AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[pulchra73]

Consent for "FBI and police to use" Ancestry doesn't currently allow police officials to access public DNA . However Gedmatch does with prior consent by the consumer, currently The rights to DNA in the UK at least is private to the owner and you can refuse to give consent. This is also why police collect evidence from discarded rubbish, to get around this issue
I believe however once a match is proven they can get a warrant to get further conclusive evidence.

I cant remember what I consented to on GedMatch now. Just looked on ancestry and it was just scientific stuff.

 

[Warshawski]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Day 16 latest updates

Over the weekend, authorities said they were awaiting final lab results for a glove found near the 84-year-old's residence that appears to match the masked suspect's glove in the surveillance video.

www.fox10phoenix.com

2/16/2026


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Are they the same person ?

 

[Gunther Toody]

The purpose of the DNA search is to identify a suspect. Once LE has a suspect, they can narrow down their search significantly. And they can interview the suspect to gain information about the whereabouts of NG.

This is the whole point about the DNA and gloves.

In this situation the DNA first approach is not the best way to go. This was a disorganized offender who, in my opinion set out to pull off a burglary that went wrong. She probably recognized his voice from a previous encounter, either as a service person or even a neighbor and he panicked. His options...run and get caught later, or take control of the witness, which he did.

Just as surely, he separated himself from her as quickly as possible because it was never the plan to take her...he was forced to for self-preservation. It is the same mindset that a killer suffers when his only goal is to distance himself from the crime scene as quickly as possible.

If I had to guess, he probably drover her into the desert, bound her and left her there. That is why finding her is a priority. It is extremely unlikely he still has her.

Even if DNA is a match, what does it prove, nothing. It creates a person of interest, who then has to be investigated, evidence gathered, and finally, getting a judge to sign a search warrant...all the while the 84 year old woman is somewhere incapacitated without her medication, and possibly food and water.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Maybe the garage entrance to the house was closer to a closet, bathroom or her bedroom. She also probably didn't have to deal with stairs. Moo

Some keep the front door as “formal” entry for guests & visitors so it’s not cluttered with shoes, bags and jackets. Garage entry is where family dumps bags, car keys, shoes etc out of sight.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

With all of these people that are getting on social media rendering their opinions and their thoughts, investigators have to take time from their investigation and assign people to follow those leads up because they all have to be followed,” Carrillo said. “Every one of them has to be vetted out.”

Carrillo was instrumental in capturing California’s infamous serial killer known as “The Night Stalker” in the 1980s.

Carrillo said every person in the media and online is responsible for shared information.

“Whether it be a newspaper, magazine, social media, they put that stuff out there, and it goes there without vetting it; it just stops the investigation,” Carrillo said.

Rampant misinformation can be roadblock for investigators in Nancy Guthrie case

The story has captured international attention, and misinformation from unverified sources about Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance remains rampant.

www.azfamily.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Law enforcement is working with a device known as a “signal sniffer” that uses an amplifier to find Bluetooth signals and identify the unique MAC [Media Access Control] address of Guthrie’s pacemaker using a directional antenna.

“It’s got software running in it, continuously scans, and if it doesn’t recognize (hers), it just eliminates it until it locks onto the right one,” said Morgan Wright, CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases.

Wright, who also analyzes true crime cases on Substack, said the process is similar to walking around with Guthrie’s cellphone and waiting for a Bluetooth connection request but on a much larger scale

FBI using ‘signal sniffer’ technology to search for Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker

The FBI's use of new technology could be a turning point in narrowing down the timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and where she might be now.

www.fox19.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Messages received by TMZ add a new layer to the high-profile investigation. Authorities have said that she was likely taken from her Tucson‑area home against her will on the night of January 31.

It’s been years since a high-profile abduction case with an alleged ransom demand has captured the nation’s attention in this way. The Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nanos, has said the matter is being treated as a criminal investigation. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are assisting in the case.
Messages received by TMZ add a new layer to the high-profile investigation. Authorities have said that she was likely taken from her Tucson‑area home against her will on the night of January 31.

It’s been years since a high-profile abduction case with an alleged ransom demand has captured the nation’s attention in this way. The Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nanos, has said the matter is being treated as a criminal investigation. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are assisting in the case.

All information TMZ has received on Nancy Guthrie case

TMZ has been contacted multiple times by email by an individual who says they know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie, and her location.

www.newsweek.com

 

[steff13]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

Identifying the DNA is how they'll identify who has her.

