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IT HAPPENS. Elizabeth Smart. That guy in Ohio who held those girls for years and impregnated them. . People who have kids of their own who keep them in a cage and go undetected for YEARS. That family that had like 11 kids or whatever and they were all emaciated and undernourished and no one knew those kids all lived in that house. Twisted people do twisted things. JMO
Very true. Those are some great examples I must admit that I had forgotten about.

I could wrap my head around it more if it were planned. It just threw me off when they made it seem like it was a burglary gone wrong. If it was planned - I get it. They at least figured some stuff out beforehand. Although deciding to take this elderly lady on the fly - is.... complicated although obviously not impossible.
With the way the world is today I am really not shocked by much.

Jmo.
 
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"And I wanted to say to whoever has her or knows where she is
that it's never too late,
and you're not lost or alone,
and it is never too late to do the right thing.

We are here and we believe,
and we believe in the essential goodness of every human being,
and it's never too late."

#bring her home.
Poor thing, she looks like she's aged several years over the past 2 weeks. I guess anyone would.
 
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If so, I did not know. I’ve been in the hospital and away from WS for some time. Perhaps the rules changed. I’ll watch for Tricia or another mod to verify. Pls accept my apologies if not approved. Thanks for letting me know.
I absolutely didn't mean to call you out, @imstilla.grandma - just wanted to make sure I didn't post from an unapproved source. I hope that whatever landed you in the hospital is now resolved positively. Sending good-health vibes your way.
 
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Savannah, I am so sorry. 💔
 
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This may seem off topic, but i'm asking for understanding of the theory going around about "burglary gone wrong" Can someone step me through what does a "burglary at 2am with a person at home going right" look like? How does that even work in a burglar's mind? How do you rummage through my jewelry box or open my safe? Do you wake me up, bind me first? Then, dig around my underwear drawer looking for something? I need to understand how a nighttime home invasion works to process how and where it could go wrong.
To provide some insight into how home burglaries are carried out you may want to read up on Joesph James DeAngelo, aka “The Golden State Killer. He would break in, tie and bind up the occupants (whom were sound asleep) sometimes raping the female as well as rummaging through draws etc.
At times he would even have a snack with food from their fridge.
There are several books, “I’ll be Gone in the Dark” details his home burglaries as well as other crimes in California.
 
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Her statement is more powerful than an army of professional investigators and smart internet sleuths, and more convicting than a thousand angry juries.

If you are reading this and you did this (or you know who did), and if you have a soul left to save (hint - you do), please bring healing and closure to this family and turn yourself in.

JMO.
 
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Not sure about this. It doesn’t seem like SG would make a decision about her future at this point but it’s possible.



“(NewsNation) — “Today” co-host Savannah Guthrie is weighing a permanent exit from the top-rated morning show as the frantic search for her mother, Nancy Guthrie, drags into its third week, sources tell NewsNation’s Paula Froelich.

Savannah Guthrie has been on leave as the FBI and authorities in Pima County, Arizona, pursue investigative leads into Nancy Guthrie’s Feb. 1 disappearance from her Tucson area home. It’s believed the 84-year-old grandmother was taken, and media outlets have received bitcoin ransom demands.

“This absolutely came out of the blue, and I think she’s really concerned that it was because of her job,” Froelich, NewsNation senior story editor, told “NewsNation Prime” on Saturday.


 
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NewsNation is probably the #1 news source posted on this thread. The senior correspondent is Brian Entin. It's fine.
I didn't know - I realized that I was confusing NewsNation and NewsMax. My brain needs a tune-up, obviously. :)
 
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Anyone else get the impression the Guthrie family is privately corresponding with one of the kidnapper or ransom note writers?
I don’t think so, but it’s a novel idea, something to think about. Like the FBI is helping to craft her Instagram statements? Very likely.
I think she and her Mom are very strong Christians and this is the way they likely think and talk.

JMO
 
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This statement is more powerful than an army of professional investigators and smart internet sleuths, and more convicting than a thousand angry juries.

If you are reading this and you did this (or you know who did), and if you have a soul left to save (hint - you do), please bring healing and closure to this family and turn yourself in.

JMO.
It sounds like she knows who she is speaking to. It feels so close that she could speak his/her name.
 
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This may seem off topic, but i'm asking for understanding of the theory going around about "burglary gone wrong" Can someone step me through what does a "burglary at 2am with a person at home going right" look like? How does that even work in a burglar's mind? How do you rummage through my jewelry box or open my safe? Do you wake me up, bind me first? Then, dig around my underwear drawer looking for something? I need to understand how a nighttime home invasion works to process how and where it could go wrong.
You're on the same page that I'm on. Only reason to rob somebody in the middle of the night is if you need them to tell you--likely at gunpoint--where their valuables are. Unless perpetrator had inside information that NG had expensive jewelry, a lot of cash or some very valuable items and perp didn't know where to look, it makes no sense to me to is rob somebody in the middle of the night when the homeowner is there. How could this burglary not go wrong? MOO
 
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Dbm
 
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Would she not have to be alive for blood to spill from her on the steps and walkway?
Yes, her heart would need to be beating for her to be bleeding and dripping blood. You are correct.
 
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IT HAPPENS. Elizabeth Smart. That guy in Ohio who held those girls for years and impregnated them. . People who have kids of their own who keep them in a cage and go undetected for YEARS. That family that had like 11 kids or whatever and they were all emaciated and undernourished and no one knew those kids all lived in that house. Twisted people do twisted things. JMO

Yes it happens. But those cases all involved younger more resilient victims.

I believe there is a distinction to suddenly on the spur to kidnap an 84 year old with a pacemaker who is dependent on medication. Just think of the stress burden enduring an abduction for an 84 year old cardiac compromised person vs. a young healthier person. It's not like holding an 18 year old captives and throwing them a happy meal a day. I would imagine she would be a great liability at this point they would want to cut loose.
 
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To provide some insight into how home burglaries are carried out you may want to read up on Joesph James DeAngelo, aka “The Golden State Killer. He would break in, tie and bind up the occupants (whom were sound asleep) sometimes raping the female as well as rummaging through draws etc.
At times he would even have a snack with food from their fridge.
There are several books, “I’ll be Gone in the Dark” details his home burglaries as well as other crimes in California.
Thanks, this will provide much needed context.
 
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It's a poster who believes Nancy was targeted because the perp was obsessed with Savannah.
Oh gotcha. I don't follow that same line of thinking, for what it's worth
 

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