AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Gunther Toody]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

 

[Emerald1328]

My mom’s elderly MIL was taken advantage of a couple years ago. She was 86yo and living alone at the time. She had been contacted many times by overseas scam artists, but one finally worked. A man called impersonating a LEO and said her granddaughter was being incarcerated for some bogus crime. He put her “granddaughter” on the phone crying, begging to help get cash for the bail. She actually thought this was real! They wanted $25k cash, but the bank only let her withdrawal $10k. The scammers said for her to drop it off at a specific location, but she said she refused and they had to pick it up at her house. They actually send someone to the house to pick up the cash! It was recorded on her ring camera. The family figured it out and reported it. Police set up a sting operation to catch the guy, but the car was a rental, phone was a burner, and the guy was just a money runner with no info on who he was working for oversees. This happens ALL THE TIME! The scarier part was he groomed her for a while and knew things about her family.

I wonder if NG had received any weird calls or had scam attempts. They prey on elderly people. It’s so common now!

This exact thing happened to my grandma a few years ago by people posing as me. They (me) asked for $12,000 so she went to the bank to get it. The bank actually pulled her into an office and convinced her to not take it out until she confirmed directly with me or my husband by calling our phone numbers directly. The bank got ahold of me and put me on speaker phone so I could assure my grandma that I was ok. I was so mad that this happened to her (but also it was sweet in a weird way, that she would take out $12,000, no questions asked, to help me). Thank god for her bank.

ETA: At first she made up a story of what the money was for which was very reasonable, but they were very suspicious and after questioning her a few times, she told them.

 

[Laura Avery]

From AI:
Direct Talk phones, primarily older
Motorola iDEN handsets used on the Nextel network, function as two-way radios, bypassing cell towers entirely to provide direct, off-network communication. Operating on the 900 MHz ISM band, they use Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum (FHSS) technology, offering 10 channels and 15 codes for private or group "walkie-talkie" calls within a 1–3 mile range.

Yes i.umdrtstand as my grandpa is a Ham radio operator, and tested frequencies for various reasons. There are still frequency signals that can be located, even by the general public. Police officials are much more sophisticated than our own. I once asked if it's possible for wind technology (wind farms) yo be able to bounce signals across , .this idea apparently is not entirely ruled out yet. So radio or walkie talkies signals are picked up easily and can cause interference with police scanners. It's not a secretive as people think.
Anyway thanks for the chat x

 

[Cassie P]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

The purpose of the DNA search is to identify a suspect. Once LE has a suspect, they can narrow down their search significantly. And they can interview the suspect to gain information about the whereabouts of NG.

This is the whole point about the DNA and gloves.

 

[Sessiebo]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

Seems to me that if they find a DNA match, they find the guy who took her therefore they possibly find Nancy.
JMO

 

[H73]

Maybe the garage entrance to the house was closer to a closet, bathroom or her bedroom. She also probably didn't have to deal with stairs. Moo

Safer and easier to go in garage. Front has steps and a flagstone walkway also may not be well lit and maybe several sets of locks to go through. Garage walk is flat , probably better lit and if she's like me I don't lock the entry door inside of the garage.

 

[pulchra73]

Consent for "FBI and police to use" Ancestry doesn't currently allow police officials to access public DNA . However Gedmatch does with prior consent by the consumer, currently The rights to DNA in the UK at least is private to the owner and you can refuse to give consent. This is also why police collect evidence from discarded rubbish, to get around this issue
I believe however once a match is proven they can get a warrant to get further conclusive evidence.

I cant remember what I consented to on GedMatch now. Just looked on ancestry and it was just scientific stuff.

 

[Warshawski]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Day 16 latest updates

Over the weekend, authorities said they were awaiting final lab results for a glove found near the 84-year-old's residence that appears to match the masked suspect's glove in the surveillance video.

www.fox10phoenix.com

2/16/2026


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Are they the same person ?

 

[Gunther Toody]

The purpose of the DNA search is to identify a suspect. Once LE has a suspect, they can narrow down their search significantly. And they can interview the suspect to gain information about the whereabouts of NG.

This is the whole point about the DNA and gloves.

In this situation the DNA first approach is not the best way to go. This was a disorganized offender who, in my opinion set out to pull off a burglary that went wrong. She probably recognized his voice from a previous encounter, either as a service person or even a neighbor and he panicked. His options...run and get caught later, or take control of the witness, which he did.

Just as surely, he separated himself from her as quickly as possible because it was never the plan to take her...he was forced to for self-preservation. It is the same mindset that a killer suffers when his only goal is to distance himself from the crime scene as quickly as possible.

If I had to guess, he probably drover her into the desert, bound her and left her there. That is why finding her is a priority. It is extremely unlikely he still has her.

