AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

I’m still stuck on SIL, but my primary reason is because he was the last person to see her. LE/SIL know when he arrived home and it would clear up the suspicion if he was publicly cleared, but there’s a reason why they haven’t. The searches at their home too, maybe only because Nancy was there Saturday night? Or other evidence we know nothing about? Would LE/FBI go through the trouble to search just to throw people off the track? I don’t think so.

He is still on the table but I don't think TC is lantana man. We also don't know how the door nest cam was disconnected or even how the pacemaker app was ultimately disconnected.

If either was done by Nancy's phone that would require an insider and/or they could have had Nancy's help disconnecting them via her phone.

 

[Sadi]

Neighbor Recalls Investigators Searching Home Next Door in Guthrie Disappearance
David Curl, a retired lawyer, said the woman who lived there was distraught and did not know why investigators were focusing on her home.

Neighbor Recalls Investigators Searching Home Next Door in Guthrie Disappearance

David Curl, a retired lawyer, said the woman who lived there was distraught and did not know why investigators were focusing on her home.

www.nytimes.com

I can’t access it due to the paywall.

 

[MistyWaters]

I have a sincere question to ask @OldCop and @MassGuy, everyone else please feel free to respond too - If LE/FBI knows for a fact that a potential person (SIL) has been cleared by them, why not publicly announce it? Besides them having a reason why he hasn’t been cleared, would there be another reason why they wouldn’t share it? If so, what would the reason(s) be? TIA

I notice a trend that police seem reluctant to announce anyone is “cleared” in any case. Maybe it’s because their job is to seek evidence on who committed a crime, not to find people innocent of it? Therefore legally they don’t have the right to clear anyone? That would be much like proving a negative, proving someone didn’t commit a crime.

The detectives involved in the Delphi case said other people are only considered ‘cleared’ once a suspect is arrested, charged and convicted. Makes sense to me.
JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Roughly 95% of the hundreds of thousands of cases filed in 2024 were believed to be runaways and only 1% were listed as abducted.

Often, the abductor is a parent who doesn't have legal guardianship over a child, the report said. It's even more rare for someone to be abducted by a stranger.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance spotlights other missing persons cases

The 84-year-old mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie was last seen on January 31 before she disappeared from her affluent neighborhood in Arizona.

www.1news.co.nz

 

[diggndeeperstill]

At the 10:53 mark CSI Sheryl Mccollum talks about the blood spatter patterns found in NG porch.

She sees a transfer print which would possibly indicate a hand on the ground.

 

[warp3dwing]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned: when NG’s pacemaker stops reporting it may be due to the internet being disconnected. Often in neighborhoods like this, in well-built older homes there is no reliable cell service without WiFi. Older folks often have landlines for this reason. No WiFi no Bluetooth etc. — I don’t know the timing but Porch Guy may have thought doorbell should have been disconnected because WiFi was but it was hardwired. (Old-school) Hence his lack of preparedness. Just my speculation.

Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are local connections. Wi-Fi connects a device to a router in the home, which can then connect to other networked devices and the internet (through wires or fiber optic cable).

The router requires power to work, and so does an internet modem. The doorbell model appears to be the wireless model (no visible wires sticking out of the house). So, for the video of the suspect to have been uploaded to Nest, it must have been connected to Wi-Fi and the internet during the recording or some time shortly afterward.

I could very well be missing something here, but to me, this implies neither the internet nor the power was cut, or cut indefinitely, unless Nancy had some sort of power backup.

 

[Sadi]

He is still on the table but I don't think TC is lantana man. We also don't know how the door nest cam was disconnected or even how the pacemaker app was ultimately disconnected.

If either was done by Nancy's phone that would require an insider and/or they could have had Nancy's help disconnecting them via her phone.

No, I don’t believe TC is the Lantana man, if I gave that impression, I apologize.

 

[Sadi]

dbm

Excellent explanation, thank you.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I think about this a lot too. 1) My first thought was that it was to take her to an atm to get money. I haven't heard anything about whether her accounts were accessed or not, but I'm assuming not or we probably would have heard something. Possibly this was the reason but something went wrong.

2) Then i thought the ransom bit was the reason. But if that was the case then why not show some proof of life and go after ransom immediately? I'm still thinking this is possibly the reason but not implemented as planned.

3) I also wondered if she was sadly murdered in her home and the perp knew who would likely be called to check on her in the morning and didn't want that person to have the trauma of finding her. Close insider.

4) Then there's a sick reasoning of someone who wanted time alone with her. But that's seems a low probability.

5) Also considered that taking Nancy was a payback for someone close to her having an unpaid debt of some sort. "If you don't pay up we'll take your mom/friend/etc." It's exceedingly cruel beyond measure to take her and leave the family in limbo as to where she is. Maybe that was the point.

Probably other options I'm missing. But I'm leaning toward #1 or #3.

MOO

I hadn't considered no. 5. That is in my opinion a really good point. JMO.

 

[Wsimm]

Apologies in advance… how exactly did DC find contact information for the Guthries? He texted one and called a different one for 9 seconds or minutes? So this random individual living in another state obtains what I would assume to be unpublished phone numbers/email addresses (?) for at least two separate relatives of NG and this is written off as a hoax because why? Idk at this point where or even if I saw it was due to info being wrong or something in the communications? I get that there are [link removed] opportunists but I also feel there may be some credence to these letters. I’m not convinced he isn’t involved.

