AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoffaUnderground]

Former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, in a February 6 analysis, dismissed pure financial motives: "Savannah's salary is publicly known, and others earn more... I am not convinced it’s fully about money. I, in my gut, feel like this is someone that either had some kind of obsession with Savannah because of how high profile she is, and this was a way to potentially get to her. Or this is a person that has some kind of beef with Savannah because of whatever story she covered or whoever she interviewed." She emphasized stalking: "There’s no way this is a robbery gone wrong. You’re not going to bring the person with you. There’s no way this is random." Walder noted neighbors reported a suspicious van near the home days prior, hinting at reconnaissance.

Would think it is was for financial reasons with SG then the ransom letters would be sent to her team. Seems random to go to TMZ

 

[Van Helsing]

Forgive me if this video was already shared but I highlighted some things that are interesting.

In this interview Sheriff Nanos says they contacted the FBI at 8 or 9 in the morning (I'm assuming Monday morning) when they got done processing the scene.
They asked the FBI for some help with digital evidence.
They gave that evidence to the FBI and sent the rest of the evidence to a lab they have used for 30 to 40 years now.

In regards to the door nest cam footage;
He said, "I think we had them for about two hours and we submitted them to the media."

The gloves found were two miles away from Nancy's home.
The FBI asked him if they should send it to their lab Nanos said No let's send it where all of the other evidence is at so it would all be in one place.

About the claim a glove was found in the house - "Never was found a glove in that house."

About a white "truck" being seen in the area...
"Somebody is working, probably on a lead that came in. Oh, hey, this white truck was sitting in the area."
He said that is not the only vehicle they have been told about in the area that looked suspicious.
Btw, this is the first I have heard about a white truck. We have heard about neighbors seeing a white van.

About CP;
"There's a lot of things there that we looked at
So it's not just, oh, here's a delivery. Here's somebody driving in the area. There's a lot more to that and that, that built up for us, enough probable cause in our eyes and the judge's to say, I think we need a search warrant."
"We believe he was a delivery man he was in the area for a reason. That doesn't mean he is completely eliminated. What if, and the search warrant we're processing comes back and says Nancy's DNA was found in his home?" He reiterates that is not the case he is just explaining why they don't completely eliminate.

The specific date for January 11th footage was requested for a reason. He said he didn't know what the reason was but, "I know that they have a valid reason for that date."
He says they then expanded it when asking people for footage they may have.

He made it sound like LE wasn't really interested in the January 23rd ring cam of the man at the door.

What stands out to me is a lack of urgency.

 

[cady]

I tend to think so too. A trio of guys who have some criminal activity under their belts but aren't professional kidnappers or genius masterminds.

That has crossed my mind. Possible. jmo

 

[cait2007]

I wish AZ would let them hold detainees longer than 24 hours. That's not enough time to get any results back from the testing of the items seized! Arizona is one of only six jurisdictions that mandate this shortest timeline. The majority of states use a 48 hour limit and some states allow detaining a suspect up to 72 hours.

I’m sure they’re still being heavily surveilled after being detained if police believe they’re involved. Sometimes this actually plays into the favor of LE, because releasing them allows them to monitor them and see if they make a mistake or indirectly lead them to her.

 

[warp3dwing]

JMO, if one were to collect all of the theories, statements of supposed fact, and conclusions from all of the retired and former LE people (and similar) who have talked to various media outlets, they would end up with a list of conflicting and broad-ranging ideas no different from what we have in this thread here from our own amateur sleuths. Which I think says something about how much attention we should pay to experts in the media. I have no disrespect for the service these people have given to their community and country, and for the often deep experience they have. But at the end of the day, none of us, including them, actually know what happened.

It would actually be an interesting project to make a spreadsheet of all the professional opinions given by CSIs in media. Where do they align and where do they differ?

 

[cady]

I don’t believe so. Just they found some gloves that appear to match the ones worn by the offender, and there is DNA.

Some gloves, or A glove?

 

[BellaToothless]

I had been wondering if the pacemaker could still be transmitting a signal. I'm fairly certain the hospice facility or the funeral home disabled my mom's when she passed away. I'm holding on to hope for Nancy!
Just my opinion from personal experience

From a vet site in UK but also consistent with everything else I am reading.

"Pacemakers have a built-in battery that may last from 5 to over 10 years depending on usage."

Pacemaker Fact Sheet | Davies Veterinary Specialists

 

[Napoli]

FOR PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE SAYING IT WASNT A Kidnaping.....HERE YOU GO

Kidnapping is generally defined as taking a person against their will by force, threat, or deceit, often for ransom or to facilitate another crime, such as sexual assault or injury. Abduction, often considered a broader term, involves unlawfully taking a person—frequently a child—away from their guardian, sometimes without direct violence, such as through persuasion or fraud.

Exactly what what you call it? NG wasn't taken voluntarily, to attend a tea party. JMO MOO

 

[nerosleuth]

If Nancy had an alarm system that she armed at night things may have been different for the perp(s). Police could have gotten to the house in the time they were there. Did they know they didn’t have an alarm to deal with?

If they knew about the home security system, then they likely had been inside Nancy's home before. It could be home repair contractors or home health aides visitors.

Or someone who had been inside Nancy's home before could have told someone else that doesn't have a good reputation about the home visitation.

If a person never had been inside her home before or heard something about her home, it is possible for them to tell from the outside that someone has a home security system?

 

[Sadi]

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Cautiously optimistic. Hopefully this leads to the perp, or they can see if it connects to one of the individuals from Friday.

WTH? Searchers discarded their own gloves on the various places N’s home etc., why?? This doesn’t make any sense.

