appearance of confusion with LE is because they are completely stumped and have resorted to this “sniffer scanner” technology. They get what they perceive as a “hit” and they raid that house, vehicle, etc. This could explain why none of what they’re doing is making any sense.

 

[Bodhi]

I see people posting about cameras inside the house that the Guthrie children installed. I'm also seeing talk about those cameras being smashed.

Where is this info coming from because I can't find a MSM source or any other reliable source. Everything I see says there is no info about the state of the inside of the house.

Apologies if I missed it somewhere!

It's from the Radar Online, republished by AOL. No MSM has reported that NG had cameras inside her house; that her children installed cameras inside her house; or that any cameras were smashed. Even Radar Online is clear it is reporting what "insiders close to the case believe" and calls it a theory. It states upfront it's conjecture without elaborating what relationship to the victims or investigators makes any of its sources privy to inside information. With no way to assess the merit of the so-called insiders, IMO, their speculation is not worthy of consideration.

I don't want to repeat the link since it's been posted often and it's being discussed as presenting facts, so I will point you to Post 29,187 for the link.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Hard to imagine a woman her age who walks with a cane putting up much of a fight against the intruder(s), but I have wondered if she went out the back door only to be chased back in. It's fairly common for older people to have trouble sleeping at night.

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

It's from the Radar Online, republished by AOL. No MSM has reported that NG had cameras inside her house; that her children installed cameras inside her house; or that any cameras were smashed. Even Radar Online is clear it is reporting what "insiders close to the case believe" and calls it a theory. It states upfront it's conjecture without elaborating what relationship to the victims or investigators makes any of its sources privy to inside information. With no way to assess the merit of the so-called insiders, IMO, their speculation is not worthy of consideration.

I don't want to repeat the link since it's been posted often and it's being discussed as presenting facts, so I will point you to Post 29,187 for the link.

However, the Sheriff did say in the Ed Lavandera interview posted earlier, that the doorbell cam was not the only camera at the house and that attempts were underway to extract images from that camera or cameras. He didn't specifically say whether those camera(s) were interior or exterior. MOO

 

[NewYork625]

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

I wondered if, while the intruder was at the front door, he could see Nancy through a window going around toward the back door to try to get away, and he then ran around the house to catch her. Perhaps she might have seen him coming and decided to go back inside, or to not exit that door. If I remember correctly, and I may be wrong, but I thought in the beginning the sheriff had said that the back door (or one of the doors) had evidence of a forced entry, and also had been left open. Perhaps the intruder, once he arrived at the back door, was angry that he still couldn't get to Nancy and forced that door open, finally catching Nancy and carrying her or forcing her out the front door, which after gaining entry into the house through the back door, he could have unlocked from the inside.

 

[Chili Fries]

10 days ago, mainstream media outlets widely reported that there had been a forced entry into Nancy's house. Then the sheriff said during a press conference that law enforcement wasn't going to discuss whether there was a forced entry or not.

So the kidnappers could have forced their way into the house and that happening was reported by multiple news outlets.

 

[auburnmomof2]

I found this about the sniffer technology. I think it could work in this case, but they probably need a focused area. JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022893699978641733

Could they use a drone for this case? The comments on your link were asking about that and I'm curious

 

[Kemug]

Constantly putting his foot in his mouth.

He's probably a good man, lovely husband and father, etc, but probably not the best spokesperson for anything. Just saying. I wouldn't be either.

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[penguinface]

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

If there was an accomplice inside and it was someone NG knew, I don’t think the doorcam guy would have been masked, armed and tooled up the way he was, he’d have been just dressed normally and introduced as a friend/helper or something.

JMO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

10 days ago, mainstream media outlets widely reported that there had been a forced entry into Nancy's house. Then the sheriff said during a press conference that law enforcement wasn't going to discuss whether there was a forced entry or not.

So the kidnappers could have forced their way into the house and that happening was reported by multiple news outlets.

And the front door only appeared visually to not have been forced, but no official report has said either way AFAIK.

Maybe it was but there was not much visible damage.

Or maybe there was a forced entry on a different door that we haven't seen visually. MOO

 

[Greenra219]

We had a disappearance/crime here in the UK about a decade ago that involved a member of staff at a bicycle store using his key to open up late at night and “borrow” an “untraceable” (so he thought..) bike to ride around the centre of town as a lookout/dropoff guy (it remained unproven as to his actual role). I don’t 100% think what’s happened here is a car version of the same kind of thing, but equally, I think it’s at least a possibility.

Agreed. Anyone working at dealership would’ve had access to keys. Throw a dealer plate on and you’re ready to go.
If they’re getting vehicle ready for sale then you have mechanics, detailers, porters and others working to get in ready.

 

[Bluewing3102]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

 

[Kemug]

Wearing two masks is quite common for burglars . One like a tight ski mask / snood type often worn under a motorcycle helmet and the other a woollen balaclava. It keeps the balaclava in place to prevent slipping over the eyes and or the wool irritating the face

When the balaclava is removed ,the ski type mask remains in place until the perp is well clear as it covers things like hair colour and style and can distort the shape of the face

The feature I do notice is the shape of perps nose . When looking at the eye holes you can see the perp has a wide bridge and it's more prominent on the left side . His nose is not in a ski slope fashion but rather like a boxers nose

So I wonder was it previously broken .

The other feature I notice is even if a moustache is present he doesn't have a pronounced philtrum

If you observe the finger grip over the flowers you will see his real fingers are also narrow jmo

Thanks for the tips!