AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[milkshakedonkey]

I don’t know the details and am not asking, but, do we know if these two men and/or the women know one another?

I’ve seen no indication there is a connection between them. The second swat situation is rumored to have a connection to NG. It has not been reported by MSM however.

 

[Justice101]

I don't hold out much hope for the DNA found on glove on property in her neighborhood. Reason being, lots of gardeners, pool people, HVAC, light construction, etc have gloves and other debris fall out of the beds of pick up trucks all the time. But maybe it was a "fresh" glove and (hopefully) from the perpetrator.

A similar road I drive on you can see gloves and other trash occasionally. Would someone that took the time to hide their identity like they did be so stupid as to haphazardly throw one them out the window having done everything else pretty well? I doubt it... they would keep them on then throw them away (or keep it ) with their other stuff to later discard in a trash bin etc. That's just my take on it.

This case is perplexing in that there are some people on here that think the perpetrator was a buffoon for picking flowers and putting in front of the camera lens... but I don't think they realize that the guy has managed to keep himself from being identified with the best and brightest of investigators on the scene and using every forensic tool imaginable to find him. Sadly for Nancy, he was actually smart in several ways.

Having said that, I still believe there is no perfect crime.. Eventually, he (or they) will be identified and arrested at some point is my firm belief.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Just curious -- how would you suggest they find her without using DNA and "potentially extraneous evidence?" I'm not being facetious, I would really like to know. Is there a better and quicker way?

There are SAR teams readily available to assist in this type of situation.
If this was a panic-driven abduction with rapid abandonment, a practical SAR approach wouldn’t start with huge desert grids - it would start with roads and exits.

First, identify every likely vehicle escape route from Nancy’s neighborhood during the 1–2 AM. window, then check nearby cameras and license-plate readers to determine vehicle movements

Ground teams would quickly inspect pull-offs, dirt spurs, turnarounds, and wash crossings along those routes for fresh tire tracks or disturbed sand, while drones with thermal imaging fly pre-dawn over shoulders, arroyos, shaded edges, and low depressions where someone could be left within minutes of stopping.

Vehicle abandonments likely happen close to accessible roads, not miles into open desert, so the search should follow corridors, not circles, expanding outward after clearing the internal sites.

 

[DizzyB]

One of the data banks LE uses has some data from other much larger genetic genealogy sites. People who test at the main genetic genealogy sites can upload their DNA data to one of the sites now used by LE.

This one LE site started out many years ago as just a regular GG site with some fancy tools and helpful ways to analyze data.
People would download their data from the other main sites to use these tools.

Then it became part of an LE data bank. Most people still kept their DNA at the site. But you had to opt in or out of the LE use of the data. Many people thought, hey if a relative of mine commits a crime, I am not protecting them so they left their DNA sample at the LE site.

And regular people still use this site to analyze their DNA. (I was just on this site the other day, helping a cousin analyze their DNA data.)

So say if you doing your DNA investigation at this one LE DNA site, you can see where the matches have come in terms of other DNA sites. You can see some of the family trees, and then you can hightail it over to those other sites and find more extensive trees for those matches. So you can kind of back door things a bit.

This LE site will give you family surnames, birth locations of ancestors, etc. So you can narrow it down right off the bat.

I used to do adoption searches, it is the same procedure LE uses for criminal investigation.

Is the glove DNA actually connected to this case? That’s my concern. Tying the same “type” of glove that was not from the scene is a stretch for me, unless it also contained Nancy’s DNA (and maybe lantana). If DNA was found on her bedsheets or somewhere in the house that strongly implicated participation in the crime, I’d be more hopeful.

I’m not sure how much LE plays by the opt-in rules of genealogical sites. “Standing” is interesting-if LE got a familial match to the perpetrator and built a tree, then got a warrant for suspect DNA, the family member would be the person whose DNA was matched, possibly without their consent. So they would be the only party aggrieved. Don’t think it falls under fruit from the poisoned tree. This was a Kohberger discussion.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Which is exactly why the DNA is vital.

Okay, you have a match...then what?
Do you think the guy is just sitting at home watching the game on TV?
Or, is it more likely he is on the run due to all the notoriety in the case, making locating him very difficult...while in the mean time, her clock is ticking downward.

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023719698421133672

 

[steff13]

Apologies if this has been shared, but Brian Entin got info that the FBI has a list of 40 names that they've been taking to local gun stores to see if they've been in to purchase a gun.

 

[VioletBoxcar]

Law enforcement is working with a device known as a “signal sniffer” that uses an amplifier to find Bluetooth signals and identify the unique MAC [Media Access Control] address of Guthrie’s pacemaker using a directional antenna.

“It’s got software running in it, continuously scans, and if it doesn’t recognize (hers), it just eliminates it until it locks onto the right one,” said Morgan Wright, CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases.

Wright, who also analyzes true crime cases on Substack, said the process is similar to walking around with Guthrie’s cellphone and waiting for a Bluetooth connection request but on a much larger scale

FBI using ‘signal sniffer’ technology to search for Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker

The FBI's use of new technology could be a turning point in narrowing down the timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and where she might be now.

www.fox19.com

The pacemaker does not have a MAC address. The bed side monitor that sends info to her medical team does but it’s not with her.

