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How is this relevant to THIS case? jmo
I read it as LE might be bluffing about where they are in the investigation. JMO
 
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An elderly woman was abducted from her home, which is one of the rarest demographics for kidnappings, and we still have no idea what the motive is.
Definitely rare, but it brings to mind the Dermond murders from several years ago. Elderly couple in their 80s, he was murdered and decapitated and she was abducted. IIRC her body was eventually found having been dumped in a lake.

No motive, looked at family but nothing, no known enemies, etc. Elderly couple in a very affluent gated community, to this day no one knows who did it or why. Brutal attack and no answers.

I hope in this case the family gets answers. JMO
 
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Full 15 min interview with Sheriff Nanos today:


I just finished the video and maybe I missed it but I didn't hear Sheriff Nanos make the statement himself that Nancy was last seen at 9:45 p.m. when her daughter dropped her off at her home like the ABC15 news article with this interview states in their headline.

 
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We're they plumbers? They could have been pulling something that was flushed but had not made it to the septic tank.
not a bad guess. off the top of my head i can't really think of anything else...

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I was able to have a private conversation with a criminologist, which was especially nice since no one among my family or friends are into discussing this case except for my 13-year-old son. It was not a professional who is involved in this particular case, to be clear, but the person was able to answer some questions and correct me on some assumptions I had about criminal behavior and investigations (I admittedly say this as someone who typically can’t handle following true crime stuff). But this is a private individual and not someone who wants to be on the record as having been a resource in the case, and who is not following the details other than asking me questions about details in order to answer my questions. Can I share the thoughts/input under a ‘MOO’ sort of thing or is that considered speculative/unsourced, when I’m not stating the criminologist’s info?

I’m fine with just keeping the stuff to myself but it does address what some others have been saying, too, so I thought I’d ask.

Being new, I don’t totally understand the boundaries of some of the rules.
 
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I don't see that she will be located except through the suspect. Is the pacemaker tracking working out? Doesn't seem so unless I don't understand how long it takes.
The whole pacemaker tracking thing they are doing is realistically a shot in the dark. That's why I'm perplexed that they are not in contact with Amazon see if they can utilize their Sidewalk network to possibly help geolocate that device address.
 
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They can call me! OR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TIME TO CALL IN THE PSYCHICS! or listen to psychics that call in. Law enforcement does use them. There was a case of a kidnaping in the 70's near me. The little girl was missing from a neighboring town. They brought in a psychic. he not only found the girl's clothing stashed in a cemetery but brought them right to the body in a wooded area a mile away from there. They immediately put the psychic on a lie detector and he passed. Some time later, the real perp was found. Bring em on! JMO
I wonder if they are thinking along those lines. We know LE do use them, and in addition to the case you state above I can think of a couple of others where they actually panned out.
 
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I was able to have a private conversation with a criminologist, which was especially nice since no one among my family or friends are into discussing this case except for my 13-year-old son. It was not a professional who is involved in this particular case, to be clear, but the person was able to answer some questions and correct me on some assumptions I had about criminal behavior and investigations (I admittedly say this as someone who typically can’t handle following true crime stuff). But this is a private individual and not someone who wants to be on the record as having been a resource in the case, and who is not following the details other than asking me questions about details in order to answer my questions. Can I share the thoughts/input under a ‘MOO’ sort of thing or is that considered speculative/unsourced, when I’m not stating the criminologist’s info?

I’m fine with just keeping the stuff to myself but it does address what some others have been saying, too, so I thought I’d ask.

Being new, I don’t totally understand the boundaries of some of the rules.
I would certainly like to hear, and I am not sure but think MOO should make it not be a problem.
 
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This sounds quite desperate. Like a shotgun strategy (excuse the pun). Not like a targeted investigation.

It doesn’t seem desperate to me—more like a high percentage of routine police work, I’d guess, specially in a case like this.
 
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If the perp were born in another country would Codis have his DNA in their database if he had committed a previous crime here and was detained?
 
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If the perp were born in another country would Codis have his DNA in their database if he had committed a previous crime here and was detained?
If the crime was committed here, I believe they would. IMO.
 
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Some former FBI dude on a podcast said that the perp wasn’t sophisticated because they shopped at Walmart. Um, where do they think people shop? He intimated that the car couldn’t have belonged to them because it was expensive and the perp shops at Walmart. I swear some of these people are completely out of touch with reality. How many stores do they think are out there outside of shopping online? If you’re getting supplies to commit crimes, I doubt you’re going to buy the stuff from boutiques. You could theorize that the person breaking in is not economically well off because a wealthy person would be less likely to commit robbery, but we don’t even know that it was robbery. It could be SA, or a murder for hire. Some of these talking heads, I swear.
Also, I'm sure someone purchasing items to commit a crime doesn't give a crap whether those items are boujee or stylish. They probably are more concerned with easy availability and choosing common items that many people would own.
 
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I wouldn't read too much into whether people have been "cleared" or not... I've heard detectives on podcasts and shows say many times that their policy is to never "clear" suspects, at least not until their investigation is finished. I think the FBI is saying the professional thing to say. I think Nanos does not prescribe to that particular train of thought. All MOO.
 
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If the perp were born in another country would Codis have his DNA in their database if he had committed a previous crime here and was detained?
Here, Methinks, YES. jmo
 
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I have thought that the camera removal was to make sure it didn't "see' ng'S REMOVAL from the front door when getaway vehicle appeared to take her away. jmo. L-man may have been the driver....parked it off the property, then went to get it to take to front after cam removed. ???? jmo

I’m not sure he would park the car, put on his backpack, disable the camera and go back to his car immediately and take his backpack off so he can move the car. If he was by himself and he moved the car to the front it would have to be after he was in the house.

MOO
 
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I don't see that she will be located except through the suspect. Is the pacemaker tracking working out? Doesn't seem so unless I don't understand how long it takes.
I think the pacemaker tracking takes a long time because the tracker responds to ALL bluetooth devices. I believe it's very time consuming to go through all that data.
Now, if they would fly over the desert i think there are not many bluetooth apparatus active so there it can be very useful IMO
JMO
 
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