 

[Spectrix]

Even if DNA is a match, what does it prove, nothing. It creates a person of interest, who then has to be investigated, evidence gathered, and finally, getting a judge to sign a search warrant...all the while the 84 year old woman is somewhere incapacitated without her medication, and possibly food and water.

Matching DNA from a glove to a person of interest would be a significant leap.
Just for example - Analyzing the suspect's car GPS could point to a journey out into the hills with a stop somewhere where a body may have been disposed of.
Or he's got an 84 year old lady locked up in his basement.

Never discount the relevance of DNA, there's a reason it's relied upon to help solve many crimes.

 

[RayVon]

I think you’ve made a good point. IMO that person was clearing the exit. I think someone said ‘that person’ knocked on the door ( cancel that if I’m off track, as my mind is all over the place with this awful situation)
However, if so, the only reason I can see for a knock on the door is to alert the inside accomplice that the coast is clear.

Possibly, but then he didn't appear to be in any hurry to leave the home.

 

[steff13]

If I had to guess, he probably drover her into the desert, bound her and left her there. That is why finding her is a priority. It is extremely unlikely he still has her.

If she's been left in the desert this long, it's extremely unlikely she's still alive. MOO

 

[Cassie P]

Possibly, but then he didn't appear to be in any hurry to leave the home.

Perhaps he was not in a hurry because he was waiting for the accomplice inside the home to bring NG to the front of the house.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Once again, this is a highly complicated case. With very strong emotions felt by Nancy’s family. Sounds like a case where fear and superstition is trumping science and technology once again. (My opinion only)

I’m not really sure of what message you are trying to convey. Science and technology are okay . In fact, I believe the U.S. military and technology could find any of us any day they want to. They have had that technology a long time. There is some reason why Nancy hasn’t been found. That’s where my sadness comes from. Moo.

Fear is more than normal and acceptable for this family. When it comes to missing children and old people who are defenseless, these crimes are indefensible.

So why would you say “fear and superstition is bumping science and technology, once again”? Strange wording.

Or maybe I have misunderstood you. JMO.

 

[osu]

The things your mention are what made me think this is a mask/disguise. Really unnatural. Brow does not arch towards the nose, it goes straight across all the way to the center of the nose, but not in a unibrow sort of way.

Almost looks like they shaved or covered their own brows with tape, and then glued on fake brows. And also fake lashes, with mascara and eyeliner.

Agree, there are very realistic silicone masks. This one has eyeliner, lashes and has hooded eyes.

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[Warshawski]

I could see many reasons. He has a criminal record. He doesn't trust police. He's afraid his identity will be leaked. He could be a co-conspirator in Nancy's kidnapping. He knows providing insider knowledge of the crime scene puts a giant target on his back and whoever else is involved will take him out.

So his ransom note is all over the TV / World, and not for the first time. In it he talks about what he saw ‘5 days ago’, and what was said to him etc etc. across the border.

He’s scared about being fingered for his 10 year old burglary rap, but seems his not scared about the fate he might suffer at hands of NG’s kidnappers for ratting on them !!

This can’t be genuine, imo.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time tomfocus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

Just curious -- how would you suggest they find her without using DNA and "potentially extraneous evidence?" I'm not being facetious, I would really like to know. In your opinion, is there a better and quicker way?

 

[Gunther Toody]

If she's been left in the desert this long, it's extremely unlikely she's still alive. MOO

Exactly, and that is why, in my opinion, locating her is the top priority.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

IMO they already know or have a strong suspicion about who did this. They’re just waiting to be sure they have what’s necessary to make the arrest. Leads me to believe they have reason to think NG is either no longer alive or is at a lower risk than it may seem (abductor may be acquaintanced or sympathetic). I hope it’s the second but I will continue to hope that until we know otherwise. I think these perpetrators are likely experienced criminals but this is a leap of severity in crime. MOO

Hope we see some movement on the case today!

 

[Marzipan]

I guess this would fit in with #2:

Someone who worked for her that had committed some kind of fraud that she was going to report, and felt they had to silence her.

Oh, I agree. Those closest to a victim know they have to be looked at. But the SIL faced harsh scrutiny from the press, forums and social media, IMO. Ashleigh Banfield called him out as guilty from jump. That’s a whole different ball

Given that both the households raided by SWAT so far have involved men who live with their mothers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they believe there's a woman out there who suspects her son may be involved but is afraid to come forward

I don’t know the details and am not asking, but, do we know if these two men and/or the women know one another?

 

[steff13]

Exactly, and that is why, in my opinion, locating her is the top priority.

Which is exactly why the DNA is vital.