AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[squeaky]

First time commenting, not sure if it was discussed before. I was listening to a compilation of the dispatch calls from the day NG was reported missing. I noticed during the call, they kept saying, the time she was last seen, was 1215, not 945pm, I wonder if that was a misquote?

Also the dispatcher called for DPS assistance, which maybe why the card was left near the door.

Here is an earlier post referencing dispatch calling for DPS

 

[Sillybilly]

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

 

[VegasGirl35]

Very big, if true. I’m wondering if the RR has been connected to a burglary ring and this is why they think the purpose was burglary. Maybe if it’s a ring, the RR would drop off someone to do the break-in then circle around to pick them up.
I’m still on the fence on whether this is burglary gone wrong or kidnapping.

I'm really curious as to how long the dealership had the RR in their inventory before selling it a few days ago.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

I agree with you, but potentially panic/realising who she was and the possibility of a ransom?

 

[cady]

I'm not sure when this person was there. If they showed up afterwards, why was the crime scene released so quickly?

I keep thinking that it may have been a horrible hoax but I think it was there before the abduction. Hopefully, LE has interviewed Elder Services.....................jmo

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Thanks. Another great insider look at the dept. Well spoken and level take by the Sgt.

96 detectives and 45 are Det.1s. Most experience inside the unit 3 years of homicide.
195 deputies on patrol. Of that 101 on probation (less than a year).

He also says he feels the rift with the FBI does come from 2016 when Nanos was investigated by the feds. And he think that investigation caused a lot of the "icy relationship we see today" and he says he thinks Nanos is using this case as a way to show up the FBI.

Sad, just truly sad. Using a family's grief and tragedy for your own benefit.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

What if, just hypothetically, her complaint might have been about response time from the Sheriff’s Department? Only hypothetical.

 

[Jazzy5980]

Money or Attention/Fame are really the only 2. And revenge.

DBM

 

[stmichael]

For those interested in the Nanos controversies that caused a lot of the recent dept. turnover and dynamic with the FBI:

Here is the federal lawsuit that Sgt. Cross filed against him:

https://foxapps.file.force.com/servlet/servlet.EmailAttachmentDownload?q=aQ144BdDnrnqBbrU4WZGdDc3Bny6LBMdM0iG71xBQi5F7OcFjMzmOKZj791zd0Mj6r%2Bw6Z%2Bo8kY6401Bwa%2Fgeg%3D%3D

Here is the lawsuit Lt. Heather Lappin filed against him:

https://foxapps.file.force.com/servlet/servlet.EmailAttachmentDownload?q=aQ144BdDnrnqBbrU4WZGdN2dmIjdE%2F2GL95BkENyqn%2FM1YReilQjxiu9HC4pHkIa3byqKXqBymbmb85Cgdt5yA%3D%3D

The Arizona Attorney General opened a criminal investigation into Nanos’ handling of an alleged sexual assault of a female deputy by a sergeant in December 2022. That state investigation followed the Pima County Board of Supervisors voting to request an independent investigation into Nanos’ conduct.


Article about the election investigation of Nanos by the Pima County Board of Supervisors:

Supervisors vote to request investigation of Sheriff Nanos over election controversy - AZ Luminaria

The Pima County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously Tuesday to request an independent investigation into whether Sheriff Chris Nanos committed criminal wrongdoing when he placed his political opponent and sheriff’s department employee on leave ahead of the election. “I was hoping [Nanos]...

azluminaria.org

The FBI investigated Ramos and the Pima County PD in 2016 for missing RICO funds.

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos, seeking reelection, has a trail of lawsuits - AZ Luminaria

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos’ political tenure has won him both community support and — amid mounting lawsuits over abuses and deaths in the jail he runs — calls for his resignation. After being appointed to the position in 2015, Nanos, a Democrat, ran the next year and lost to Republican...

azluminaria.org

Nanos Fires Back at the FBI - KGUN from 2016 - He later quipped that if the FBI was "having problems doing investigations … please, call us because we have real policemen here."

 

[CoolBeans]

If they are really closing in on someone, I feel like Savannah may be saying come forward now or give us a tip. I think they may be trying to persuade someone currently under some suspicion, or an associate to come forward.

There may be a clue that is what's happening. But I could be totally off base. Too many times we have had hopes and it's been nothing.

 

[txsleuth70]

I'm really curious as to how long the dealership had the RR in their inventory before selling it a few days ago.

Someone could run a Carfax and check. Used vehicles tend to show up again and be resold between dealers at several auctions until a retail sale is made on someone's lot so it's probably changed hands multiple times.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I was able to go back to some of the first news stories about this case...

I found a KOLD clip that shows the card was NOT there on the 3rd.


View attachment 645433

should be cued to around 0:50

Thanks for always keeping us on track Missy!

 

[cady]

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

I don't buy burglary either. As far as we know, the only thing removed from the house was Nancy. I think that was their objective. A would-be kidnapping, but she did not survive. All I can figure. jmo

 

[missy1974]

Here is an earlier post referencing dispatch calling for DPS

Ahhhh I wonder if we can find those dispatch calls now?

 

[PacoElFlaco]

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

Possible reasons a burglar would take her away:
They realized she was the mom of a celeb and decided on the spur of the moment to kidnap her for ransom.
They killed her and did not want to leave evidence of murder.
She recognized them and they did not want to kill her but did not know what else to do besides take her away.
Their DNA or perhaps a bullet on or in the body would have incriminated them.
Taking them to an ATM, but this does not seem to have happened here.

 

[buyerninety]

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Today at 12:50 AM

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

• Sillybilly

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I could see it happening if she grappled with the intruder
and intruders glove came off (even old ladies can have
sharp nails), the intruder/perp king-hit her several times,
then she's not moving but the intruder realizes his DNA
is now all on her upper body clothing/face... up she goes
onto his shoulders and away he goes to the street (and
presumably into some vehicle not too far away that he
intended to exit the area in).

 

[SUNchips]

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

The only reason I can think of is if she passed away or was gravely hurt during commission of the crime and they panicked. Other than that I’ve got nada.

 

[txsleuth70]

I think I saw where someone did that. Not sure if it would break rules to post it. People were leaving comments and questions on the car dealer's IG and they began responding btw. I hope the wrong person isn't being dragged into this.

Wasn't that through the VIN only? And didn't show previous owners, only current dealership (call it dealership Y) who just sold it on the 13th (to call it buyer Z) ? Title has not had time to transfer to buyer Z yet, so dealer Y still shows as owner most likely. Carfax would show who had it before then (dealerships & owners A through X).

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I don’t see that at all. I only see him place his fingers on the bottom of the doorbell as if to judge how well it is mounted. I see no tools in his hand at all.

don’t see that at all. I only see him place his fingers on the bottom of the doorbell as if to judge how well it is mounted. I see no tools in his hand at all.

This is what I see. It appears in his hand after he leans to the left of the screen @ 0:12 and IMO it is too thin and detached to be his fingers but I could be wrong. I also noticed that at 0:37 to the left a source of light appears to fall and then be steadied by someone or something without the perp intervening at all and at 0:27 something appears to strike at or scares the perp as he bends down to collect the flowers.

Also just my perception but between 0:17-0:20 there are two shadows casted on the floor, that of the perp’s and another one of someone with shoulder length hair and appears to be a woman.

Just my opinion and observations but I fully acknowledge I could be wrong.

 

[thefragile7393]

I think I saw where someone did that. Not sure if it would break rules to post it. People were leaving comments and questions on the car dealer's IG and they began responding btw. I hope the wrong person isn't being dragged into this.

Mmmph not a good idea to do all that IMO