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Could Nancy’s blood have been from a stress nosebleed, rather than a deliberate injury?
I know children can bleed profusely due to spontaneous nosebleeds, but haven’t actually heard of elderly people suffering from similar.
We have heard on this thread that she is on blood thinners. If you get a nick or cut when you're on blood thinners, you can bleed quite a bit. JMO
 
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[I keep thinking to myself "What are the odds of that many people in sweaters and backpacks at 2am in back yards".... Hell, it seems like this is a group of employees with uniforms being sent out to do stuff at 2am.... I cannot wrap my head around it. Note to self: Not interested in living anywhere near this neighborhood ]

IMO, just agreeing with you
Sounds like a big Cartel-backed kidnapping ring casing houses in a rich American neighborhood.
 
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Were there motion lights outside her garage? Who actually dropped her off? Did they help her inside? Did she leave a porch light on? Did the driver just sit in the car with headlights on to guide her and then drive off?? Has this already been discovered?

LE are always telling people to lock their car doors and stop making it so easy for criminals, and it was interesting to see the guy see if the car was locked.

This is thought to be a low crime area. Maybe it doesn't have a lot of crime reported because the criminals aren't getting caught stealing cars or mail.

JMO
There are plenty of 'would be" criminals. And plenty of trespassers, that's for sure. Really creepy.
 
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True, and the idea is that after they are detained and released they will start contacting any coconspirators (if there are any) or perhaps reveal a location that will enable me to answer that bigger question.
That's my thought. They will likely make another mistake. But, either way, there is likely enough DNA evidence to arrest them, if the DNA connected with these guys at the crime scene. JMO
 
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My family member is a locksmith - recently he had to sort out the locks on behalf of the police for a victim of crime. The reason the elderly couple had a home invasion is because their carer (woman) provided information to the criminals. 💔
Older women may not be used to women being hard core criminals?
 
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There are plenty of 'would be" criminals. And plenty of trespassers, that's for sure. Really creepy.
Very creepy. And perhaps more normal than we think in a rich American neighborhood. JMO
 
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In the Adelson case, LE employed the "tickling the wire" technique when the guy approached DA on the street and passed off the note about his family member needing more payment for the murder (my words) and DA went home and called CA who called KM who called SG etc. It put all the conspirators together in order of how things were carried out. I think they are tickling the wire here.
 
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BBM. Not so sure that's the case with SG and her Mom NG. I think it's all about SG.

Amateur opinion and speculation
If it is about SG, then the kidnappers may take better care of NG?
 
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I can’t even imagine being pissed that the police are looking for a missing woman. WTH is wrong with people?
nah if the fbi raid my home for a crime i didn't do and ruined my property (rio rico they did, idk about this house) i'd be annoyed too. not to mention the media stalking their house out now. I can understand the frustration.

i doubt they're mad because "police are looking for a missing woman"
 
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There are plenty of 'would be" criminals. And plenty of trespassers, that's for sure. Really creepy.
The Sheriff needs to take a hard line on that and get the lookie-loo's off that private property. So disrespectful.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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I can’t even imagine being pissed that the police are looking for a missing woman. WTH is wrong with people?
lol. I’d be pissed if police did that to me. That’s traumatizing.
 
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None of these other crimes posted from the Ring app were “in the area” at all. They were miles away in a way worse, more dense part of Tucson. Where Nancy lives is a very nice, affluent neighborhood with very low crime. this is all completely my own opinion and experience from living all over the city of Tucson.
1.5 miles away is in the area IMHO .. that is just a slight walk I walk one mile every day in my mall ... it's not a long walk at all.
 
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Could Nancy’s blood have been from a stress nosebleed, rather than a deliberate injury?
I know children can bleed profusely due to spontaneous nosebleeds, but haven’t actually heard of elderly people suffering from similar.
that’s sorta what i’m thinking. the blood isn’t smattered about, it’s circular-ish droplets which imo means she had her head tilted down. maybe she was being carried, idk. of course moo and going off what we know currently!
 
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In my opinion they got the results back but are telling the public otherwise to give a potential suspect a false sense of security. JMO

I think there was a partial match and they were awaiting confirmation of an official match yesterday.

You might be right and that would explain the Sheriff publicly clearing the family today.
 
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Very creepy. And perhaps more normal than we think in a rich American neighborhood. JMO
My friend's still on the job have a saying about upscale neighborhoods : "It's where the bad guys shop."

Working class neighborhoods get more of the petty stuff, tweakers grabbing tools to pawn for a fix, and high crime neighborhoods, well usually only trap houses or someone who comes into a stack of cash gets hit.

Upscale neighborhoods with elderly populations (jewelry, cash) in secluded, wooded, spaced out estate style living is prime shopping ground. And workers and cleaning ladies are sometimes contacts for a tip after casing a house.
 
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I wonder if the reason LE thinks the person is local is because NG recognized and man and he decided that she would turn him in if he left without her. Why else would you take a barely mobile older person with you?
 
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nah if the fbi raid my home for a crime i didn't do and ruined my property (rio rico they did, idk about this house) i'd be annoyed too. not to mention the media stalking their house out now. I can understand the frustration.

i doubt they're mad because "police are looking for a missing woman"
Tucson is a large “small town” and there is a high likelihood the owner of that car knew of Nancy around town. MOO of course.
 
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