AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoveringWombats]

So, I don't think it's necessarily productive to stir up or stoke the "Sheriff v feds" drama. That stuff is better hashed out after Nancy is found and the perp(s) have been arrested. But there was one thing from the Brian Entin video today that didn't quite make sense to me, and I'm wondering if anyone else can help me understand. From this part here (direct link to timestamp 31:41):

CeCe Moore says (pasted from YouTube's auto-generated transcript, with two minor spelling corrections by me, so it may not be perfect):

But I don't really care as long as somebody skilled is doing it and they they did not make a mistake in my opinion sending that to DNA Labs International. They can bring in the FBI genetic genealogy team too. If it ends up being a really difficult case, just like they did in the Kohberger case, right? It was started at a private lab. it was transferred to the FBI investigative genetic genealogy team and they were the ones who made that identification of Bryan and that could happen in this case too.

If she is saying that the FBI team can do stuff that the private lab can't, it doesn't make sense to me why it would then be "not a mistake" to send it to the private lab first. Isn't this potentially introducing delay, in a case in which time is clearly of the essence? Am I missing something here, or misunderstanding? I just don't get how this expert is both saying that it's fine to send it to a private lab, and that the FBI can do more than the private lab, so you could send it there later. I feel like there must be some key piece of information I am missing.

I get that if it isn't an urgent case, it can make sense to let one lab give it a shot and escalate only if they need help, but that doesn't seem like the situation we're in here.

Can someone help me understand this?

 

[Toroba]

That is what I am assuming they appear bulkier than nitrile gloves and much more sturdy than latex. Where does it say they were disposable nitrile gloves? They appeared to be the thicker bulky not disposable ones.

Ask the FBI they said they were different than the searchers which would be latex or nitrile?

The bulky black ones used in agriculture or the butyl rubber ones used for chemicals or handling things in cold storage, and used commonly in cold weather applications when working on equipment which was my first thought and are not disposable.

Seems a clue to me but ok they are on it and don't need us!

I am familiar with gloves in stores I was looking for a link that described the gloves in question.


all imo

I wear gloves frequently on a daily basis. Most disposable gloves are nitrile due to latex allergies. They make gloves with different thicknesses so the gloves may look bulkier because they are thicker quality or they have on multiple layers/poorly sized gloves. I remembered during the beginning of Covid nobody really knew what was going on, there were times I wore two layers of gloves and they were tight. JMO the guy probably has multiple layers of gloves on.

 

[Cassie P]

That is what I am assuming they appear bulkier than nitrile gloves and much more sturdy than latex. Where does it say they were disposable nitrile gloves? They appeared to be the thicker bulky not disposable ones.

Ask the FBI they said they were different than the searchers which would be latex or nitrile?

The bulky black ones used in agriculture or the butyl rubber ones used for chemicals or handling things in cold storage, and used commonly in cold weather applications when working on equipment which was my first thought and are not disposable.

Seems a clue to me but ok they are on it and don't need us!

I am familiar with gloves in stores I was looking for a link that described the gloves in question.


all imo

edit to add sample non disposable from Walmart [!] but not what I would call commonly used like a latex, imo
Libman Black Industrial Grade Rubber Blended Reusable Gloves - Walmart.com
View attachment 645614

I agree, the gloves worn by Lantana Man look bulky and not disposable.
What occupation uses these kind of gloves and bite lights?

 

[Napoli]

It makes me wonder if there's negotiations going on behind the scenes and the movie quotes are coded language for "we're getting the money together" or something like that. Maybe Savannah is going to pay the 6 mil but has to liquidate some assets first.

It tells me the person might live vicariously through movies, TV etc. Also, says why he sends emails to TMZ. JMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Yep, think how brilliant it will be if cops already did a DNA sweep of the car, right? They have that DNA of "those" people. Now lets say those people aren't in Codis, but now those people are on black glove. Bingo.

Think it's quite probable, actually! IMO

 

[turaj]

I've been wondering the same thing: How long is the media going to continue covering this story? Until there's a resolution? Or, until there's another major breaking news story that usurps coverage of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance?

I think you are right...another breaking news story will send some out of Tucson.

 

[VioletBoxcar]

Or, it's just general sentences that happen to be also used in movies.
JMO

None of it sounds odd or coded to me. It’s the kind of language that people who truly believe in forgiveness and that all people are inherently ‘good’ use.

 

[connie9030]

Unless they are negotiating secretly behind the scenes, I don't think this feels at all like a kidnapping for ransom. You don't want someone for 3 weeks, especially an elderly person with health issues. This feels like a famous/rich person went missing and con artists are taking their shot at money. I don't think any actual communication from the individual in the video has occurred. My thought, terrible as it is, is that this is a serial offender and had nothing to do with who her family was. This feels like a bad situation and I feel what happened has already happened within a few hours of her being taken. I hope I'm wrong and someone returns her safely. But this just doesn't feel like a sophisticated kidnapping for money.

I agree. If it was a sophisticated kidnapping for money they would have taken SG's sister, not the elderly, immobile Mom.

 

[Sarahlou]

Didn't a few minutes ago, LE said this isn't true? Good lord, me confused.

