AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sessiebo]

People are not allowed to watch him? I do not understand what is not allwoed?

He is not a verified source.
He is a convicted fraud IIRC.
Just google him, should tell you all you need to know.

JMO

 

[Laura Avery]

I don't know if everyone has access to this however, I found this part interesting
"Investigators are now employing new strategies to try to trace Guthrie. They are using a device that could detect signals coming from her pacemaker, law enforcement sources told CBS.

The sources said the tool, called a "signal sniffer", was mounted on a helicopter to fly over an area where officials believe she might be, to track down her exact location."

Sheriff says Nancy Guthrie family cleared as suspects, with search in its third week

Local police say the missing woman's relatives are victims - and "to suggest otherwise is not only wrong, it is cruel".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Monepone]

I think most contentions are that they were impractical and incongruous. It's not about criminal chic but rather use and dependability and informed choices. Everything about this guy was unnecessarily over-convoluted.

--All that PPE yet use a saliva transferring bite light in your mouth?? Yeesh.

--Mismatched holster with awkward off the belt loop approx. of appendix carry--that gun would fumble right out if he had to move quickly or run. That cheap mismatched holster a great disadvantage if encountered by anyone. So it was basically just for looks or a place to put the gun (conceal carry would be much simpler and more effective).

--Bulky nitrile gloves (or double gloved) huge disadvantage in using the firearm, provided he can even fit his finger in the trigger guard. Awkward for general use and handling things (i.e. removing the camera, fumbling with the Latanas.)

--Identifiable cheap backpack. ? - well, at least cover the brand, etc. which is now one of the biggest leads as it is exclusively sold by one store. Reflective strips on the backpack, what are you trying to glow on the IR night cams everyone has these days?? Cheap. you trust it to put your kit in there you have it stuffed full, those cheapos burst seams all the time, spilling your kit into the night. Even hikers would not trust that pack on a trail, much less some criminal nights op.

There's a reason pros (of all sorts, hikers, mil, LEO, gun guys, ranchers) use quality gear and it ain't for style points its for dependability and function.

And IMO it all just points to this all being staged to look like something it wasn't. Either its has been (masterfully) staged to look like a bumbling idiot kidnapped her, or it was hastily/sloppily staged to make it look like a legit kidnapping.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Some former FBI dude on a podcast said that the perp wasn’t sophisticated because they shopped at Walmart. Um, where do they think people shop? He intimated that the car couldn’t have belonged to them because it was expensive and the perp shops at Walmart. I swear some of these people are completely out of touch with reality. How many stores do they think are out there outside of shopping online? If you’re getting supplies to commit crimes, I doubt you’re going to buy the stuff from boutiques. You could theorize that the person breaking in is not economically well off because a wealthy person would be less likely to commit robbery, but we don’t even know that it was robbery. It could be SA, or a murder for hire. Some of these talking heads, I swear.

FBI guy is right. Sophisticated criminals steal their gear or pay with cash at flea markets.

If Walmart is the perps “Criminal Depot”, he’s not sophisticated.

MOO

 

[milkshakedonkey]

So people can't choose what they want to watch? This is very confusing as I find it very enjoyable to watch him. I understand that reporting what he might say as a source on here is not allowed but people should be able to watch him if they want, no? I understand that fact based sourcing with credible sources is only allowed but the violation would be posting something from him, not simply watching his stream.

No one cares what anyone watches. You cannot LINK to it here or mention his content. It is not approved for media.

 

[MesquiteO21]

I'd imagine they are just questioning a witness again, going over statements. At this point, Im not sure its worth getting too committed to this info.

Had an idea for a scenario, possibly. Man rings door bell, then uses flowers to obsure camera. Nancy answers, "Who's there?", he then reveals himself (Removes the flowers) and shows her the gun, forcing her to open the door or shoot her through it? Still working on a motive.

I’ve also floated the idea that he used the flowers to try to lure her to the door but I’m just not sure. If she saw something weird on the cam would she really open the door to see what it was, as an 84 year old woman living alone at 1-2am? But I suppose it’s possible, if she’s felt comfortable and safe in that house and neighborhood for all these years.

moo

 

[elmomom]

I'm posting for people who might be interested in watching his live stream. If they report something back here then it might be a violation but people have the right to watch him, just like they have the right to watch FOX, Newsnation, et al.

