AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

My thoughts. someone wanted the will changed. May have initially tried in an amicable way earlier. Something went wrong. Lots of staging afterwards. Ransom not related, just opportunistic.

But would the staging include the masked man on cctv?

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned: when NG’s pacemaker stops reporting it may be due to the internet being disconnected. Often in neighborhoods like this, in well-built older homes there is no reliable cell service without WiFi. Older folks often have landlines for this reason. No WiFi no Bluetooth etc. — I don’t know the timing but Porch Guy may have thought doorbell should have been disconnected because WiFi was but it was hardwired. (Old-school) Hence his lack of preparedness. Just my speculation.

 

[Nikynoo]

I can think of a reason which though horrible and far fetched is, with what we know at present, still within the realms of possibility. Jmo

Stressing it is just a theory and relies on many assumptions. It is statistically unlikely. I really don't want to upset or offend anyone and for that reason I've hesitated for a long time to express these thoughts.

Premises/Assumptions to this theory:

*Ransom notes unrelated

* Evidence of crime scene inside the house. By that I mean signs of a possible struggle ( disturbed bedding, maybe some things knocked over). Afaik there is no public info regarding the state of the interior including NG's room.

* Perp came prepared and with intent to harm NG.

*Perp is dressed in such a way (per the door cam) for two reasons
a) to minimise shedding his DNA anywhere inside or outside the premises
b) to avoid being identified by cameras or night owl eye witnesses.

* NG's connection to SG is probably unrelated. Perp is motivated by his own inner drives.

This theory is that perp is one sick sob. Sick but calculated. The intent was SA. He carried that out, easily overpowering his victim. Weopen could have been used for compliance and as a show of power.

He took NG with him afterwards because he knows about dna. Leaving her would ultimately mean his eventual capture and with IGG being what it is, that would not be very long.

I don't believe this is true and I don't want to believe it. It's statistically very unlikely. Plus it requires the assumptions listed. But it offers an explanation for why a very sick but calculating and cautious perp would take NG from the house dead or alive.

Moo

I don’t believe that if an SA took place it would have been in the home. He would have needed to remove at least his gloves and perhaps other clothing to do so, plus, possibly body fluids leading to his dna being found. FWIW, I don’t believe (at the moment) that the stranger dna is related to this crime. Simply because I don’t think this is his first foray into breaking into other people’s property.

 

[turaj]

You are more charitable than me. I saw the comments as a mirror into the soul of the person who made them. The only thoughts he has is about himself. How dare he say he is exhausted,what about all the officers working for hours in the heat What about Nancy's family. I bet they haven't slept much .He did not look exhausted at the game he had time to attend.
How very unaware can someone be to say a missing 84 year old woman might not be found for months or years. Even if that could be the case, how absolutely callous to say that in public. Where is the hope and strength and message that he and his officers are doing everything they can do to bring Nancy back to her family as soon as they can.

I too found his comments frankly shocking. I am left wondering what the Guthrie family thinks when they hear him say those things.

 

[Nikynoo]

My thoughts. someone wanted the will changed. May have initially tried in an amicable way earlier. Something went wrong. Lots of staging afterwards. Ransom not related, just opportunistic.

From earlier posts it was established that there is a trust in place. I would take that to mean that any will being changed would also mean that the Trust needs to be changed. IMO, the longer this goes on, the less likely it is to do with money, especially if Nancy has not been found.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Savannah Guthrie 'considering leaving Today sow' as mom still missing
Savannah Guthrie 'considering leaving Today sow' as mom still missing

Sources have told NewsNation that the exhaustive and traumatizing search for Nancy has forced Savannah to reconsider her position in the public eye.

'This absolutely came out of the blue, and I think she’s really concerned that it was because of her job,' NewsNation's Paula Froelich reported, citing sources.

Froelich added that Savannah was reportedly 'a mess' and was worried that past segments featuring her mother made Nancy vulnerable.

 

[Silverstorm]

At the 10:53 mark CSI Sheryl Mccollum talks about the blood spatter patterns found in NG porch.