 

[loves2readhistory]

Agree , so what was the goal ? That is what needs to be figured out imo

IMO
w/o a ransom note left at the scene, there is really no way to “know” what the motive or goal is until LE has better idea of WHO did this…have suspects in custody probably.
Motive w/o some physical proof is ephemeral and different points of view might disagree about how to analyze aspects of the crime.
And trying to decide motive w/o evidence can just as often lead LE astray as point in right direction—IMO…
The Unabomber investigation was stalled for years because
Even when culprits are caught it can still be difficult to discern the real motive…especially when the motives really aren’t specific to the victims.

But don't they have to connect it to the crime? A person's DNA on a roadside glove doesn't really mean anything unless there is something also on the glove that links to the crime scene or NG, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible it's related but I would think DNA match on evidence in NG house is more likely to help. But no mention of that DNA testing...

and yes—a random glove found over a mile from NG’s house on a road there is no proof the culprits traveled doesn’t automatically connect it to the crime. But maybe it had NG’s DNA on it—
If the person who wore it has criminal record in CODIS then LE will probably try to locate the person and be questioned by LE MAYBE w/o a search warrant if s/he is willing to talk to police.
But I agree—I don’t think that would be a very helpful clue unless there is strong evidence to put those gloves ON the guy at NG’s front door.
I think the Range Rover is much stronger clue to the crime. Waiting to hear more about its ownership trail and location during dates in question.

 

[wtiger]

FOR PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE SAYING IT WASNT A Kidnaping.....HERE YOU GO

Kidnapping is generally defined as taking a person against their will by force, threat, or deceit, often for ransom or to facilitate another crime, such as sexual assault or injury. Abduction, often considered a broader term, involves unlawfully taking a person—frequently a child—away from their guardian, sometimes without direct violence, such as through persuasion or fraud.

Exactly what what you call it? NG wasn't taken voluntarily, to attend a tea party. JMO MOO

until we know where she is - i don't believe anyone can truly say this with any degree of certainty

 

[MassGuy]

Some gloves, or A glove?

It reads like one glove, but who knows.

 

[joe jones]

Removing NG from the home is a big deal. Physically it’s hard to do even for two people. And it’s risky. Even with vegetation, a car pulled up to the front door and leaving the driveway runs risk of being seen. Leads me to guess taking NG was always the plan, to be executed at all costs. jmo

I think he may have taken her to hide DNA, and I don't think he went there to take her, he surely wouldn't need that big backpack to break into a home, that to me says he wasn't intending to have to carry a victim plus the back pack looks heavy, you would have taken just the things you needed to get into the house knowing you were going to be removing/carrying a victim you would have taken little to nothing to ensure you could carry/remove her,

 

[loves2readhistory]

IMO
w/o a ransom note left at the scene, there is really no way to “know” what the motive or goal is until LE has better idea of WHO did this…have suspects in custody probably.
Motive w/o some physical proof is ephemeral and different points of view might disagree about how to analyze aspects of the crime.
And trying to decide motive w/o evidence can just as often lead LE astray as point in right direction—IMO…
The Unabomber investigation was stalled for years because
Even when culprits are caught it can still be difficult to discern the real motive…especially when the motives really aren’t specific to the victims.

and yes—a random glove found over a mile from NG’s house on a road there is no proof the culprits traveled doesn’t automatically connect it to the crime. But maybe it had NG’s DNA on it—
If the person who wore it has criminal record in CODIS then LE will probably try to locate the person and be questioned by LE MAYBE w/o a search warrant if s/he is willing to talk to police. And there is NO GUARANTEE there will be a CODIS hit on that DNA.

But I agree—I don’t think that would be a very helpful clue unless there is strong evidence to put those gloves ON the guy at NG’s front door.
I think the Range Rover is much stronger clue to the crime. Waiting to hear more about its ownership trail and location during dates in question.

I don’t know how to delete this post I didn’t intend to post

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I suppose if the give had DNA on it that matched a criminal in CoDIS, they could track down and interview that person to see if they could be involved.

LE is likely hoping that the DNA in the house and on the gloves will match somebody already on their radar who fits with other evidence that LE has, such as their vehicle, cell phone pings near NG's house on multiple occasions, serious and compelling tips they've received, somebody who might fit the profile they have or possibly somebody with a prior criminal history. MOO

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Agreed. Amazing how many criminals fall into this trap! The urge to commit the crime is so intense, that common sense is over ruled. It doesn’t enter their heads to buy items that can’t be traced, or at least spread out purchases, so it doesn’t look so intentional! JMO

Lest we not forget they can be purchased by anyone online & then picked up by anyone assigned OR shipped to any address, etc.

 

[cady]

Does anyone know if the mysterious DNA found at NG's was sent to the FLA Lab? If, so I wonder if FL lab tested for a match with the glove DNA. JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

Here’s my farfetched theory, as they say everyone has one.

I wonder if SG has ever been stalked by an obsessive, mentally impaired viewer, who began to think they had a relationship and she was talking directly to him through the TV? Then what? I don’t know, maybe he got upset for some reason and decided to harm her mom because he couldn’t get to her or maybe he thought taking her mom would either lead her to him or bring him closer to SG by ‘sharing NG’ together. Just guessing, it’s difficult to rationalize nonsensical thinking. Sadly NG didn’t survive long without her medication.

Somebody close to him, possibly a brother, was involved in the kidnapping, perhaps drove the getaway vehicle. After the fact, the stalker convinced that secondary person they had to destroy the video doorbell because they might’ve been seen. This was staged after NG had already been taken away.

All my speculation only.

 

[HoffaUnderground]

Some gloves, or A glove?

Reporting right now is saying "a glove that matches the gloves worn in the video"