AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cassie P]

And maybe fleeing the county.

Maybe contemplating how he can flip on the rest of the crime crew. Make a plea deal. The first to squeal gets the best deal.

 

[Tate123]

Not quite. They DID get a DNA profile from that glove that physically looks like the gloves in the surveillance video. They DID NOT enter that DNA profile into CODIS as yet.

and they narrowed it down to a male.

 

[BellaToothless]

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Are you suggesting a staged kidnapping or intended kidnap which somehow turned to murder?

I am suggesting that it is difficult to rule it out based on what we know. Having difficulty with the ransom notes and it being a primary motive due to who it was sent to and no known follow up besides the 1st 2, Harvey Levin (not a fan of his) saying it was very well written grammatically and layered ransom note. He's an editor. At a sketchy org but still an editor. IMO someone well educated wrote those notes. And if notes are not connected to ransom notes then is it primary kidnapping for ransom with no known other notes? Lack of effort re ransom keeps this option open. Then it goes to who stands to gain. Some we know. Some we may not.

 

[penguinface]

Thank you everyone for the garage door responses. To be clear, I was not questioning the two minute timeframe—though it does take my MIL more than two minutes to exit a car and get into the house from the garage—but rather the assumption that the door was even completely closed to begin with. It just seemed odd that he used the word “approximately” and if it could imply that they are not sure (as recorded by an app) when it was opened, that’s all.

I think another reason for using the word “approximately” (both here and more generally by LE in various cases,) might be that you don’t want a future case thrown out on a technicality, if the timekeeping of the garage door hardware was maybe a minute or so out from the actual, real world, “accurate as a Swiss watch” time.

JMO

 

[Fargo]

One of the worst case scenarios here would be if the DNA turns out to belong to NG with no perp DNA present

Unknown male profile. Timestamp: 00:25.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

There were 2 houses in the SWAT raid and both had a mother/son aspect. Interesting.

To be specific, the Rio Rico raid was a mother-in-law and son-in-law. Her son was involved by being home at the time but the POI was her son-in-law taken in the traffic stop. According to Brian Entin’s interview on NewsNation on YT. As I understand it.

 

[Eli9]

NOT understanding the garage door obsession. She might carry her clicker with her in her pocketbook and as she us being driven into the driveway by SIL, for example, the door goes up. Then she fumbles with pocketbook, leans over to kiss SIL goodbye and carefully gets out of car. Steadies herself with her cane and walks into the garage. She opens or unlocks her door that leads from inside the garage to the house then hits whatever it is she hits to close garage door. I believe Sherriff said time was approximate. She arrived home and entered alone , IMO and was confronted for the first time by Lantana Man at whatever the sheriff said ~ 148 ish or whenever the Nest camera stopped showing Lantana man.. AT SOME POINT, seconds is just nitpicking. IMHO. Nothing is absolute. 2 minutes vs 1 minute 30 seconds or 2 minutes 15 seconds is just not dipositive of ANYTHING, IMO. 2 minutes seems fine to me. JMO..MOO

I've often wondered if someone may have entered the garage and hid in her car. I have never used a garage door app. My questions were answered. Sorry if it sounded obsessed.

 

[rebel123]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned previously, but the 'rucksack', if this was a robbery, not initially a kidnapping, would be for carrying away stolen goods i.e. silver plates, candle stick holder etc.

 

[No it’s not]

Thank you everyone for the garage door responses. To be clear, I was not questioning the two minute timeframe—though it does take my MIL more than two minutes to exit a car and get into the house from the garage—but rather the assumption that the door was even completely closed to begin with. It just seemed odd that he used the word “approximately” and if it could imply that they are not sure (as recorded by an app) when it was opened, that’s all.

In general, “approximately” acknowledges the inherent limitations in collecting, analyzing, and reporting on criminal activity, allowing for a degree of margin for error. Important in court. Sometimes LE will also say “approximately”, if it’s just an estimate and not backed up by hard evidence of course. All IMO

Cheers,
Nin

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Reminds me of the Alex Murdaugh case where he tossed his wife's phone out the window, not realizing his car's GPS and phone data could track and time him

Have to shake your head sometimes at these smart folks.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I agree. If you have a body or hostage in your vehicle, you don’t want to be stopped by LE. You want to hide them as soon as possible. However, it also depends on your relationship to the victim. Do you want to revisit the site for some reason or do you want the victim to be as far away as possible so there would be little to no connection to you.
I used the road to Mt Lemon as an example in reply to the post by @Trino

That's a good point about how the suspect acts depends on their relationship with the victim. It makes sense that some people do want to revisit the site for some reason and others want to get the victim as far away as possible.

I thought the AI article was interesting about tendencies of where people place the bodies of people they have killed. And, once you raised the road to Mt Lemon as a possible place to get rid of a body, I thought that was a brilliant location.

Of course, as you said, all of this likely depends on the person's motives, relationship to the victim and how much they have thought about the best place to get rid of a body.

If NG was still a hostage, that's a different matter, but my fear is that she was killed. And, it's possible she wasn't intended to be killed and they hadn't thought ahead about what to do with a body.

