AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Trino]

With that in mind, what is the main objective in your opinion?
Finding NG, or catching the perpetrator?

Ask SG. That's your answer.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[BrittMontero]

Forgive me if I am not up to speed but how on earth do they find 'unknown' DNA in a large house like that?

I guess if there were bodily fluids left in the bathroom, it would be spotted and tested. But elsewhere - a hair? A used tissue? A used glass or cup? Surely they aren't just swabbing random surfaces? That would be like finding a needle in a haystack. It's hard to imagine that a fully-dressed, possibly masked intruder would leave much of anything behind, let alone leave behind something that could be noticed, tested and identified.

 

[OldCop]

With that in mind, what is the main objective in your opinion?
Finding NG, or catching the perpetrator?

Preservation of human life is always the first objective.

 

[Former Reporter]

Re cleared: Maybe they say “all in this group cleared”, then, LE follows to see if they do anything suspicious ( like hide evidence, return to body).

Just a thought, JMO

I've also had that possibility in the back of my mind.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023804239315955955

 

[maskedwoman]

Unless they are negotiating secretly behind the scenes, I don't think this feels at all like a kidnapping for ransom. You don't want someone for 3 weeks, especially an elderly person with health issues. This feels like a famous/rich person went missing and con artists are taking their shot at money. I don't think any actual communication from the individual in the video has occurred. My thought, terrible as it is, is that this is a serial offender and had nothing to do with who her family was. This feels like a bad situation and I feel what happened has already happened within a few hours of her being taken. I hope I'm wrong and someone returns her safely. But this just doesn't feel like a sophisticated kidnapping for money.

Good morning,
What I keep hanging up on is, if it's not a kidnapping for money, exactly what kind of serial offender is it? LE says it is not a robbery gone wrong, and it doesn't feel like a home invasion because there doesn't appear to be any forced entry. I can't figure it out. Gah!

 

[FaviousM]

Forgive me if I am not up to speed but how on earth do they find 'unknown' DNA in a large house like that?

I guess if there were bodily fluids left in the bathroom, it would be spotted and tested. But elsewhere - a hair? A used tissue? A used glass or cup? Surely they aren't just swabbing random surfaces? That would be like finding a needle in a haystack. It's hard to imagine that a fully-dressed, possibly masked intruder would leave much of anything behind, let alone leave behind something that could be noticed, tested and identified.

I guess maybe something like a door handle or maybe around the doorbell camera mount etc Plenty of surfaces and objects the perps would likely have interacted with

 

[Trino]

Or, he could have punched her in the nose if she attempted to scream once she realized that he was taking her away. Blood droplets are consistent with passive bleeding, like a nosebleed. Just my opinion, of course.

It does not seem logical to me that he would try to still remove her if she was deceased.

What about unconscious?

 

[SaraSmile]

And my guess, about why BE has such a reliable inside source, is that he is not a big blabber mouth who sensationalizes; quite the opposite imo he is thoughful and stays within the boundaries of responsible reporting.

Just what I have seen so JMO

Yes, BE is so professional. One of the ways he gets so much info is that, when interviewing, he listens, does not interrupt. Allows them to fully develop their own ideas.

IMO, this is how he gets so much good info, and doesn’t frustrate the interviewee( to shut down) or for us watching his reports, he comes across honest credible.

JMO

 

[BrittMontero]

I guess maybe something like a door handle or maybe around the doorbell camera mount etc Plenty of surfaces and objects the perps would likely have interacted with

But with gloves on, surely?

I think just as in JonBenet's case, the DNA is going to be a big distraction.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

According to this site - Why Don't More of Us Sleep With the Window Open? | Sleep Foundation
People in colder climates are more likely to sleep with window open and people in warmer climates more likely to sleep with it closed

I certainly fit with this though, im in one of the coldest states in the US and I’ve noticed I sleep SO much better with the window open

moo

Nothing like cool arctic winds

 

[SaraSmile]

I think that's the likely outcome of the glove DNA though. The DNA supposedly found in the house/on the property is surely a better lead even if it didn't hit in CODIS (which it presumably didn't seeing as nothing has come of it so far)

Time for IGG on the inside unknown DNA

JMO

 

[Turkeytrot]

But with gloves on, surely?