People have the right to do whatever they want, off websleuths. On here, following the rules are required. This is a private website, no rights are being violated.

 

[LarryLujack]

Regardless of your opinion, it is not allowed here to link to unapproved media.

As a source, I understand that.

 

[keek]

Sure, but people can still watch his stream. The violation would be posting something based on what he says?

Yes, WS allows some verified and qualified to them sources to be shown here or quoted etc. NOT all and this Youtuber is not allowed to have his vids or quotes on here for WS'S reasons. I'd delete them to just get rid of the issue. You def can watch on your OWN device. IMO

 

[teeandcee]

JMO, it's not about economic status but this belief from LE is because Walmart (and other big box stores) have a very sophisticated SKU tracking system, purchase records, etc., along with hi-tech camera systems throughout all their stores that can often pin point who purchased the backpack. This process was used to help narrow and track down Kohberger and prove his purchase of the K-Bar knife from Amazon.

Right. Walmart catches almost as many criminals LE. I’m assuming even big box home stores have the same tracking and video abilities, although they don’t have clothing and gun accessories.

I can’t think of where a criminal could put together a crime kit besides Walmart while thinking he’s staying anonymous.

 

[Sessiebo]

Sure, but people can still watch his stream. The violation would be posting something based on what he says?

He is a convicted fraud, google his wiki or something.
He is not a verified source therefore not allowed.
Please remove the link to his yt in your post.
Thank you.

 

[Monepone]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023872882842259489

That will only work if they actually have the perp's DNA, which I'm still skeptical of.

 

[LarryLujack]

People have the right to do whatever they want, off websleuths. On here, following the rules are required. This is a private website, no rights are being violated.

I agree 100%.

 

[LarryLujack]

You posted a link to his content here. We are trying to express that you cannot talk about his content here.
Rules - Etiquette & Information

I read and do not see any violation. Anyway, I will stop posting.

 

[jenimeni23]

Dbm, duplicate comment

 

[K.jill]

Imo we should report a post that is a violation of the rules here. Every time you reply to that post or quote is it another one mods have to deal with.
Report and move on is what I do.

 

[elmomom]

Right. Walmart catches almost as many criminals LE. I’m assuming even big box home stores have the same tracking and video abilities, although they don’t have clothing and gun accessories.

I can’t think of where a criminal could put together a crime kit besides Walmart while thinking he’s staying anonymous.

One could easily put together a kit by shopping at multiple places like HD, Lowe’s, Walmart, Target Dick’s and the local supermarket. Purchase of one thing at each location would make tracing a “kit” much more difficult.

 

[Laura Avery]

I’ve also floated the idea that he used the flowers to try to lure her to the door but I’m just not sure. If she saw something weird on the cam would she really open the door to see what it was, as an 84 year old woman living alone at 1-2am? But I suppose it’s possible, if she’s felt comfortable and safe in that house and neighborhood for all these years.

moo

Yes..I don't know if I would either, and I live in a very safe area of the UK, with a husband and three young adult men, and an A-hole cat! But they can also pick up audios..one way I believe, so not recording if not linked to a sub, so she may have recognised the voice or maybe someone lied?

 

[cherryleaf]

He is not a verified source.
He is a convicted fraud IIRC.
Just google him, should tell you all you need to know.

JMO

Too bad we can’t trade him for NG safe return

MOO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I wouldn't read too much into whether people have been "cleared" or not... I've heard detectives on podcasts and shows say many times that their policy is to never "clear" suspects, at least not until their investigation is finished. I think the FBI is saying the professional thing to say. I think Nanos does not prescribe to that particular train of thought. All MOO.

IMO, the Sheriff was able to clear the family--all 3 children & their spouses--because they have zeroed in on a suspect(s) for whom they have evidence of them being at the crime scene.

It seems there's a good chance that LE has got these suspects under extensive surveillance while LE continues to gather and confirm their evidence to prove in court that these suspects committed this crime and to ensure they have a rock solid case that will lead to a conviction.

JMHO