MO

 

[penguinface]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned previously, but the 'rucksack', if this was a robbery, not initially a kidnapping, would be for carrying away stolen goods i.e. silver plates, candle stick holder etc.

You probably wouldn’t want it to be stuffed full before you started putting anything from the house in it though!

JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

They’re testing another glove? Where was the first glove found? I thought they said one wasn’t discovered inside the house? How do they know any of these belonged to the perp then? This is just getting more ridiculous.

I was confused about exactly what matched as well. It’s clarified what’s being tested is a glove found “near” (2 miles) G’s home which is visually similar to the one in the video.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-news-updates-02-15-26

“A glove found near missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie’s home appears to match those worn by a suspect recorded in doorbell camera footage outside her home the morning she disappeared, according to the FBI…….

….The one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video,” the FBI said in a statement today as the search for the grandmother entered its third week.

The FBI statement appears to indicate the suspected match is based on a visual comparison of the gloves rather than forensic testing. CNN has reached out to the FBI to clarify its statement.”

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Well somehow I missed this today. BBM

No arrests in Nancy Guthrie case after authorities execute search warrant

Live updates on the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie who disappeared from her Arizona home two weeks ago.

www.nbcnews.com

Investigators say they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect, two sources familiar with the matter say.

They're also leaning away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week, as a suspect, the sources said.

Investigators are also leaning away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.

Yes. Saw that this morning also. Honestly it feels like they’re not saying much at all here tbh. Very vague language.

 

[UK Girl]

I think it's a sobering reality than in 2026 with all our tracking and technology, people can just disappear - and even with the FBI and a global media presence, weeks can pass and there are seemingly no leads.
This is either really well planned or really lucky by/for the perps.
In the UK I think of cases such as Claudia Lawrence who has been missing since 2009 with few leads, presumed murdered, and serious questions about the policing.

to be fair that case has never had the resources this one has though imo

 

[Kapua]

Unknown male profile. Timestamp: 00:25.

"...and are awaiting quality control and official confirmation today before putting unknown profile into CODIS..."

 

[stmichael]

They’re testing another glove? Where was the first glove found? I thought they said one wasn’t discovered inside the house? How do they know any of these belonged to the perp then? This is just getting more ridiculous.

How do they know these gloves belonged to the perp? Reporters, including BE, had a box of the gloves that he opened to show viewers. It could be a reporter’s glove. It was found days later. Is another wrongful arrest imminent over these things? Will they end up arresting a reporter?

According to what is leaked/reported (and I don't know WHY they are leaking it???) it sounds very weak.

They literally seem to be implying that one of the gloves found on the roadside miles away that has DNA visually "appears" like the one on the low light inconclusive Nest cam footage. I mean we're talking about common non-distinguishable black work gloves.

Even if it hit on an unknown DNA sample from the house that just means a work glove that someone who worked on the house was found on the side of the road. Any work crew that say, re-coated her roof could share a box of the said gloves. They blow out of trucks with other contractor waste and end up on roadsides all the time.

And while the Nest cam footage places the masked man at the scene at roughly the same time they believe Nancy was (something, we don't know) all the footage shows was a masked man committing petty vandalism. That's it (open carry is legal in AZ, we don't even know if was a real firearm, we don't see him breaking in).

It's really a big reach based on the wording of the leak unless they have a lot more. And BTW Nanos actually downplayed this glove when the leaks of him sending the testing to FL and not Quantico came out. He was dismissive of "a bunch of gloves found on the side of the road."

"The one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video," the spokesperson said.

Nancy Guthrie latest: Task force awaits forensic results as search enters third week

Nancy Guthrie went missing two weeks ago after being kidnapped from her home in Tucson, Arizona. Authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

www.foxnews.com

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023121557502009842

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Or perhaps Google’s backend cloud storage ended up having motion alerts and snippets of footage going back further than just the weekend NG went missing, showing someone casing the joint on the 11th.

JMO

That's a good possibility that Google's backend cloud storage showed some footage on Jan 11th. They were very specific about January 11th. lt makes more sense that there is footage of somebody casing NG's house rather than NG or a neighbor being concerned about somebody since the neighbor or NG's adult children wouldn't necessarily remember the date of when they were concerned. JMO

 

[OldCop]

It's possible that the suspect may have thrown the gloves out of the car within 2 miles of NG's house had no idea that his DNA may have been on them. Maybe he thought there wasn't anything traceable on them and for some reason he wanted to get rid of them ASAP.

Interestingly enough, if he was in such a hurry to get rid of the gloves, perhaps he lived in the area and didn't want them in the car when he got home. And was holding NG in his home or NG had died and he got rid of NG around the same time. Makes no sense to me to be in such a hurry to get rid of his gloves if he has a body in the car. JMO

It is not uncommon for articles taken from a crime scene to be scattered along a roadway.
We have a picture of a suspect with a black glove on Nancy’s front porch on the night she disappeared.
You have a dilemma. What would you do in the immediate aftermath of the crime? If you are found with a black glove matching what is seen on the camera footage and it contains Nancy’s dna, you are likely in deep doo doo.
If you throw the glove out the window and it has Nancy’s dna, you have to be confident that you didn’t leave any trace evidence that would lead back to you.
Which would you pick?