 

[Nikynoo]

I have a sincere question to ask @OldCop and @MassGuy, everyone else please feel free to respond too - If LE/FBI knows for a fact that a potential person (SIL) has been cleared by them, why not publicly announce it? Besides them having a reason why he hasn’t been cleared, would there be another reason why they wouldn’t share it? If so, what would the reason(s) be? TIA

Because it may affect any future prosecution?

 

[turaj]

No, I don’t believe so.

WEll either you believe that she got home or that blood was planted on the front porch. I think she got home.

 

[buffalogal]

Supposedly he sold the Land Rover to the guy who was pulled over at Culvers. Also has some really strange ties to Middle East. Also calls him self the accountant, I think?

I believe they're referring to this, not GPS

Brian Entin on X: "Investigators have used what is called a “signal sniffer.” It is a small device that was sent in and attached to the Sheriff’s helicopter. It can detect Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker signal. The helicopter has to stay low and move slowly for it to work." / X https://share.google/mxW2QD92ltQ5HRdBI

Couldn't that be done less expensively and more effectively (the slow, low flying) with a drone?

 

[Sadi]

Maybe it started as a home invasion and then once they saw who Nancy was related to (SG) by family pictures, etc they thought they could kidnap her and hold her for a bigger $$$ bitcoin ransom. This seems so unorganized to me, yet we have no arrests yet. Soon I think and hope.

JMO

Preplanned home invasion, yes, my opinion. I believe they are very familiar with Nancy and her home. I’m not a criminal and have no clue what their thought process is, but am curious to know how they would be acting right now? Glued to the TV watching the news etc.? Taking time off unexpectedly to get out of town? I sure hope someone who can recognize the Lantana man contacts LE soon and if they know of anyone else is/might be involved.

 

[Tortoise]

Good morning,
I keep asking myself why was Nancy removed from her home? Why not just leave her there? Was it because she could identify the suspect(s)? This is what I think, but trying to understand what would be other reasons.

Possibly -

- Perp(s) was trying to target empty homes for burglary,
- no response to doorbell alert (maybe Nancy didn't hear it in her sleep),
- thought removing doorbell camera would stop the phone alerts/recording,
- removed Nancy because she would call for help by phone or by going to a neighbor, before they could get far enough away from the house, and they had no idea how many phones were in the home.
- wore disguise because the perp probably has a criminal record, and knew the pre-camera removal video would be accessible, and in case homeowner remotely called the police before successful entry was made.
- waved the flowers to try to cover the camera tampering and make it appear as if foliage moving in wind caused the alert
- didn't kill her in the home to delay/hamper investigation, ballistics, DNA on cartridge casings etc

Speculation

 

[Love Never Fails]

When the sheriff said it might take years, it makes me wonder if he said it to throw off someone to think they’re not close to finding them, but instead they’re very close.

I don’t think that makes the family feel better with what they are left to “assume”. I hope you are correct though. That would be awesome to bring her home today.

 

[Forest_Wood]

To be clear, I did not state it as fact, and I did not say the FBI had altered the image.
I can't see anywhere that the Sheriff or FBI has shown that particular image at all.
I'll say it again. MY understanding is that whoever released that particular image, altered it.

This is exactly what Tricia has warned posters about. By you saying "your understanding ..." without providing a valid source is you spreading false rumors here and trying to justify your post with "your understanding". Also, you referencing "your understanding" back to others who have not provided sources is also jamming up this thread with wrong information and unnecessary reading/writing for those of us trying to get accurate information. Please stop this kind of posting because it's not permitted as per the TOS and inform yourself of what is permitted so we don't have to constantly deal with this kind of false information. Thank you.

 

[slowpoke]

To be clear, I did not state it as fact, and I did not say the FBI had altered the image.
I can't see anywhere that the Sheriff or FBI has shown that particular image at all.
I'll say it again. MY understanding is that whoever released that particular image, altered it.

