AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bodhi]

I see people posting about cameras inside the house that the Guthrie children installed. I'm also seeing talk about those cameras being smashed.

Where is this info coming from because I can't find a MSM source or any other reliable source. Everything I see says there is no info about the state of the inside of the house.

Apologies if I missed it somewhere!

It's from the Radar Online, republished by AOL. No MSM has reported that NG had cameras inside her house; that her children installed cameras inside her house; or that any cameras were smashed. Even Radar Online is clear it is reporting what "insiders close to the case believe" and calls it a theory. It states upfront it's conjecture without elaborating what relationship to the victims or investigators makes any of its sources privy to inside information. With no way to assess the merit of the so-called insiders, IMO, their speculation is not worthy of consideration.

I don't want to repeat the link since it's been posted often and it's being discussed as presenting facts, so I will point you to Post 29,187 for the link.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Hard to imagine a woman her age who walks with a cane putting up much of a fight against the intruder(s), but I have wondered if she went out the back door only to be chased back in. It's fairly common for older people to have trouble sleeping at night.

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

It's from the Radar Online, republished by AOL. No MSM has reported that NG had cameras inside her house; that her children installed cameras inside her house; or that any cameras were smashed. Even Radar Online is clear it is reporting what "insiders close to the case believe" and calls it a theory. It states upfront it's conjecture without elaborating what relationship to the victims or investigators makes any of its sources privy to inside information. With no way to assess the merit of the so-called insiders, IMO, their speculation is not worthy of consideration.

I don't want to repeat the link since it's been posted often and it's being discussed as presenting facts, so I will point you to Post 29,187 for the link.

However, the Sheriff did say in the Ed Lavandera interview posted earlier, that the doorbell cam was not the only camera at the house and that attempts were underway to extract images from that camera or cameras. He didn't specifically say whether those camera(s) were interior or exterior. MOO

 

[NewYork625]

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

I wondered if, while the intruder was at the front door, he could see Nancy through a window going around toward the back door to try to get away, and he then ran around the house to catch her. Perhaps she might have seen him coming and decided to go back inside, or to not exit that door. If I remember correctly, and I may be wrong, but I thought in the beginning the sheriff had said that the back door (or one of the doors) had evidence of a forced entry, and also had been left open. Perhaps the intruder, once he arrived at the back door, was angry that he still couldn't get to Nancy and forced that door open, finally catching Nancy and carrying her or forcing her out the front door, which after gaining entry into the house through the back door, he could have unlocked from the inside.

 

[Chili Fries]

10 days ago, mainstream media outlets widely reported that there had been a forced entry into Nancy's house. Then the sheriff said during a press conference that law enforcement wasn't going to discuss whether there was a forced entry or not.

So the kidnappers could have forced their way into the house and that happening was reported by multiple news outlets.

 

[auburnmomof2]

I found this about the sniffer technology. I think it could work in this case, but they probably need a focused area. JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022893699978641733

Could they use a drone for this case? The comments on your link were asking about that and I'm curious

 

[Kemug]

Constantly putting his foot in his mouth.

He's probably a good man, lovely husband and father, etc, but probably not the best spokesperson for anything. Just saying. I wouldn't be either.

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[penguinface]

Agreed.

My current theory is that in addition to door cam guy, someone else was involved who entered the house from a different door than the front. That person may have been familiar with the house and NG may have known the person and not initially been too alarmed, beyond the startle of being woken at 2am (maybe they had a compelling emergency story which she trusted at least initially).

My speculation only, based on my impression that the front door seems to not have had a forced entry. MOO

If there was an accomplice inside and it was someone NG knew, I don’t think the doorcam guy would have been masked, armed and tooled up the way he was, he’d have been just dressed normally and introduced as a friend/helper or something.

JMO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

10 days ago, mainstream media outlets widely reported that there had been a forced entry into Nancy's house. Then the sheriff said during a press conference that law enforcement wasn't going to discuss whether there was a forced entry or not.

So the kidnappers could have forced their way into the house and that happening was reported by multiple news outlets.

And the front door only appeared visually to not have been forced, but no official report has said either way AFAIK.

Maybe it was but there was not much visible damage.

Or maybe there was a forced entry on a different door that we haven't seen visually. MOO

 

[Greenra219]

We had a disappearance/crime here in the UK about a decade ago that involved a member of staff at a bicycle store using his key to open up late at night and “borrow” an “untraceable” (so he thought..) bike to ride around the centre of town as a lookout/dropoff guy (it remained unproven as to his actual role). I don’t 100% think what’s happened here is a car version of the same kind of thing, but equally, I think it’s at least a possibility.

Agreed. Anyone working at dealership would’ve had access to keys. Throw a dealer plate on and you’re ready to go.
If they’re getting vehicle ready for sale then you have mechanics, detailers, porters and others working to get in ready.

