AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[milkshakedonkey]

If it's a coordinated effort which to me means the FBI is telling them to make the announcements then yes thats fine. Was there something specific that you saw that makes you think this is the case? Appreciate your thoughts.

He just mentions multiple times that things were ok’d by the FBI or LE.

 

[slowpoke]

Really don't see anything reported on news, just a trail of blood, not tracks. Anyone find the offical posts on this? Thanks

Sheriff Nanos stated no when asked if there were tire tracks or footprints at the Feb 3 (I think it was) news conference.

“There were no tire tracks or footprints found around her home.”

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Day 3 latest updates

Authorities say "concerning circumstances" at Guthrie's Catalina Foothills home suggest she was taken against her will, and was possibly kidnapped or abducted. Signs of forced entry were reportedly found at the scene.

www.fox10phoenix.com

 

[moonglow123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023515159361470645

I believe this is allowed since Fox News is approved for this case.

Yep. I’m leaning more and more towards the two men from Friday being involved, and LE just working on proving it and figuring out what they did to Nancy.

 

[penguinface]

Kind of a weird longshot and it’s probably been said before earlier in the thread but there’s the possibility that all of the emails to TMZ have been from the perp and they shifted to trying to get a much lower amount once they realised that no proof of life meant not getting their intended “jackpot”.

JMO

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I hope Nanos gets booted and Sergeant Cross gets promoted!*

It’s an elected position, am I right about that?

Just because they were released after the search does not mean they are not the perpetrators. They may end up being charged and LE and FBI were waiting to get additional solid evidence such as DNA linking the suspects to the crime scene. JMHO

I have wondered if they released them to see if they slipped up and lead them to her or where she is at?

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

I'm pretty sure that cash is federal jurisdiction by nature of what it is and who prints it, and would be considered interstate commerce by default. But hopefully someone else will chime in to clarify if my understanding isn't fully correct.

JMO.

If they used the internet, cell phone or other instruments of interstate commerce (mail) to carry out the kidnapping for ransom it falls under federal jurisdiction whether cash, bitcoin, gold, silver or expensive Pokémon cards etc. are demanded in exchange for the victim. They could have the state prosecute the offender for kidnapping and just focus on the communication aspect of the ransom or they could take on both. In this case the feds would take on both to really stick it to this person or persons.

Imo

 

[Derdew]

Dbm

 

[detectivewannab]

I have always thought that the black thing sticking out of the pocket is the aerial of a walkie talkie. JMO

Probably from Walmart! Good eye.

 

[DizzyB]

i wouldn't have said he was good at problem-solving, only that he attempted to rather than freezing up or charging ahead without doing anything about the camera. the fact that he kept thinking, even though he did a bad job of it, seems significant to me. maybe a sign he's broken into houses before? i don't see panic.

I was trying to figure out how to describe his manner on the footage-best I can do is “laid back”. Not what I would expect to see, but that might just be my own stereotypical thought process. I expect someone that looks more sure of themselves, determined, a little quicker with their steps and process. The lantana is a head scratcher.

 

[submarine7]

Kind of a weird longshot and it’s probably been said before earlier in the thread but there’s the possibility that all of the emails to TMZ have been from the perp and they shifted to trying to get a much lower amount once they realised that no proof of life meant not getting their intended “jackpot”.

JMO

Absolutely. I believe this is what they are doing, but I can't figure out if they really want money or this is just a full on lunatic.

 

[Donswife48]

Ashleigh Banfield owes TC a PUBLIC apology.

AB probably will need to defend herself from a lawsuit after time to sort things out. And shame on social media for jumping on the "witch hunt". I

 

[warp3dwing]

On the second or third letter they issued a threat (speculating toward Nancy) of what they would do if they didn't get their money. They shifted from observer of kidnappers to kidnapper. Total bs

I think the suspect or suspects are sending those emails to create chaos. They crave attention, and they’re desperate to get the heat off them. I just get the feeling the stakes are too high for anyone else to be playing these games with the FBI. Or they’re well outside U.S. jurisdiction.

I can already see in the comment sections of TMZ for example, horrid xenophobic posts. Makes me wonder what the emailer is trying to whip up.

Doesn't seem like LE is taking the bait.

 

[Derdew]

Sorry here’s the statement

 

[whitelilac]

Possible, but I think the more likely reason is that NG might have been removed from her property in her own car and then whoever was driving her car and whoever was driving that other car both drove to the same place (terrain that my have been tough on both cars).

