AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[fridaybaker]

Just


So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.

I read somewhere that they keep video for 90 days max.

 

[submarine7]

I wonder if in this instance she is addressing the person who is in contact with Harvey Levin. I listened to Levin's video this morning and I thought of Savannah's words in relation to whoever that person might be.

I think they are one in the same but I have no clue who they are or why they took Nancy. But I think the letters are coming from the real perp(s?) and they don't appear to genuinely be motivated by money.

 

[hopeprayer]

It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.

I am wondering if she is talking to an unwilling accomplice (maybe the mom of the perp?) who might know something but is scared to come forward. Maybe the mom is torn between trying to protect her son and doing the right thing.

JMO.

 

[cait2007]

I think they are one and the same but I have no clue who they are or why they took Nancy. But I think the letters are coming from the real perp(s?) and they don't appear to genuinely be motivated by money.

The TMZ emails are getting ridiculous. Now people are starting gofundmes to get money to buy a bitcoin for his info and even those are SCAMS! I think the emailer is an opportunist that’s loving the publicity. I’m sure whoever took NG is watching the news, so if he was seen by this alleged informant, don’t you think he would be after him? It makes no sense. He could go to the fbi for an anonymous tip and claim the reward after giving the info. Instead, he’s just obstructing justice. I really hope they stop giving this emailer the time of day.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Yeah, they probably use something more powerful than Excel- like AWS or Apache but you got the principle right. Using SQL to query for region, item, date/time should yield pretty good results. IMO a task like this would take me 30 minutes tops. The hard part is going to be getting the footage from Walmart depending how long ago these items were purchased. However based on the video of the perp, all of the items seem pretty new and i'd guess he was stupid enough to buy everything at the same time, sometime in January from a local Tucson walmart.

JMO

I know JLR is not an approved source here---however I was watching his livestream and he purchased the same backpack. While watching him look at the backpack, I did notice it said "Walmart 2024" on the tag. I assumed that to be the date of manufacture.

If that's the case, Walmart is looking at purchases 2024 and after, perhaps.

IDK--someone here said they recognized the logo when the pictures first came out---maybe they can chime in as to how long they know it was carried by Walmart.

 

[Han]

As someone whose elderly mom was targeted by people who knew her in real life as well as by strangers through online means (she regularly downloaded viruses; my cybersecurity son even found spyware on her laptop!)...I keep wondering if the perp(s) were after more than just the typical valuables like cash on hand and jewelry. Is it possible that they were after bigger things like access to her bank accounts?

Some of the reasons this comes to mind: 41 minutes (longer than a typical home invasion, which could have bought time to look through files), the adult protective services business card stuck in the door, dealings with bitcoin (if the ransom notes are legit and tied to the perps), bungling lantana man's efforts (might be cyber savvy but not burglary savvy), no mention of valuables stolen (there might have been, but LE has said her wallet and other things were left behind).

My mom would keep a paper list of her passwords. She was old school, no matter how much we told her it was dangerous to do that.

JMO

Yes 41 minutes but it may have been longer since the time we were given, 2:28, was just the time when the pacemaker couldn’t connect to the app either via her phone or by a receiver in her bedroom. The signal from the pacemaker is weak so you have to be close to connect. We don’t actually know how long they were there but it was at least 41 minutes.

 

[Cristofori406]

So maybe they are not the idiots they are being made out to be?

I’ve long thought this, too. All of the inconsistencies seem intentional.

 

[submarine7]

The TMZ emails are getting ridiculous. Now people are starting gofundmes to get money to buy a bitcoin for his info and even those are SCAMS! I think the emailer is an opportunist that’s loving the publicity. I’m sure whoever took NG is watching the news, so if he was seen by this alleged informant, don’t you think he would be after him? It makes no sense. He could go to the fbi for an anonymous tip and claim the reward after giving the info. Instead, he’s just obstructing justice. I really hope they stop giving this emailer the time of day.

I totally agree about the absurdity of much of this situation, but to me it seems like they may believe there's some validity to the messages so they are giving him a stage to encourage communication? I actually believe they are genuine. The messages that have subsequently been sent to only TMZ are more dubious to me. MOO

 

[hopeprayer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023592698288992560

 

[cait2007]

As someone whose elderly mom was targeted by people who knew her in real life as well as by strangers through online means (she regularly downloaded viruses; my cybersecurity son even found spyware on her laptop!)...I keep wondering if the perp(s) were after more than just the typical valuables like cash on hand and jewelry. Is it possible that they were after bigger things like access to her bank accounts?

Some of the reasons this comes to mind: 41 minutes (longer than a typical home invasion, which could have bought time to look through files), the adult protective services business card stuck in the door, dealings with bitcoin (if the ransom notes are legit and tied to the perps), bungling lantana man's efforts (might be cyber savvy but not burglary savvy), no mention of valuables stolen (there might have been, but LE has said her wallet and other things were left behind).

My mom would keep a paper list of her passwords. She was old school, no matter how much we told her it was dangerous to do that.

