AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

SG, IMO, is talking to the perp directly. This is what he craves! SG's attention. Undivided attention....he's been suffering from unrequited love from her for sooooo long! Think like a frustrated stalker who has the ultimate souvenir that keeps on giving. He has the mom of the object of his affection! Maybe he even sits and talks to NG. Asks for stories about SG. As an aside, the other day SG posted that video of her, her sister and NG from many years ago. That wasn't from just grieving, imo. That was something designed to appeal to the perp. Might even have been done at the perp's direction. Nancy may be alive. She's an insurance policy for the perp. ( SO HE FANTASIZES IN HIS TWISTED BRAIN) SG will continue to speak to him as long as he has NG. Some day he will release NG, perhaps. He will tell himself he is righteous and noble and returning NG to her family and SG will love him forever for that. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX! MOO

Believe you are right. Outside-the-box but it's the only theory that makes sense to me. Not committing this crime as part of a burglary, not doing it for the money (I'm still not convinced the ransom notes and this crime are connected) but doing it for SG's attention and for the relationship he gets to have with SG during this time. Quite outside-the-box and quite plausible. MOO

 

[BellaToothless]

But the heart is no longer pumping...

There are cases where a person can continue to bleed for a short time after death;

"Immediately after death, the blood is "unfixed" and will move to other body parts if the body's position is changed. After a few hours, the pooled blood becomes "fixed" and will not move."

So if she was put over Perps shoulder to take her out of the home and she had some trauma where blood was pooling (even no trauma as it naturally starts the pooling process with circulation gone) it might account for the blood on the porch (facing down or lowest point of her body gravity).

Source: Rigor Mortis and Other Postmortem Changes - burial, body, life, cause, time, person, human, Putrefaction

 

[BellaToothless]

You must have missed the photos of NG's house. Her driveway is large and the car was not in the video. If she was carried it was way longer than 30 feet.

The blood drops stopped at end of walkway beginning of edge of circular drive. A car could have been pulled up. Hence the need to take out the doorbell camera IMO.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Why are there so many photos of SG and NG but not NG and AG?

I've noticed that also. It's as if SG is starring in this horror film, alongside her mother... and the photos/videos we do see of AG, she is so quiet. MOO

ETA: I noticed this in older videos before this crime took place (when they were out for dinner as one example as SG visited her hometown). Perhaps AG is just a more introverted person altogether. I don't mean it as a negative, just an observation of very different personalities.

 

[gbowski]

There are cases where a person can continue to bleed for a short time after death;

"Immediately after death, the blood is "unfixed" and will move to other body parts if the body's position is changed. After a few hours, the pooled blood becomes "fixed" and will not move."

So if she was put over Perps shoulder to take her out of the home and she had some trauma where blood was pooling (even no trauma as it naturally starts the pooling process with circulation gone) it might account for the blood on the porch (facing down or lowest point of her body gravity).

Source: Rigor Mortis and Other Postmortem Changes - burial, body, life, cause, time, person, human, Putrefaction

I personally wonder if a strangulation could cause the same effect from bursting blood vessels, causing blood to drip from the mouth or nose, but not a complete mess of fluid left behind….just a thought

 

[tbgo]

Interesting. Do you or anyone know if blood thinners( pills) NG was on, would allow more blood to flow, even after passing?

BTW, my impression, the blood droplets we saw, front door to driveway, were small and scattered about 8” wide strip, all the way to driveway.

Very alarming, definitely related to crime, but Not really a life threatening appearance. We don’t know what it looked like inside ( worse blood).

She could have been roughed up, not deceased when taken. Ugh! Sorry…

JMO

It would be really interesting to know what was found inside the house, how much blood. I’m sure the inside of the house tells a story.

 

[Van Helsing]

Do you have an alternative theory as to how she was taken...

Just askin' not a disagreement fyi

I believe this indicates that more than one person was involved.

 

[SaraSmile]

I don't think it's likely but I do still think it's possible that the kidnapper(s) went to the wrong house and that could be complicating law enforcement's attempts to tie a potential perpetrator to Nancy.

I'm sure she's not the only older lady living alone in what is a wealthy area that probably attracts retirees.

I think NG was targeted, but What Motive?

Jmo

 

[Napoli]

I think NG was targeted, but What Motive?

Jmo

celebrity stalker...

 

[tbgo]

Are AG’s kids grown? Are they still going to school? I’m curious if those people we saw taking stuff out of the house were taking stuff out for them. The entire thing must be a nightmare.

 

[SRWCF]

a burglary gone wrong with a full backpack? where was he going to put the stuff he robbed? was there actually anything missing minus NG?

hard time believing this one, unfortunately.

would love to be wrong though.

Right?!? And when the perp at NG's door was searching for something around the porch and grabbed some shrubbery to either cover the Nest camera lens OR use it to pry the camera off its mount (as someone here pointed out there were pieces of the shrub behind the mount). This definitely doesn't scream as someone coming prepared for a robbery.

