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Well, there was a bloody trail on the porch floor.....
Very true! I just think there would be more blood if you had a two inch opening near your heart. If it was removed, IMO it would have been done indoors. Has anyone heard of a blood trail inside the home? Wondering about details of the evidence found inside…
 
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I apologize for being lazy, but anything happen in the last 12hrs that’s noteworthy? thanks in advance
 
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*If* this was an intentional kidnapping— makes me wonder if the January 11 date, that LE is requesting footage for, was a potential casing by the perp or maybe NG told a neighbor about something suspicious she saw that evening?
 
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This is clearly not a robbery gone wrong. They are in my opinion and this is what I suspect is happening ;
- The Guthrie family are corresponding with the ‘one bitcoin’ ransom note writers.
That guy is passing along information and ‘softening it’.
Authorities are putting out this information as fact to keep him talking.
Without proof,I don’t think j it was either a robbery gone wrong or sadly it is unlikely Nancy is still alive.
Thank you for this post. It makes a lot of sense. Hopefully, the family will learn where their mom's body is. It's all so very sad.
 
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Why are there so many photos of SG and NG but not NG and AG?
One is famous, one is not. One has had pictures published, one has not released any to the public. IMO I don’t know if it’s anything more complex then that
 
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Martial Artists and Wrestlers: The technique is a fundamental move in freestyle wrestling (known as Kata Guruma in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu) used to take down an opponent by lifting them over the shoulders.
I hadn’t thought of that, but could see it as a strong option in this case.
 
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I apologize for being lazy, but anything happen in the last 12hrs that’s noteworthy? thank in advance
Not really. New video posted by SG.
 
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I read somewhere that "If burglars come by day, they want your stuff. If they come at night, they want you."
I don’t know if I necessarily agree with this but i think it can make sense for some situations
 
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We don't know that there aren't more photos of NG and AG; SG is who is making this such a big story, maybe those are the pictures the media is choosing to share.
Could be her sibs are more private. Could also be that SG is more comfortable posting all of these pictures of her Mom and her. The photos do tell a moving story of a close mother and daughter who enjoy spending time together.

SG is also a youngest daughter and they had quite a few years by themselves after her father died when she was 16. SG's older siblings had left home and SG and NG had and additional 2 years together when SG was in high school and then the 4 yrs when SG was at Univ of AZ in Tucson. JMO
 
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Very true! I just think there would be more blood if you had a two inch opening to your heart. If it was removed, IMO it would have been done indoors. Has anyone heard of a blood trail inside the home? Wondering about details of the evidence found inside…
We’d like to know, too! I don’t think the inside condition of NG’s house or BR were revealed yet.

JMO
 
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How can a missing mom be an infatuation?
I was replying to somebody that was sort of implying that NG was taken by somebody that basically wanted to get closer to SG.
 
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Not really.
You missed your chance to say yes it’s been solved lol. Wish that was the case. But seriously thanks for the update greatly appreciate it
 
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I apologize for being lazy, but anything happen in the last 12hrs that’s noteworthy? thank in advance
A glove was found 2 miles from NGs home. The glove is visually similar to the glove worn by the person on NGs porch in the video released by the FBI. The glove has male DNA on it. FBI is running it through Codis. No report yet. IMO

 
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There are cases where a person can continue to bleed for a short time after death;

"Immediately after death, the blood is "unfixed" and will move to other body parts if the body's position is changed. After a few hours, the pooled blood becomes "fixed" and will not move."

So if she was put over Perps shoulder to take her out of the home and she had some trauma where blood was pooling (even no trauma as it naturally starts the pooling process with circulation gone) it might account for the blood on the porch (facing down or lowest point of her body gravity).

Source: Rigor Mortis and Other Postmortem Changes - burial, body, life, cause, time, person, human, Putrefaction
Thank you. Great information.
 
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Is anyone else annoyed that searchers discarded their gloves on the ground instead of disposing them in a way that didn’t slow down the investigation? DNA techs had to test all those discarded gloves for clues.:confused:
 
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I apologize for being lazy, but anything happen in the last 12hrs that’s noteworthy? thank in advance
Agreed. I'm trying to figure out still if the videos of two diferrent men wearing backpacks are working together or random.
 
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Aren’t that what pockets are for?

MOO
I read in a post here that the other gloves were all supposedly discarded by searchers? I was SHOCKED. Yes, that’s what pockets are for. Search and Rescue folks don’t fling used gloves around AFAIK 🙄
 

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