I think just as in JonBenet's case, the DNA is going to be a big distraction.

Main thing I'm thinking of is that "bite light" in his mouth. Assuming he took that out at some point and there would be saliva from that on the gloves, then on whatever he touched possibly.

Jmo

 

[Gunther Toody]

Preservation of human life is always the first objective.

I agree, but most here are emphasizing identifying the DNA, which in my opinion is secondary to preserving human life.

 

[Friday Fan]

Someone mentioned that perp could have gone to Mexico:
1. I don't think he's cartel, so I don't think he attempted to sneak in via gaps or smuggling routes. Generally, those passages can be tunnels and lead to harsh landscapes etc. He would need to know where any part of that border wasn't secure.
2. I believe Mexico requires passports at ports of entry. (I hear mixed, but I think they do. For awhile they didn't)
3. I don't think he was able to get there without a passport. (I could be wrong)

• Entry and Exit Requirements: All travelers, including travelers who are only staying within 12 miles (or 20 kilometers) of the border area, must obtain a Forma Migratoria Múltiple (FMM). Travelers must apply for the FMM online or from the nearest INM office. Keep this document safe, as you will need it when leaving Mexico. The current cost is $861 MXN (around $47 USD) and will be $983.00 MXN (around $54 USD) starting in January 2026.
• Immigration:  All travelers to Mexico need a passport book or card to enter Mexico. U.S. citizen minors must have a U.S. passport book when traveling domestically in Mexico by air. When you arrive in Mexico, Mexican immigration authorities will determine how long you are authorized to stay. Pay attention to the date written on your entry stamp. Violating the terms of your stay in Mexico can result in fines and detention. Ensure your passport is valid for the duration of your stay.

Technical Difficulties

What documents do I need to enter Mexico?

El gobierno de México proporciona a nivel internacional en distintos países a través de su Consulado General de México en Montreal, áreas de protección a mexicanos, documentación a mexicanos y extranjeros; servicios en las áreas de educación, salud y organización comunitaria dirigidos a la...

consulmex.sre.gob.mx

Apparently, the FMM requirement has been on their books for awhile, but it was never enforced until recently. (Maybe a "tit for tat" situtation. ) I don't know if they require the FMM if crossing on foot? The US has some stricter border crossing regulations, such as not going 25 miles without a VISA.
Lots of people cross for meds and dental work. I know they suddenly enforced it at the Lukeville crossing last year and a bunch of people got mad.
Mexico enforces requirement of immigration document from American tourists

If he enters MX on foot, he would eventually need a vehicle or some transportation. Even if he's a Mexican citizen, he will also need documentation. So, there would be record.

Anyway, not as easy as it used to be. There would be record of his crossing. It would be easier to travel to another state etc.

 

[Vaderman]

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WFLA Live, which is still streaming as of Monday, February 16 at 1:50 PM Eastern, had Brian Entin on earlier. Brian Entin said he believes this case will be solved and advised everyone to watch the next 24 to 48 hours closely. I can’t provide a timestamp yet because the broadcast is still live.

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I wonder if Brian still stands by his 24-48 hours. We're about halfway there...

 

[milkshakedonkey]

what kind of professional organisation trains it's staff to just discard their shirts at a probable crime scene??

this goes from stupid to unreal!!

It says the shirt was "used" by USBP K9. I imagine it may be a shirt of NG that was used for scenting. I doubt a person left their own shirt discarded. Still odd to be left, but likely not a LE officer discarding their own shirt.

 

[LRinCA]

DBM - duplicate media

 

[FaviousM]

Main thing I'm thinking of is that "bite light" in his mouth. Assuming he took that out at some point and there would be saliva from that on the gloves, then on whatever he touched possibly.

Jmo

Also gloves and balaclavas will make you warm and sweaty, could easily transfer that onto some surface. The bite light being a transfer source is a good call though