 

[SlimPickens]

I missed this earlier!
We can now confirm through an inside source investigators believe Nancy Guthrie abduction was intended burglary (unlawful entry with the intent to commit a felony) and DNA evidence is currently being tested from the Range Rover that was seen being towed away Friday.

I think intended burglary is fairly obvious though, and it follows that FBI is processing DNA from a RR they towed/impounded. I feel like this is mere fodder and semantics for an insatiable, impatient media/public than it is a scoop that isn't otherwise obvious to surmise.

JMO.

 

[SRWCF]

celebrity stalker...

But wouldn't you assume stalking to be sexually motivated? If so, the perp would have gone directly after SG herself.

 

[Orion96007]

Not at all. I've done it for great distances and I'm only 180 lbs myself. You don't need strength when you have leverage and your core and legs are doing the work. If there was a car waiting (and I think there was) it's only a matter of about 20-30 ft, if that. This position also perfectly accounts for the undisturbed blood pattern. IMO

How to Do a Fireman Carry: Step-by-Step Instructions

Keep yourself and others safe in emergencies with this guideThe Fireman's Carry technique used to be a common way for firefighters to carry someone from danger, but they no longer use it because it exposes the victim's airway to smoke....

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[I agree with you, and out of curiosity I did a simple google search of "What professions are taught how to carry a lifeless body over shoulder?", and I am not sure of the RULES about posting this type of response but hoping I do not offend anyone or get slapped down for posting it... I am TRYING to just offer my own thoughts.... and the response was:

Several professions are trained in the

Fireman’s Carry (or Firefighter’s Carry), a specialized technique used to transport an unconscious or "lifeless" person over the shoulders. This method is preferred for moving a casualty over long distances because it distributes weight evenly across the rescuer's shoulders.

Primary Professions Using This Technique

• Military Personnel: Soldiers are extensively trained in the fireman's carry to evacuate wounded comrades from combat zones. It is specifically included in the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test as part of the "Maneuver Under Fire" component.
• Firefighters: Historically the origin of the technique, firefighters are trained in this carry to move victims out of dangerous environments. However, modern firefighting often prioritizes dragging techniques to keep the victim closer to the ground, where the air is cooler and clearer.
• Lifeguards: Lifeguards may be trained in this method for transporting an unconscious victim across land (such as a beach) to a safe area for medical treatment.
• Police Officers: Law enforcement training often includes the fireman's carry for emergency rescue scenarios, such as moving an injured officer or civilian during active threats.
• First Responders (CERT/EMTs): Members of Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) and some EMTs are taught the technique as an option for single-rescuer evacuations.

Specialized & Non-Emergency Contexts

• Martial Artists and Wrestlers: The technique is a fundamental move in freestyle wrestling (known as Kata Guruma in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu) used to take down an opponent by lifting them over the shoulders.
• Professional Wrestlers: Many professional wrestlers use variations of the fireman's carry (e.g., the Attitude Adjustment or Samoan Drop) as a setup for offensive moves. ]

IMO, In my own curiosity just a thought that the perpetrator may have been one of these (Former or current military, trained in wrestling or martial arts, or wrestling)?? Please delete if not allowed.

 

[TheDinks]

It would be really interesting to know what was found inside the house, how much blood. I’m sure the inside of the house tells a story.

I definitely 'read' more into one of S Nanos' first statements than the words he used. I mean, he kinda misspoke when he said taken from her bed... but from that I assume that's how it looked. Also, he indicated (not in words) that something worrying was seen inside imo.

There's blood outside the front door so it stands to reason there's likely blood inside, imo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In a new statement shared with USA TODAY on Feb. 15, the FBI elaborated that "approximately 16 gloves" have been collected near the Guthrie house, most of which "were searchers' gloves that they discarded in various areas when they searched the vicinity."

But investigators have also recovered gloves that appear to "match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video" released last week showing a man at Nancy Guthrie's front door, according to the FBI. The gloves, found "in a field near the side of the road," were sent to a private lab, and the FBI received preliminary results but is "awaiting quality control and official confirmation today before putting unknown male profile into" its database.

Nancy Guthrie search recovers gloves appearing to match suspect's

More than two weeks have passed since Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy, was last seen, and the search remains underway as DNA tests are ongoing.

www.usatoday.com

 

[steff13]

But the heart is no longer pumping...

But there's still gravity.

 

[LAhiker]

a burglary gone wrong with a full backpack? where was he going to put the stuff he robbed? was there actually anything missing minus NG?

hard time believing this one, unfortunately.

would love to be wrong though.

The backpack could've contained sacks for loot. Or the intended loot could be small & portable, such as jewelry.

I do agree that we haven't heard that anything was missing. Though that might relate to the "gone wrong" part.

I too am wondering how they came to this conclusion, assuming this report is correct. We'll see.

JMO

 

[Mistermagoo]

I disagree that this is an infatuation for SG. I am not saying that her fame has nothing to do with this, it may have. Also, I believe more than 1 person is involved.

 

[Warwick7]