NG’s car was taken by LE after LE reportedly viewed Circle K surveillance. I’m guessing LE saw NG’s car on surveillance being used that night. And for perpetrators so careful to disguise themselves and possibly protect themselves from DNA transfer, it would make sense for them to use NG’s vehicle to contain her until they get her to where they are taking her. Presumably, her vehicle electronics will tell that part of the story.

But wasn't the opening and closing of the garage door recorded (2 to 3 minutes) when NG was brought back by family to her house that night?
If NG was taken in her own car, there would be another time recorded later where the garage door was opened and closed.

Or am I mistaken about the first sentence....though LE knows that the door was opened and closed within 3 minutes timeframe, right?

 

[submarine7]

I think the suspect or suspects are sending those emails to create chaos. They crave attention, and they’re desperate to get the heat off them. I just get the feeling the stakes are too high for anyone else to be playing these games with the FBI. Or they’re well outside U.S. jurisdiction.

I can already see in the comment sections of TMZ for example, horrid xenophobic posts. Makes me wonder what the emailer is trying to whip up.

Doesn't seem like LE is taking the bait.

I posted similar above. I don't get the end game at all or the big why?

 

[tomatotraveler]

I never had a strong opinion one way or another about if this family was directly involved (which per the last I'd seen is not the case), but a total stranger -- as in, someone who'd never interacted with Nancy OR any of her kids etc who also isn't family -- showing up to kidnap and possibly physically harm an 84 year old woman is SO confusing. And I just really don't see this as something that started with an intended theft that just randomly turned into not even an attack or murder where the victim is left in the home, but a kidnapping where the victim is unaccounted for for weeks. Again: I could absolutely be wrong, it's just really hard to wrap my head around.

I suppose it's possible it's someone totally random who just knew she had a famous daughter and...I guess, either wanted attention from/hated said daughter for some reason, or if somehow some of the ransom notes ARE real and they thought this would be a good way to get some cash (doesn't seem like that latter option's worked out well for them thus far, though), I could see how it COULD be someone with zero connection to the family or NG directly. This just still seems like SUCH a wild scenario to me. (Goodness knows plenty of crazy things happen every day, so I'm not saying there's no way -- and certainly the famous-person element of this story makes this scenario more possible than if NG had no publicly known relatives -- but then we're dealing with something/someone truly bizarre and likely mentally ill. In which case I'd question how long this person could manage to not mess up or divulge something or spin further out of control, or arouse suspicions amongst whoever else is in their life.)

I think I'm inclined to believe it's at least someone who knew the family/Nancy in some way. A disturbed neighbor who was mad about something real or imagined; a creepy neighbor who was stalking NG for some reason; a friend of a relative who's addicted to drugs or otherwise not in full control of their mental faculties and was making unreasonable choices; someone who'd worked in the house or for someone in their family and thought they'd been wronged/not properly compensated? NG may not have even necessarily known this person was unhappy with her, if so.

It's just such a very strange case. I do worry that something was missed early on that is going to make this very hard to solve or at least prosecute. I hope I'm wrong on that.

 

[Diddian]

But wasn't the opening and closing of the garage door recorded (2 to 3 minutes) when NG was brought back by family to her house that night?
If NG was taken in her own car, there would be another time recorded later where the garage door was opened and closed.

Or am I mistaken about the first sentence....though LE knows that the door was opened and closed within 3 minutes timeframe, right?

When this was earlier discussed on this thread, members speculated that the perpetrator may have manually opened the garage door (bypassing the app). Alternatively, LE may know about a later open/close but chose to omit from the timeline they publicly released.

 

[shonyakay]

AB probably will need to defend herself from a lawsuit after time to sort things out. And shame on social media for jumping on the "witch hunt". I

I hope she throws her "source" under the bus and they are revealed.

 

[armchairagatha]

For the Sheriff to be able to clear the family, the Sheriff may believe that they have identified their suspects through DNA that places them at the crime scene, vehicles, cell phones etc.

All just my opinion but it seems that the only way he can clear the family is to be sure, based on DNA at the crime scene and other evidence, that they know who the suspects are.

JMHO

Maybe the DNA is pointing to one of the people they detained the other day?

 

[whitelilac]

When this was earlier discussed on this thread, members speculated that the perpetrator may have manually opened the garage door (bypassing the app). Alternatively, LE may know about a later open/close but chose to omit from the timeline they publicly released.

Manually....could be, makes sense. TY