AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

@jtfolden is trying to make the point that if the camera were really disconnected from the internet (in this case, via wi-fi), the footage that's stored locally in the Nest camera, ready for upload to Google's servers, is never uploaded. For it to be uploaded, it needs a connection. Even the FBI can't recover footage from Google's servers if that footage never left the camera. If the camera was disconnected, and footage recorded after the disconnection was recovered, the camera had to have reconnected at some point and uploaded the footage to Google's servers.

All I know is that it was explained that the footage was from residual data that took a great effort to piece together to recover.

If that nest cam footage was not from 2:12 a.m. then why did Harvey Levin say that LE confirmed that it was?

I have no problem believing the footage may have been captured at 1:47 a.m. instead of 2:12 a.m.
I originally believed that - until TMZ said LE confirmed otherwise.

I guess it is just one more thing that may or may not be the case in this case. Frustrating.

 

[slowpoke]

I may be wrong, but I got the impression that the glove they found with the dna in it matched the glove the perp was wearing, not that they had dna to compare it with.Just a match on the gloves maybe. Correct me if I am wrong. JMOO

Unclear, according to this: (bbm)

“Separately, forensic teams uncovered DNA at Guthrie’s home which authorities said earlier does not match her or anyone in her immediate circle. It’s not clear if this DNA is a match for the DNA found on the glove.”

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-news-updates-02-16-26?post-id=cmlonfpb400003b6p3rcty134

 

[SaraSmile]

An expert on genetic genealogy has said that DNA collected from Nancy Guthrie’s property will help law enforcement find the person responsible for the disappearance of the 84-year-old mother of Today show co-host Savannah Guthrie.

CeCe Moore, the chief genetic genealogist at Parabon Nanolabs, said investigators can use the DNA that was recovered in a process called Investigative Genetic Genealogy, or IGG. That involves uploading information to a genealogy database to look for possible relatives of the person whose DNA was found at the scene and thus, identify possible suspects.

Nancy Guthrie Update: Expert Highlights ‘More Significant’ DNA Find

CeCe Moore said police could use investigative genetic genealogy to track down the suspect responsible for Guthrie's abduction.

www.newsweek.com

2/16/2026

All JMO

Yes, I watched a Cece Moore re genetic genealogy last night, too. I’m so happy LE is likely going that route, and results are getting faster all the time( depends on what ethnic group perp originated from, Data bank varies in “ matches” close enough to be able to then be searched by genealogy family tree, select possible people, check Alibis).

JMZo

 

[SaraSmile]

Him, is mask guy, who in all his brilliance managed to get caught on the doorbell camera. This crime was very unsophisticated, hence an opportunist burglary gone wrong. As to how she could identify him...I believe they interacted in some capacity in the past such as a lawn maintenance guy, handyman or other service person. What she could identify is his voice.

If he worked for her, probably voice, stature and mannerisms.

JMO

 

[Gunther Toody]

All JMO

Yes, I watched a Cece Moore re genetic genealogy last night, too. I’m so happy LE is likely going that route, and results are getting faster all the time( depends on what ethnic group perp originated from, Data bank varies in “ matches” close enough to be able to then be searched by genealogy family tree, select possible people, check Alibis).

JMZo

CeCe Moore works with Parabon Labs, who have developed an algorithm that can actually put a face to DNA. It is remarkable technology.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

One of the risks to an investigation like this is – much of it has to be done behind the curtain, (and) it’s important that certain things don’t leak out. And under this kind of spotlight, that can become very difficult,” said Miller, who has worked in both local and federal law enforcement.

Media outlets have largely been cooperative so far, though. “Three different television outlets who received a series of purported ransom notes and demands – possibly real, possibly fake – have been disciplined about not revealing sensitive details about those documents,” Miller said.

Stories regarding possible tension between the Pima County Sheriff’s Office and the FBI, even if they are representative of the mood on the ground, can also be harmful to progress, he added.

“None of this is helpful to the atmosphere and progress of the investigation,” Miller said.

The 3 biggest challenges as the Nancy Guthrie case stretches into week 3

CNN, FBI, SAVANNAH GUTHRIE , INSTAGRAM, KOLD, Savannah Guthrie / Instagram By Elizabeth Hartfield, CNN (CNN) — It’s been 16 days since Nancy Guthrie was reported missing, and investigators working the case that has captivated the nation’s attention are encountering a unique mix of challenges...

abc17news.com

 

[Tortoise]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023432488350343456

New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.

And why isn't this individual in the know claiming the $100k reward money?