That tweet was from yesterday (15th)

 

[Chimera]

Most people NG's age living alone would presumably have an emergency necklace or something that they can press at any time to call 911. I think it is to ensure they can get help if they have a fall or a medical emergency. How could an unknown intruder know if she had this or not? Only an insider would know this (that she didn't have one). I am leaning towards someone in her inner circle hiring a kidnapper or hitman off the dark web and that is the perp caught on camera. Maybe they even used bitcoin as payment. MOO.

Well I'd be surprised if this was a random perp.
Not impossible, but it feels like someone had put some thought into this crime !

Here we are and still no Nancy and no answers, outside of the dna sent to FL. (& what the heck was that all about ? No one else closer and qualified ?)
Imo.

 

[abanddb123]

That tweet was from yesterday (15th)

Thank you.

 

[shonyakay]

Here is a neighbor talking about Nancy's front door and where her bedroom was located. It is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/13/us/video/ebof-guthrie-neighbor-laura-gargano-feb-13

 

[BellaToothless]

None of it sounds odd or coded to me. It’s the kind of language that people who truly believe in forgiveness and that all people are inherently ‘good’ use.

Yes. I agree. The language used seems more aligned with her religious beliefs.

 

[investigatoroffacts]

So, I don't think it's necessarily productive to stir up or stoke the "Sheriff v feds" drama. That stuff is better hashed out after Nancy is found and the perp(s) have been arrested. But there was one thing from the Brian Entin video today that didn't quite make sense to me, and I'm wondering if anyone else can help me understand. From this part here (direct link to timestamp 31:41):

CeCe Moore says (pasted from YouTube's auto-generated transcript, with two minor spelling corrections by me, so it may not be perfect):



If she is saying that the FBI team can do stuff that the private lab can't, it doesn't make sense to me why it would then be "not a mistake" to send it to the private lab first. Isn't this potentially introducing delay, in a case in which time is clearly of the essence? Am I missing something here, or misunderstanding? I just don't get how this expert is both saying that it's fine to send it to a private lab, and that the FBI can do more than the private lab, so you could send it there later. I feel like there must be some key piece of information I am missing.

I get that if it isn't an urgent case, it can make sense to let one lab give it a shot and escalate only if they need help, but that doesn't seem like the situation we're in here.

Can someone help me understand this?

This is the way I perceive it…That Private labs can often generate a usable DNA profile faster, especially if the FBI lab is backed up and the evidence would otherwise sit in a queue. Labs like DNA Labs International tend to move quickly and have fewer bureaucratic steps. Then if the sample is complicated (partial DNA, mixture, IGG needed, etc.), the FBI can step in and take it further with their specialized resources. So it’s not really “private lab vs FBI” it can be private lab first for speed, then FBI escalation if needed.

 

[shonyakay]

Didn't a few minutes ago, LE said this isn't true? Good lord, me confused.

Yes per BE - he said the Sheriff said it wasn't accurate because it is still an active investigation.

 

[SaraSmile]

Also, remeber when Laci Peterson's body washed up? LE had been following SP for weeks keeping tabs on him although "not a suspect" and as soon as her body washed up they caught him on the way to Mexico with dyed hair and gotee!!

Many criminals think if they cross the border into Mexico, ie. Tijuana, Ensenada, Rosario, that they are safe.
They head to the beach, cold drink! Ahh, freedom( they think!). Shortly after apprehended!

Soon Mexican border patrol or police pick them up, return to USA LE custody. It’s so often, fast such great cooperation along the border! Mexicans don’t want US criminals in their tourist areas. Many Americans like the tourist areas to blend in, speak English. ( in this AZ case, these perps may know Spanish).

Ryan Wedding escaped capture for 10 years because he headed way south, had cartel protection, til he got caught. In the end the Mexicans found him, told US Marshals. JMO

Rosarito Beach seems to be the first stop for many dumb criminals. Matthew Taylor Coleman,
Christian Hilliaret, Hannah Kobayashi. 3 fairly recent, all caught on border crossing, very good cameras.

JMO
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[warp3dwing]

I agree, the gloves worn by Lantana Man look bulky and not disposable.
What occupation uses these kind of gloves and bite lights?

When I searched "bitelight", Manhattan Wardrobe Supply's site came up. Not sure if it's coming up at the top because of my geolocation or what.

But they sell thick gloves (for hair dyes?) and bitelights among other hair and makeup-related tools.

Seems unlikely, but hey, it's a data point.

 

[CandyKiss]

Most people NG's age living alone would presumably have an emergency necklace or something that they can press at any time to call 911. I think it is to ensure they can get help if they have a fall or a medical emergency. How could an unknown intruder know if she had this or not? Only an insider would know this (that she didn't have one). I am leaning towards someone in her inner circle hiring a kidnapper or hitman off the dark web and that is the perp caught on camera. Maybe they even used bitcoin as payment. MOO.

You'd be suprised by the reports; most seniors do not wear the emergency buttons/necklace. (see attached) Medical Alert Systems: 2023-2024 Research and Statistics

 

[Diddian]

Personally, I think the lantana was a stroke of genius. To me it means he’s a problem solver.

Yes, but even chimpanzees use plants as tools.

 

[Napoli]

In the movie BUFFALO BILL, Senator Martin says to the serial killer...she's gentle and kind. TALK TO HER AND YOU'LL SEE. SG used that line in one of her videos..IIRC. So, movie script lingo is rapidly becoming more than a coincidence MOO