AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Warshawski]

I could see many reasons. He has a criminal record. He doesn't trust police. He's afraid his identity will be leaked. He could be a co-conspirator in Nancy's kidnapping. He knows providing insider knowledge of the crime scene puts a giant target on his back and whoever else is involved will take him out.

So his ransom note is all over the TV / World, and not for the first time. In it he talks about what he saw ‘5 days ago’, and what was said to him etc etc. across the border.

He’s scared about being fingered for his 10 year old burglary rap, but seems his not scared about the fate he might suffer at hands of NG’s kidnappers for ratting on them !!

This can’t be genuine, imo.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time tomfocus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

Just curious -- how would you suggest they find her without using DNA and "potentially extraneous evidence?" I'm not being facetious, I would really like to know. In your opinion, is there a better and quicker way?

 

[Gunther Toody]

If she's been left in the desert this long, it's extremely unlikely she's still alive. MOO

Exactly, and that is why, in my opinion, locating her is the top priority.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

IMO they already know or have a strong suspicion about who did this. They’re just waiting to be sure they have what’s necessary to make the arrest. Leads me to believe they have reason to think NG is either no longer alive or is at a lower risk than it may seem (abductor may be acquaintanced or sympathetic). I hope it’s the second but I will continue to hope that until we know otherwise. I think these perpetrators are likely experienced criminals but this is a leap of severity in crime. MOO

Hope we see some movement on the case today!

 

[Marzipan]

I guess this would fit in with #2:

Someone who worked for her that had committed some kind of fraud that she was going to report, and felt they had to silence her.

Oh, I agree. Those closest to a victim know they have to be looked at. But the SIL faced harsh scrutiny from the press, forums and social media, IMO. Ashleigh Banfield called him out as guilty from jump. That’s a whole different ball

Given that both the households raided by SWAT so far have involved men who live with their mothers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they believe there's a woman out there who suspects her son may be involved but is afraid to come forward

I don’t know the details and am not asking, but, do we know if these two men and/or the women know one another?

 

[steff13]

Exactly, and that is why, in my opinion, locating her is the top priority.

Which is exactly why the DNA is vital.

 

[rebel123]

Conversations about DNA, gloves and other potentially extraneous evidence are all well and good, but this woman has been gone for over 16 days. If she is still alive, finding her should take precedence over everything.

She is surely not in good health at this point. Once found, there is plenty of time to focus on DNA, it isn't going anywhere. I have to believe the police realize this and are working behind the scenes to locate her.

I think you're 'putting the cart before the horse'. Get the DNA analysed, find the 'culprit', get the information and find NG. Yes the 'clock is ticking', it has been from day one.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

I don’t know the details and am not asking, but, do we know if these two men and/or the women know one another?

I’ve seen no indication there is a connection between them. The second swat situation is rumored to have a connection to NG. It has not been reported by MSM however.

 

[Justice101]

I don't hold out much hope for the DNA found on glove on property in her neighborhood. Reason being, lots of gardeners, pool people, HVAC, light construction, etc have gloves and other debris fall out of the beds of pick up trucks all the time. But maybe it was a "fresh" glove and (hopefully) from the perpetrator.

A similar road I drive on you can see gloves and other trash occasionally. Would someone that took the time to hide their identity like they did be so stupid as to haphazardly throw one them out the window having done everything else pretty well? I doubt it... they would keep them on then throw them away (or keep it ) with their other stuff to later discard in a trash bin etc. That's just my take on it.

This case is perplexing in that there are some people on here that think the perpetrator was a buffoon for picking flowers and putting in front of the camera lens... but I don't think they realize that the guy has managed to keep himself from being identified with the best and brightest of investigators on the scene and using every forensic tool imaginable to find him. Sadly for Nancy, he was actually smart in several ways.

Having said that, I still believe there is no perfect crime.. Eventually, he (or they) will be identified and arrested at some point is my firm belief.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Just curious -- how would you suggest they find her without using DNA and "potentially extraneous evidence?" I'm not being facetious, I would really like to know. Is there a better and quicker way?

There are SAR teams readily available to assist in this type of situation.
If this was a panic-driven abduction with rapid abandonment, a practical SAR approach wouldn’t start with huge desert grids - it would start with roads and exits.

First, identify every likely vehicle escape route from Nancy’s neighborhood during the 1–2 AM. window, then check nearby cameras and license-plate readers to determine vehicle movements

Ground teams would quickly inspect pull-offs, dirt spurs, turnarounds, and wash crossings along those routes for fresh tire tracks or disturbed sand, while drones with thermal imaging fly pre-dawn over shoulders, arroyos, shaded edges, and low depressions where someone could be left within minutes of stopping.

Vehicle abandonments likely happen close to accessible roads, not miles into open desert, so the search should follow corridors, not circles, expanding outward after clearing the internal sites.

 

[DizzyB]

One of the data banks LE uses has some data from other much larger genetic genealogy sites. People who test at the main genetic genealogy sites can upload their DNA data to one of the sites now used by LE.