 

[Bluewing3102]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

 

[Kemug]

Wearing two masks is quite common for burglars . One like a tight ski mask / snood type often worn under a motorcycle helmet and the other a woollen balaclava. It keeps the balaclava in place to prevent slipping over the eyes and or the wool irritating the face

When the balaclava is removed ,the ski type mask remains in place until the perp is well clear as it covers things like hair colour and style and can distort the shape of the face

The feature I do notice is the shape of perps nose . When looking at the eye holes you can see the perp has a wide bridge and it's more prominent on the left side . His nose is not in a ski slope fashion but rather like a boxers nose

So I wonder was it previously broken .

The other feature I notice is even if a moustache is present he doesn't have a pronounced philtrum

If you observe the finger grip over the flowers you will see his real fingers are also narrow jmo

Thanks for the tips!

 

[m00c0w]

Again, the Sheriff asked for assistance. The FBI assisted. In the course of that assistance, the FBI discovered that elements existed that make this crime a violation of a federal statute or statutes, which then supersedes state laws for similar crimes. That means, by definition, that federal jurisdiction now applies and now leads. A federal judge issuing a federal warrant explicitly confirms that.

The law you reference is no longer germane to this case (if it was applied), and the only way it would be again (if it was used) is if or when federal jurisdiction is surrendered because of, for example, the FBI upon further investigation could not confirm, to a prosecutable degree, one or more elements that established federal jurisdiction. They would then 'give it back' to the state in which the crime occurred for the state to move forward (if the state has a similar statute).

The FBI, if requested again, would then assist.

JMO.

This logic is inherently flawed. A simpler example:

If these guys were involved in the ransom scheme, for instance, the FBI would have all sorts of authority and jurisdiction whether requested or not. They would be able to get a federal warrant for whatever involving that. Them doing so would not mean that Pima county is no longer leading the kidnapping investigation. It would not mean anything other than the FBI got a federal warrant for… something that is unclear.

We are in that situation now. We have no idea what was in the warrant or what crimes were alleged in it. It is completely premature to claim that the investigation is now being led by FBI.

And all of that is aside from the FBI already having federal jurisdiction in the first place.

JMO

 

[LRinCA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022897478245261630

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

Welp. I guess it's better late than never?

 

[jeff2034]

Just my opinion here, but maybe all of this appearance of confusion with LE is because they are completely stumped and have resorted to this “sniffer scanner” technology. They get what they perceive as a “hit” and they raid that house, vehicle, etc. This could explain why none of what they’re doing is making any sense.

I agree that if the "sniffer scanner" technology is real and is being used by LE to try and find NG, this information should not have made the news. Not to be macabre, but won't this knowledge cause the perp or perps to "extract" the pacemaker and destroy it? This could be risky to the perps depending on where the body was and perhaps this is just a ruse by LE as others have said to try and get the perps to go to the body (assuming it is outside somewhere) and perform the "surgery". If the bosy is local, this would be very risky given the heightened awareness and surveillance of the area. It's strange to me though how everyone (and LE) are assuming that the body is local. It could be hundreds of miles away which would make this sniffer scanner technology fruitless if it exists at all. And assuming the body is located far away from Tucson, it would also be much less risky for the perps to extract the pacemaker if they were inclined to do so. But if the body is inside and with the perps, then extracting the pacemaker and destroying it would not be difficult and would effectively prevent this method of detection.

 

[SUNchips]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022897478245261630

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

I knew the January 11th date was actually going to be important! I wonder who wrote the original Ring neighbors post saying that date which ended up being written off by LE.

Also this lists “west” twice and lists two different roads (La Cholla and Roller Coaster, the latter being near AG and SIL’s house) and doesn’t say a road to the east.

 

[VenturaJen]

Just my opinion here, but maybe all of this appearance of confusion with LE is because they are completely stumped and have resorted to this “sniffer scanner” technology. They get what they perceive as a “hit” and they raid that house, vehicle, etc. This could explain why none of what they’re doing is making any sense.

I think and hope finding NG through her pacemaker is a good thought….and FBI technology is better than what we have available to everyday folk. Everything is worth a try. Hope

 

[VenturaJen]

Would that only work in an open environment or would that work if say she was in a housed/enclosed residence? Forgive my ignorance. TIA. MOO

Would that only work in an open environment or would that work if say she was in a housed/enclosed residence? Forgive my ignorance. TIA. MOO

I do not know the answer to that. Inside or outside the range is small and probably based on the Bluetooth strength capability on the drone or phone trying to find her pacemaker. The pacemaker only gives a small range signal. But, this line of thought is focused on something unique to NG…. and IMO worth the try.

 

[loves2readhistory]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022897478245261630

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla

I agree. It’s not conspiracy. The feds have good reason to think that car was involved, hence the massive police presence last night. And if you look elsewhere online you can figure out the dealership who sold it recently and who owns that dealership and I think based on that you will see the feds are probably very, very close. Explains why it has been said this may go international. Tracking down that car was extremely important. If true there are powerful wealthy people involved and this will probably take a long time to prosecute.

Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

Where would I be looking on line for info about the RR’s dealership then. If this is legitimate theory that supports impounding the car as a transfer vehicle. I am willing to be informed.