The grandiose displays of power and force shown by LE and FBI looks like a military parade. Is that really how LE acts on a tip? I have to honest I don’t really like “this” FBI is involved because it really looks more like the showboating I’ve sadly become used to recently. Read that how you want. I think they already solved this and this poor family is just a pawn. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this sheriff, I think he walked into a hot mess. It really doesn’t make sense to me given the high profile nature of this crime that help from much higher up wasn’t involved on day one. I’m not LE but at my job when I encounter something I have not dealt with before I don’t hesitate to ask for help. How many violent kidnappings has he been involved in? It seemed obvious as soon as the family walked in. For that matter how many crime scenes has the department even seen? They have no idea how to process or secure one? This just doesn’t make sense. I’ve seen that the FBI has to be invited. This sheriff honestly didn’t think to himself, I’m in over my head here? The family themselves didn’t think that? I mean SG called the congressman so someone must have thought this seems a little bit bigger than what they’re used to there. When the public begins pointing out that hey, you should probably not let people walk around in there or hey, look at that blue shirt anybody see that laying there? It looks like the one she had on in the picture you are using to show her. I mean. Doesn’t it just seem almost intentional? People keep calling the porch guy the keystone kidnapper, who has evaded the world, and yet you have the keystone cops traipsing through an active crime scene. So every member of this PD is what? What would you call them? Literally anyone who has seen an episode of CSI knows you don’t walk through a crime scene. I read a comment saying this department is a defense attorneys dream. No kidding. I would expect a lot of individuals who were convicted based on evidence gathered by this PD to be released given their absolute lack of integrity. I’m being facetious but not really.

Sorry. I actually had a few questions hidden in my long rant. Any answers appreciated. Much like everyone else on here I’m going back at least 40 pages a day trying to catch up.

You believe LE has already solved this and is just parading about town? If that’s the case the abduction of NG is much bigger than any of us can imagine. IMO, I’ve felt this wasn’t “amateurish” from the 1st day the video of the suspect was released. I’ve kinda felt it was orchestrated to appear that way though. I also think that the Sheriff’s dept initial thought was that NG wandered off and they didn’t shift to an abduction sooner. In doing so I’m left to think LE didn’t handle the scene and evidence appropriately. That doormat left with the lantana still laying on it bothers me to no end. I’ve always felt this involved more than 1 suspect and I’ve leaned towards at least 3 with 2 of them at NG’s that night. I’m now feeling this involves more than 3. So far FBI has detained and released 5 individuals, when this is solved it will be very interesting if ANY of those released had a connection. I have to believe for NG’s sake and for the Guthrie family that the FBI will apprehend the persons involved.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I think it was their objective to remove her, which does indicate a kidnap for ransom motive but I suspect, sorry to say, that she succumbed to her shock, fear and medical issues shortly after they intruded. So, they dropped the ransom plan, and had to dispose of her. Then, other would-be ransomers jumped at the opportunity to make money out of the tragedy. JUST MY THOUGHTS

Also very likely. JMO

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

There might be a comma that he’s intending but that doesn’t get interpreted by media when writing it down. EG if the app throws up a notification saying “Pacemaker disconnected” when the pacemaker goes out of range, he might be meaning “The app disconnected, from her phone”.

JMO

Yeah, he may not be technical enough to have worded it accurately so it could mean the app has a notification that it has disconnected - we would need to know how often the app is trying to communicate for that timestamp to be meaningful. I am more inclined to think that it is the Bluetooth that they are referring to that has disconnected.

 

[MistyWaters]

Excellent explanation, thank you.

Thank you but I noticed I quoted the wrong post so I reposted it again a few comments later.

 

[shonyakay]

I've been trying to keep up but things are so fast moving.. Do we know with 100% certainty that Nancy made it home the night of January 31st?

Mostly circumstantially not definitively.

 

[Nikynoo]

At the 10:53 mark CSI Sheryl Mccollum talks about the blood spatter patterns found in NG porch.

I like this lady. She says on a later interview that this case is not about money, but revenge. Interesting take.

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[GlobeFireCandle]

I've been trying to keep up but things are so fast moving.. Do we know with 100% certainty that Nancy made it home the night of January 31st?

We don’t but I strongly believe that LE will know for sure based on her phone activity and other evidence that may not have been disclosed to us.

 

[nerosleuth]

Agreed. Anyone working at dealership would’ve had access to keys. Throw a dealer plate on and you’re ready to go.
If they’re getting vehicle ready for sale then you have mechanics, detailers, porters and others working to get in ready.

I thought they said it was a paper plate, like a temporary plate (registration) until the real one comes in?

A car dealer would put the dealer plate on a vehicle when a customer is test driving a vehicle before purchase.

When a vehicle is purchased at a car dealership by a customer, the vehicle driven off the lot would have a temporary plate.

However if a vehicle trade in is involved with the vehicle purchase, some states allow the owner to transfer the license plate from their old vehicle to their new purchased vehicle.

 

[Sadi]

Because it may affect any future prosecution?

That’s true, I’m just trying to think of all the reasons why.

 

[SMK777]

I can’t access it due to the paywall.

I'm sorry. I didn't know it had one.
I will try and edit in the article.

 

[Nikynoo]

To be clear, I did not state it as fact, and I did not say the FBI had altered the image.
I can't see anywhere that the Sheriff or FBI has shown that particular image at all.
I'll say it again. MY understanding is that whoever released that particular image, altered it.

It’s here under the FBI Directors twitter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279