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New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.
Yes. I find this odd. I don’t know what to make of it. I guess these fbi psychologists know more than us?Agree. Savannah’s attempt to appeal to the kidnapper with a teary video is so lame. These are hardened criminals- not a little child who stole something and will give it back if you ask nicely.
PLEASE I AM BEGGING AND BEGGING AND BEGGING AND BEGGING. POST LINKS TO YOUR PICTURES.Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)
@jtfolden is trying to make the point that if the camera were really disconnected from the internet (in this case, via wi-fi), the footage that's stored locally in the Nest camera, ready for upload to Google's servers, is never uploaded. For it to be uploaded, it needs a connection. Even the FBI can't recover footage from Google's servers if that footage never left the camera. If the camera was disconnected, and footage recorded after the disconnection was recovered, the camera had to have reconnected at some point and uploaded the footage to Google's servers.
Unclear, according to this: (bbm)I may be wrong, but I got the impression that the glove they found with the dna in it matched the glove the perp was wearing, not that they had dna to compare it with.Just a match on the gloves maybe. Correct me if I am wrong. JMOO
All JMOAn expert on genetic genealogy has said that DNA collected from Nancy Guthrie’s property will help law enforcement find the person responsible for the disappearance of the 84-year-old mother of Today show co-host Savannah Guthrie.
CeCe Moore, the chief genetic genealogist at Parabon Nanolabs, said investigators can use the DNA that was recovered in a process called Investigative Genetic Genealogy, or IGG. That involves uploading information to a genealogy database to look for possible relatives of the person whose DNA was found at the scene and thus, identify possible suspects.
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Nancy Guthrie Update: Expert Highlights ‘More Significant’ DNA Find
CeCe Moore said police could use investigative genetic genealogy to track down the suspect responsible for Guthrie's abduction.www.newsweek.com
2/16/2026
If he worked for her, probably voice, stature and mannerisms.Him, is mask guy, who in all his brilliance managed to get caught on the doorbell camera. This crime was very unsophisticated, hence an opportunist burglary gone wrong. As to how she could identify him...I believe they interacted in some capacity in the past such as a lawn maintenance guy, handyman or other service person. What she could identify is his voice.
CeCe Moore works with Parabon Labs, who have developed an algorithm that can actually put a face to DNA. It is remarkable technology.All JMO
Yes, I watched a Cece Moore re genetic genealogy last night, too. I’m so happy LE is likely going that route, and results are getting faster all the time( depends on what ethnic group perp originated from, Data bank varies in “ matches” close enough to be able to then be searched by genealogy family tree, select possible people, check Alibis).
JMZo
And why isn't this individual in the know claiming the $100k reward money?
New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.
Nope, not a one.For those of us (me) who who have not been following this quite as closely: are there any ransom letters or communications that are CONFIRMED to be from the kidnapper?
Hmmm… on the heels of SG’s most recent video? TMZ seemingly tell the public significant parts of this note compared to the others? Making it clear they’ve cleared all this with the FBI?
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Excellent point! I had forgotten about this option in addition to CODIS! I guess the slowest part would be if the DNA analysis vendor requires a warrant. From what I understand, some vendors allow the person to opt out of sharing, in which case a warrant is required.All JMO
Yes, I watched a Cece Moore re genetic genealogy last night, too. I’m so happy LE is likely going that route, and results are getting faster all the time( depends on what ethnic group perp originated from, Data bank varies in “ matches” close enough to be able to then be searched by genealogy family tree, select possible people, check Alibis).
JMZo
Not confirmed AFAIK. although LE seems to be taking them seriously JMOFor those of us (me) who who have not been following this quite as closely: are there any ransom letters or communications that are CONFIRMED to be from the kidnapper?
I personally don’t think it is a dealer plate. In Arizona, the temporary license plate you get when you purchase a new car is a white piece of paper, I’ve added a photo of an example (I edited it to obscure the plate number).Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she was taken to Mexico. That will likely create even more difficulty for LE, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how much cooperation there is there.
New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.
For God's sake, why don't they just pay the 100k and find out if it's legit once and for all? What do they have to lose at this point?
New letter/ransom note sent to TMZ.
It could well be from 2:12 am. I think it’s probable. HL did say that LE confirmed that with TMZ. The only thing we know is that the camera had to have reconnected at some point for this footage to appear on Google servers.If that nest cam footage was not from 2:12 a.m. then why did Harvey Levin say that LE confirmed that it was?
I have no problem believing the footage may have been captured at 1:47 a.m. instead of 2:12 a.m.
I originally believed that - until TMZ said LE confirmed otherwise.