FBI director Kash has the image of no backpack on on his X page.

Here’s a WS post with the link
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AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

 

[Sadi]

WEll either you believe that she got home or that blood was planted on the front porch. I think she got home.

You’re correct about the blood, but maybe she arrived home at another time than what has been shared regarding the garage door opening and closing. I have nothing to prove that, but it’s something to think about. MOO

 

[Love Never Fails]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned: when NG’s pacemaker stops reporting it may be due to the internet being disconnected. Often in neighborhoods like this, in well-built older homes there is no reliable cell service without WiFi. Older folks often have landlines for this reason. No WiFi no Bluetooth etc. — I don’t know the timing but Porch Guy may have thought doorbell should have been disconnected because WiFi was but it was hardwired. (Old-school) Hence his lack of preparedness. Just my speculation.

She likely had WiFi. It was reported on this thread that she was on facebook.

 

[wibbleflea]

It's interesting how the Sheriff described Nancy's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone at 2:28 a.m. He said "app" disconnects correct?

To disconnect a pacemaker app (such as Medtronic MyCareLink Heart, Abbott, or similar) from your phone, you should follow the specific unpairing procedures within the app to ensure data syncing stops properly. Because these apps are used for monitoring medical data, they often require deliberate steps to disconnect.

If someone deliberately disconnected her pacemaker app from her phone then someone had to have been accessing her phone to do that. No?

Discussed many, many times on this thread. @Fargo has provided personal experience.

Likely to be an alert from the attempt by the app to connect to the phone and download data. Usually happens daily. Usually in the early hours. Implication: the perp wasn’t necessarily in the house for all that time. Nancy could have been taken a bit earlier. The phone app failed to connect to the pacemaker, so she was gone by then.

More here, with a link.

 

[K9Enzo]

I don’t understand the fascination 120 seconds for the garage.

Do you have a garage? Time it. It takes ~15 seconds for a standard residential garage door to open. That gives NG a minute and 45 seconds to walk into the garage and hit the button to close it.

A minute and 45 seconds to walk a couple car lengths into the garage is an eternity. It would take a fully able person 5 seconds. There’s no reason to think NG couldn’t shuffle into the garage within the reported time. There’s nothing “cold” or suspicious about it. MOO

I’m bothered by it. When LE released the short duration of her garage door going up/down my stomach dropped. We know hours later she’s abducted from her home. So, yeah, this stands out to me.

NG is described as having mobility issues and "couldn't walk 50 yards by herself" being dropped off and making sure she’s safely in the house seems like it would take longer. I imagine she would require some stabilization to get out of the vehicle, let alone inside. The short window might suggest she got minimal assistance. Maybe she didn't need it. But, did she really make it from the car, through the garage, and into her home that quickly, garage door up and down, drive away, and it was Good Night Nancy? To *me* it appears like a hasty departure of the driver.

Maybe the garage door didn’t open until she was already out of the car and walking. This is assuming the driver didn’t pull into her garage for her to get out. Don’t know…

From an article: or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.

Nancy Guthrie’s Friends Refuse to Give Up Hope She’s Alive


She was dropped off by family members at her ranch-style home just outside Tucson, in the Catalina Foothills, just before 10 p.m. that night.

"We know that because we have the garage door open at approximately 9:48 p.m.," Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos previously said. "At 9:50 p.m., that garage door closes."

MSN

 

[penguinface]

You are correct he didn't state someone deliberately disconnected it I am just interested in how he described it as the "app" disconnected.
It may be how you state that Nancy just traveled a certain amount of distance away from her phone.

When I looked into it, it said to disconnect a pacemaker app often requires deliberate steps to disconnect because it is a medical app.

There might be a comma that he’s intending but that doesn’t get interpreted by media when writing it down. EG if the app throws up a notification saying “Pacemaker disconnected” when the pacemaker goes out of range, he might be meaning “The app disconnected, from her phone”/“The app from her phone disconnected”/The app disconnected from the pacemaker, from what we can see on her phone”

JMO