 

[steff13]

Okay, you have a match...then what?
Do you think the guy is just sitting at home watching the game on TV?
Or, is it more likely he is on the run due to all the notoriety in the case, making locating him very difficult...while in the mean time, her clock is ticking downward.

If you have a match then you have a name of a person to look for. Without it the suspect list is literally everyone.

 

[tkcrockett]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023590291765129405

watching this i wondered for the first time if he used the lantana as another layer of fingerprint protection??

 

[K9Enzo]

Ms. N Guthrie is in NamUs. imo

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I posted NG's Namus profile last night without any context. Namus is a crucial LE tool for missing people and unidentified remains. It allows LE to connect information across agencies, all around the country. I suspect that one of NG children provided their own DNA to put into NG Namus profile in the event remains are found clear across the country that could sadly be NG. I'm sure NG own DNA has been entered as well. IMO

PCSO entered her right away on *Feb 1, 2026. Good on them. IMO

From NG profile: Missing Person / NamUs #MP155182

Circumstances of Disappearance
Nancy Guthrie was reported missing by family members on February 1, 2026. She was last seen on the evening of January 31, 2026, at approximately 2148 hrs. (9:45 pm) at her residence. Her last known clothing description is unknown. Personal belongings, including her cellphone and purse, were left behind at the residence. Nancy Guthrie has multiple medical conditions that may place her at increased risk.

ETA: Correction PCSO entered her on *Feb 9, 2026

 

[Gunther Toody]

If you have a match then you have a name of a person to look for. Without it the suspect list is literally everyone.

Are you going on the premise that he still has her? I am not. I believe that he abandoned her within several minutes to a few hours after taking her. I base this on the disorganized nature of the crime itself.

 

[steff13]

Are you going on the premise that he still has her? I am not. I believe that he abandoned her within several minutes to a few hours after taking her. I base this on the disorganized nature of the crime itself.

I'm going on the premise that he knows where she is. Whether he has her or not is really neither here nor there. There are obviously other avenues of evidence that need to be explored but the importance of the DNA cannot be overstated.

ETA: IMO, she's been dead since before anyone knew she was missing.

 

[Napoli]

I think the unknown male DNA found in NG's house is the best lead they have atm because it's linked to the crime scene. In saying that, we don't have enough information to determine how important this DNA is as it's dependant on where it was found and what type of sample it is, i.e. hair, skin, blood or other bodily fluids.

If I were LE, i'd be wanting to try and identify the donor by using genetic genealogy on the sample. I'm sort of hoping that they're being quiet about it because they are working on the sample.

Genetic DNA is tricky and we have to hope that the person matches even a 5th cousin in the pool. THEN, a tree has to be built. This is time consuming and cumbersome. You cant just push a button and get a tree. If he matches someone as a son, a first or second cousin, a nephew, then of course , it's easier. But a tree, even a smaller one, would need to be built. The results for this is somewhere down the line, IMO Weeks..at the very best. MOO

 

[Napoli]

Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?

Yes we can. IMO. Plus, listen to what is NOT being said. MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

As i understand they can't use the few biggest databases for genealogy tho. I hope they still find a match in the other databanks
(From 13 minute mark on)

Great interview.
Moo.. Sheriff should have used the FBI lab !!! Delays in vetting the DNA quality before can be entered into Codis. Most importantly, per the interview… private labs have limits on DNA data bases. The FBI has greater resources, they can use all federal data bases, including border patrol and access to records to connect family in tracking/tracing.

 

[Gunther Toody]

I'm going on the premise that he knows where she is. Whether he has her or not is really neither here nor there. There are obviously other avenues of evidence that need to be explored but the importance of the DNA cannot be overstated.

ETA: IMO, she's been dead since before anyone knew she was missing.

I agree. He surely knows where she is. There are other avenues of evidence that need exploration and I also think at this point it is more a recovery mission, rather than a rescue.

I get the rescue approach LE is using, because one the narrative shifts to recovery...the entire case dynamic shifts, tips dry up, and new evidence unlikely.

 

[Silverstorm]

I feel like the suspect on NG porch was wearing a Columbia Ascenda from walmart. Different versions of all parts of his jacket can be seen in Columbia jackets. Have they said what his exact jacket was?

columbia jacket for men - Walmart Business

columbia jacket for men - Walmart Business

business.walmart.com

 

[No it’s not]

I believe in 2 things.

A. That 2 pounds of beef make a good soup

B. That our FBI is one of the most capable advanced elite law enforcement organizations using cutting edge technology

Things may be vastly different front what they look. They will find their suspect. They will find closure for the family - one way or another. Having said that it is absolutely heartbreaking that an innocent 84 y old woman has to go through all of this. Same goes for her family. Devastation and life changing. And for what? And for what..?

Prayers for Nancy and her family.

-Nin

 

[Silverstorm]