 

[cathathorse]

Why is it taking so long for the DNA to come back and why did the FBI put out a statement or brief media partners yesterday morning that they had received DNA results on 2/14 and CODIS search was expected within 24 hours? Wouldn't that mean they expected to be able to input into CODIS on 2/15? It is now 2/16... I'm wondering what will happen, if anything, today. I also don't know why they decided to share that information. To make suspect they are watching nervous?

 

[brib809]

For those of us (me) who who have not been following this quite as closely: are there any ransom letters or communications that are CONFIRMED to be from the kidnapper?

 

[iamshadow21]

For those of us (me) who who have not been following this quite as closely: are there any ransom letters or communications that are CONFIRMED to be from the kidnapper?

Nope, not a one.

MOO

 

[aamillaa]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023432488350343456

New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.

Hmmm… on the heels of SG’s most recent video? TMZ seemingly tell the public significant parts of this note compared to the others? Making it clear they’ve cleared all this with the FBI?

Interesting….

 

[Van Helsing]

All JMO

Yes, I watched a Cece Moore re genetic genealogy last night, too. I’m so happy LE is likely going that route, and results are getting faster all the time( depends on what ethnic group perp originated from, Data bank varies in “ matches” close enough to be able to then be searched by genealogy family tree, select possible people, check Alibis).

JMZo

Excellent point! I had forgotten about this option in addition to CODIS! I guess the slowest part would be if the DNA analysis vendor requires a warrant. From what I understand, some vendors allow the person to opt out of sharing, in which case a warrant is required.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

For those of us (me) who who have not been following this quite as closely: are there any ransom letters or communications that are CONFIRMED to be from the kidnapper?

Not confirmed AFAIK. although LE seems to be taking them seriously JMO

 

[SUNchips]

Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)

I personally don’t think it is a dealer plate. In Arizona, the temporary license plate you get when you purchase a new car is a white piece of paper, I’ve added a photo of an example (I edited it to obscure the plate number).

As you can see, the brand of car is abbreviated on the top right corner of the temp. plate. In the photo of the Range Rover I can see either “DR” or “OR” at the top right of the plate, under the paper which I think would be the end of the abbreviation for Land Rover.

I can only think of seeing deep blue metal dealer plates here in Arizona (photo added as well).

Edited to add links, sorry @tricia !
Link for example of temp plate: Print
(My photo shows real world example but I don’t want to dox the real license plate number, I can change out the photo if needed)
Link for dealer plate: Motor Vehicle Dealer License Application Process and Account Set Up | Department of Transportation

 

[milkshakedonkey]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023432488350343456

New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she was taken to Mexico. That will likely create even more difficulty for LE, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how much cooperation there is there.

 

[VegasGirl35]

F

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023432488350343456

New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.

For God's sake, why don't they just pay the 100k and find out if it's legit once and for all? What do they have to lose at this point?

Yes, it might be a scammer but if it is, at least they'll know and they can stop wasting their time with this guy.

 

[wibbleflea]

If that nest cam footage was not from 2:12 a.m. then why did Harvey Levin say that LE confirmed that it was?

I have no problem believing the footage may have been captured at 1:47 a.m. instead of 2:12 a.m.
I originally believed that - until TMZ said LE confirmed otherwise.

It could well be from 2:12 am. I think it’s probable. HL did say that LE confirmed that with TMZ. The only thing we know is that the camera had to have reconnected at some point for this footage to appear on Google servers.

The thing we don’t know much about is the supposed disconnection at 1:47 am. We don’t know how or why it happened, or whether the disconnection was temporary. It’s just an event listed in the sheriff’s original timeline, with no detail.

 

[jepop]

I believe the confusion around non-glove DNA comes from this interview. Where the interviewer asks if DNA was found in the home and Nanos' response kind of implies that there was but maybe it's being misconstrued

‘Not Nancy’s’: Sheriff Nanos confirms unidentified DNA in Guthrie home | Fox News Video

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos tells Fox News' Jonathan Hunt investigators recovered unidentified DNA at Nancy Guthrie's home. (Fox News Channel)

www.foxnews.com

Do you mean the headline doesn't match what Nanos actually says in the interview (of Feb 13th)?

ETA okay I listened and all that can be confirmed is that they have a DNA profile from inside the house that is not NGs. But that's it.

We don't know if that profile has been cross checked with family, friends, the cleaning person, existing POIs or whoever IMO ( per that interview that isn't specified?).

From that interview we can't really say that a DNA profile has been created that doesn't match anyone already connected to the case. So I wouldn't call it an unknown profile. Moo

 

[Eli9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023432488350343456

New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.

"Them" "Mexico" Author of today's note/letter has a record of burglary from 10 years ago. Hmmmmm

 

[justwannahelp]

And why isn't this individual in the know claiming the $100k reward money?

Crazy. So is the same person who wanted the ransom money. This case has my head spinning. Seriously. Wuuuuut