Even if DNA is a match, what does it prove, nothing. It creates a person of interest, who then has to be investigated, evidence gathered, and finally, getting a judge to sign a search warrant...all the while the 84 year old woman is somewhere incapacitated without her medication, and possibly food and water.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Maybe the garage entrance to the house was closer to a closet, bathroom or her bedroom. She also probably didn't have to deal with stairs. Moo

Some keep the front door as “formal” entry for guests & visitors so it’s not cluttered with shoes, bags and jackets. Garage entry is where family dumps bags, car keys, shoes etc out of sight.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

With all of these people that are getting on social media rendering their opinions and their thoughts, investigators have to take time from their investigation and assign people to follow those leads up because they all have to be followed,” Carrillo said. “Every one of them has to be vetted out.”

Carrillo was instrumental in capturing California’s infamous serial killer known as “The Night Stalker” in the 1980s.

Carrillo said every person in the media and online is responsible for shared information.

“Whether it be a newspaper, magazine, social media, they put that stuff out there, and it goes there without vetting it; it just stops the investigation,” Carrillo said.

Rampant misinformation can be roadblock for investigators in Nancy Guthrie case

The story has captured international attention, and misinformation from unverified sources about Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance remains rampant.

www.azfamily.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Law enforcement is working with a device known as a “signal sniffer” that uses an amplifier to find Bluetooth signals and identify the unique MAC [Media Access Control] address of Guthrie’s pacemaker using a directional antenna.

“It’s got software running in it, continuously scans, and if it doesn’t recognize (hers), it just eliminates it until it locks onto the right one,” said Morgan Wright, CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases.

Wright, who also analyzes true crime cases on Substack, said the process is similar to walking around with Guthrie’s cellphone and waiting for a Bluetooth connection request but on a much larger scale

FBI using ‘signal sniffer’ technology to search for Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker

The FBI's use of new technology could be a turning point in narrowing down the timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and where she might be now.

www.fox19.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Messages received by TMZ add a new layer to the high-profile investigation. Authorities have said that she was likely taken from her Tucson‑area home against her will on the night of January 31.

It’s been years since a high-profile abduction case with an alleged ransom demand has captured the nation’s attention in this way. The Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nanos, has said the matter is being treated as a criminal investigation. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are assisting in the case.
Messages received by TMZ add a new layer to the high-profile investigation. Authorities have said that she was likely taken from her Tucson‑area home against her will on the night of January 31.

It’s been years since a high-profile abduction case with an alleged ransom demand has captured the nation’s attention in this way. The Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nanos, has said the matter is being treated as a criminal investigation. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are assisting in the case.

All information TMZ has received on Nancy Guthrie case

TMZ has been contacted multiple times by email by an individual who says they know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie, and her location.

www.newsweek.com

 

[steff13]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

Identifying the DNA is how they'll identify who has her.

 

[Spectrix]

Even if DNA is a match, what does it prove, nothing. It creates a person of interest, who then has to be investigated, evidence gathered, and finally, getting a judge to sign a search warrant...all the while the 84 year old woman is somewhere incapacitated without her medication, and possibly food and water.

Matching DNA from a glove to a person of interest would be a significant leap.
Just for example - Analyzing the suspect's car GPS could point to a journey out into the hills with a stop somewhere where a body may have been disposed of.
Or he's got an 84 year old lady locked up in his basement.

Never discount the relevance of DNA, there's a reason it's relied upon to help solve many crimes.

 

[RayVon]

I think you’ve made a good point. IMO that person was clearing the exit. I think someone said ‘that person’ knocked on the door ( cancel that if I’m off track, as my mind is all over the place with this awful situation)
However, if so, the only reason I can see for a knock on the door is to alert the inside accomplice that the coast is clear.

Possibly, but then he didn't appear to be in any hurry to leave the home.

 

[steff13]

If I had to guess, he probably drover her into the desert, bound her and left her there. That is why finding her is a priority. It is extremely unlikely he still has her.

If she's been left in the desert this long, it's extremely unlikely she's still alive. MOO

 

[Cassie P]

Possibly, but then he didn't appear to be in any hurry to leave the home.

Perhaps he was not in a hurry because he was waiting for the accomplice inside the home to bring NG to the front of the house.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Once again, this is a highly complicated case. With very strong emotions felt by Nancy’s family. Sounds like a case where fear and superstition is trumping science and technology once again. (My opinion only)

I’m not really sure of what message you are trying to convey. Science and technology are okay . In fact, I believe the U.S. military and technology could find any of us any day they want to. They have had that technology a long time. There is some reason why Nancy hasn’t been found. That’s where my sadness comes from. Moo.

Fear is more than normal and acceptable for this family. When it comes to missing children and old people who are defenseless, these crimes are indefensible.

So why would you say “fear and superstition is bumping science and technology, once again”? Strange wording.

Or maybe I have misunderstood you. JMO.

 

[osu]

The things your mention are what made me think this is a mask/disguise. Really unnatural. Brow does not arch towards the nose, it goes straight across all the way to the center of the nose, but not in a unibrow sort of way.

Almost looks like they shaved or covered their own brows with tape, and then glued on fake brows. And also fake lashes, with mascara and eyeliner.

Agree, there are very realistic silicone masks. This one has eyeliner, lashes and has hooded eyes.

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