This one LE site started out many years ago as just a regular GG site with some fancy tools and helpful ways to analyze data.
People would download their data from the other main sites to use these tools.

Then it became part of an LE data bank. Most people still kept their DNA at the site. But you had to opt in or out of the LE use of the data. Many people thought, hey if a relative of mine commits a crime, I am not protecting them so they left their DNA sample at the LE site.

And regular people still use this site to analyze their DNA. (I was just on this site the other day, helping a cousin analyze their DNA data.)

So say if you doing your DNA investigation at this one LE DNA site, you can see where the matches have come in terms of other DNA sites. You can see some of the family trees, and then you can hightail it over to those other sites and find more extensive trees for those matches. So you can kind of back door things a bit.

This LE site will give you family surnames, birth locations of ancestors, etc. So you can narrow it down right off the bat.

I used to do adoption searches, it is the same procedure LE uses for criminal investigation.

Is the glove DNA actually connected to this case? That’s my concern. Tying the same “type” of glove that was not from the scene is a stretch for me, unless it also contained Nancy’s DNA (and maybe lantana). If DNA was found on her bedsheets or somewhere in the house that strongly implicated participation in the crime, I’d be more hopeful.

I’m not sure how much LE plays by the opt-in rules of genealogical sites. “Standing” is interesting-if LE got a familial match to the perpetrator and built a tree, then got a warrant for suspect DNA, the family member would be the person whose DNA was matched, possibly without their consent. So they would be the only party aggrieved. Don’t think it falls under fruit from the poisoned tree. This was a Kohberger discussion.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Which is exactly why the DNA is vital.

Okay, you have a match...then what?
Do you think the guy is just sitting at home watching the game on TV?
Or, is it more likely he is on the run due to all the notoriety in the case, making locating him very difficult...while in the mean time, her clock is ticking downward.

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023719698421133672

 

[steff13]

Apologies if this has been shared, but Brian Entin got info that the FBI has a list of 40 names that they've been taking to local gun stores to see if they've been in to purchase a gun.

 

[VioletBoxcar]

Law enforcement is working with a device known as a “signal sniffer” that uses an amplifier to find Bluetooth signals and identify the unique MAC [Media Access Control] address of Guthrie’s pacemaker using a directional antenna.

“It’s got software running in it, continuously scans, and if it doesn’t recognize (hers), it just eliminates it until it locks onto the right one,” said Morgan Wright, CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases.

Wright, who also analyzes true crime cases on Substack, said the process is similar to walking around with Guthrie’s cellphone and waiting for a Bluetooth connection request but on a much larger scale

FBI using ‘signal sniffer’ technology to search for Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker

The FBI's use of new technology could be a turning point in narrowing down the timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and where she might be now.

www.fox19.com

The pacemaker does not have a MAC address. The bed side monitor that sends info to her medical team does but it’s not with her.

 

[steff13]

Okay, you have a match...then what?
Do you think the guy is just sitting at home watching the game on TV?
Or, is it more likely he is on the run due to all the notoriety in the case, making locating him very difficult...while in the mean time, her clock is ticking downward.

If you have a match then you have a name of a person to look for. Without it the suspect list is literally everyone.

 

[tkcrockett]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023590291765129405

watching this i wondered for the first time if he used the lantana as another layer of fingerprint protection??

 

[K9Enzo]

Ms. N Guthrie is in NamUs. imo

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I posted NG's Namus profile last night without any context. Namus is a crucial LE tool for missing people and unidentified remains. It allows LE to connect information across agencies, all around the country. I suspect that one of NG children provided their own DNA to put into NG Namus profile in the event remains are found clear across the country that could sadly be NG. I'm sure NG own DNA has been entered as well. IMO

PCSO entered her right away on *Feb 1, 2026. Good on them. IMO

From NG profile: Missing Person / NamUs #MP155182

Circumstances of Disappearance
Nancy Guthrie was reported missing by family members on February 1, 2026. She was last seen on the evening of January 31, 2026, at approximately 2148 hrs. (9:45 pm) at her residence. Her last known clothing description is unknown. Personal belongings, including her cellphone and purse, were left behind at the residence. Nancy Guthrie has multiple medical conditions that may place her at increased risk.

ETA: Correction PCSO entered her on *Feb 9, 2026

 

[Gunther Toody]

If you have a match then you have a name of a person to look for. Without it the suspect list is literally everyone.

Are you going on the premise that he still has her? I am not. I believe that he abandoned her within several minutes to a few hours after taking her. I base this on the disorganized nature of the crime itself.

 

[steff13]

Are you going on the premise that he still has her? I am not. I believe that he abandoned her within several minutes to a few hours after taking her. I base this on the disorganized nature of the crime itself.

I'm going on the premise that he knows where she is. Whether he has her or not is really neither here nor there. There are obviously other avenues of evidence that need to be explored but the importance of the DNA cannot be overstated.

ETA: IMO, she's been dead since before anyone knew she was missing.