JMO

My mom’s elderly MIL was taken advantage of a couple years ago. She was 86yo and living alone at the time. She had been contacted many times by overseas scam artists, but one finally worked. A man called impersonating a LEO and said her granddaughter was being incarcerated for some bogus crime. He put her “granddaughter” on the phone crying, begging to help get cash for the bail. She actually thought this was real! They wanted $25k cash, but the bank only let her withdrawal $10k. The scammers said for her to drop it off at a specific location, but she said she refused and they had to pick it up at her house. They actually send someone to the house to pick up the cash! It was recorded on her ring camera. The family figured it out and reported it. Police set up a sting operation to catch the guy, but the car was a rental, phone was a burner, and the guy was just a money runner with no info on who he was working for oversees. This happens ALL THE TIME! The scarier part was he groomed her for a while and knew things about her family.

I wonder if NG had received any weird calls or had scam attempts. They prey on elderly people. It’s so common now!

 

[annpats]

it's possible the perps explained to NG that they were taking her but would look after her until a ransom was paid.

I would like to think that would be the case, but after 3 weeks, nobody has received any proof of life.
Surely that would be needed to keep the ransom money more of a possibility (from the kidnappers perspective)

 

[LRinCA]

I thought this was interesting.

“You have to keep the press at arm’s length,” Carrillo said. “You keep your secrets close to the vest. We owe (the press) nothing. They’re listening to it, but so is the suspect or suspects involved following it. And we in law enforcement don’t want them to know what we’re doing.”

Rampant misinformation can be roadblock for investigators in Nancy Guthrie case​

As details remain limited from authorities, misinformation runs rampant online​

Rampant misinformation can be roadblock for investigators in Nancy Guthrie case

As details remain limited in Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, misinformation spreads rampant online

www.kold.com

 

[annpats]

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From this pic, it looks like there may be a doormat underneath, which makes it seem like it IS a sliding door.

Hard to say if it is slightly open, or is it just the screen that is not all the way closed. But I do see what you see about it appearing open.

Where I got this pic from: Fox10phoenix link

Obviously a sliding door. You wouldn't have a mat for wiping your feet outside a non-opening window.

 

[submarine7]

My mom’s elderly MIL was taken advantage of a couple years ago. She was 86yo and living alone at the time. She had been contacted many times by overseas scam artists, but one finally worked. A man called impersonating a LEO and said her granddaughter was being incarcerated for some bogus crime. He put her “granddaughter” on the phone crying, begging to help get cash for the bail. She actually thought this was real! They wanted $25k cash, but the bank only let her withdrawal $10k. The scammers said for her to drop it off at a specific location, but she said she refused and they had to pick it up at her house. They actually send someone to the house to pick up the cash! It was recorded on her ring camera. The family figured it out and reported it. Police set up a sting operation to catch the guy, but the car was a rental, phone was a burner, and the guy was just a money runner with no info on who he was working for oversees. This happens ALL THE TIME! The scarier part was he groomed her for a while and knew things about her family.

I wonder if NG had received any weird calls or had scam attempts. They prey on elderly people. It’s so common now!

The APS card makes me wonder. I'm not elderly, but if I was and I got financially scammed, I'm not sure I would tell my family and friends. I suppose it's situational.

 

[Cristofori406]

Maybe in earpiece. Maybe just talking loudly through the window beside the door.

"Not there 'ya dummy, go further out and step down, THERE - to your right!"

(ETA: I hope they swabbed the interior of the window beside the door opening.)

If some one was talking to him through the door, would he have gone to knock it like we see him do right before “noticing” the camera?

 

[cait2007]

I totally agree about the absurdity of much of this situation, but to me it seems like they may believe there's some validity to the messages so they are giving him a stage to encourage communication? I actually believe they are genuine. The messages that have subsequently been sent to only TMZ are more dubious to me. MOO

Unfortunately, we’ve only heard from “TMZ email guy” and not the original ransom letter that police believed to have validity. The original ransom has had no correspondence or way to communicate and it’s been awhile now. That makes me wonder if she passed away and he can’t prove she’s alive for ransom. Or if it was something fake? It’s also weird to be going to the media with these notes and not to the family or even Savannah.

 

[cait2007]

The APS card makes me wonder. I'm not elderly, but if I was and I got financially scammed, I'm not sure I would tell my family and friends. I suppose it's situational.

We only found out because the bank called her son about her wanting to pull out more cash. He’s on her account as an overseer.
However, most don’t tell. I just know scamming or getting information out of the elderly isn’t difficult these day and so many capitalize on it.

 

[tbgo]

Was a glove found in NG’s house? I see people saying this again. I thought that was debunked.

 

[submarine7]

Was a glove found in NG’s house? I see people saying this again. I thought that was debunked.

Debunked

 

[SlimPickens]

Makes no sense. Just makes no sense. Whether she was walking, being carried, in a wheelchair, on a stretcher, dead, alive, whatever the case - it would've been much easier, more efficient, and far less risky/chance of being seen, if NG was removed from the back of the house where it was level ground and no steps. And then easily walked/carried/led around the corner/gate by the garage to a waiting vehicle.

So why the front door? Why the narrow path? Why the steps? Did he want to be seen? Was this a production?

JMO.