AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[VegasGirl35]

Again, I understand it but it shows they really have no concrete leads and are trying to come across something, anything to reverse engineer their investigation back to a potential suspect.

My only theory is they're hoping to get a hit on the genealogy DNA and by some miracle it'll be a link to one of the 40 photos. I agree it's a long shot, but I guess they have to keep the wheel spinning. Otherwise I don't know how you put any of those guys at the house? Buying a gun or holster similar to what was seen in the video doesn't prove anything.

 

[SMK777]

Well, that's that then.

Disappointing.

Always back to square one.

 

[annpats]

I thought they looked like two different people in matching disguises. It would make sense to dress alike.

The porch guy looked stockier to me.

Yes, I think so too. The porch guy looked a more stocky build and overweight.

But it could've also just been the camera lens. Many security cameras have an ultra-wide 'fish-eye' type lens that distort things viewed very close up to it.

 

[penguinface]

I think the best way to think of the gun shop enquiries is that it was like a police lineup/identity parade of sorts. LE would want to give enough “placebo” photos and names that the gun shop staff can’t figure out exactly who it is they’re looking for. If it was only, say, one or two real suspects and three or four “duds”, all of the gun shops would be able to remember at least a few of the names they were shown, especially if they talk to each other, as those within an industry locally often do, which could then leak to the press easily.

JMO

 

[sapphire blue]

They look the same to me. I think it is just because the picture of him without the backpack is cropped more making it less clear and more distorted.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

to me it looks like he is wearing a camouflage zip jacket

 

[SRWCF]

My only theory is they're hoping to get a hit on the genealogy DNA and by some miracle it'll be a link to one of the 40 photos. I agree it's a long shot, but I guess they have to keep the wheel spinning. Otherwise I don't know how you put any of those guys at the house? Buying a gun or holster similar to what was seen in the video doesn't prove anything.

LE is leaning into that backpack. It may be the clue that is needed to break the case open. Or not.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Always back to square one.

Maybe a very large reward for information. No honor amongst thieves.

 

[SUNchips]

They look the same to me. I think it is just because the picture of him without the backpack is cropped more making it less clear and more distorted.

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The shoes are so clearly different though. There are no black marks on the lantana man’s shoes visible throughout the entire video. And the man without the backpack has black markings on his shoes. I think it is either two different people or the same man on a different night. I lean towards two people though IMO

 

[warp3dwing]

Always back to square one.

Trash pull time!

 

[annpats]

Always back to square one.

Yes!
There have been many 'red herrings' and good leads that turned out to be nothing.

Now the DNA has lead to a nothing as well. How we were all relying on it!

I don't know what else now, which direction to go in.

Unless they find another clue somewhere, or NG's body, or a perp gets sloppy and gives the game away, I don't know what's next.

Unbelievable after 3 weeks! I originally thought this case would be done and dusted within a week! I thought they'd find her body, and then the culprits.

Once it hits a month, and then 2....then what?

How long do LE go on searching for a body? And where, without solid intelligence or clues?

 

[keek]

But there were no flowers, right? Just the weeds for friction. I am not the poster who said he offered flowers; just saying that those must be the ones seen as flowers.

Yes, the same.

 

[m00c0w]

How? There is no way from that IR Nest cam footage they can discern what brand of holster that is or when it was purchased. Those nylon universal holsters are always seen in $5 gun store bins and yard sales. They used to be more popular decades ago. It's quit possible (likely really) that he legally purchased a gun outside of a gun store scenario or even illegally. Maybe they have a list of people who bought Walmart exclusive backpacks and similar holsters in the same purchase but even that proves nothing and is a stretch.

Should they… shrug and do nothing?

 

[SlimPickens]

I think the sheriff is focusing too much on the kidnapping angle. What this does is causes resources to prioritize suspect identification, forensics and digital evidence. SAR/recovery becomes secondary unless new evidence forces a pivot and
abandonment scenarios get less operational weight.

As I said earlier, I believe this case revolves around a bungled burglary attempt that forced the perpetrator to take NG with him. She probably struggled, he hit her causing passive bleeding and took her to the car.

IMO of course.

The best SAR/recovery device that any family of a missing person could hope for is an army of drones in the sky detecting signals for their relative's pacemaker. Far more likely to find her that way than a random grid search in what would at this point be little more than hunches or tips from psychics without a suspect or more data/evidence as to what actually happened.

JMO.

 

[BellaToothless]

I swear, I see a cell phone peeking out of the right pocket between .05 and .06. does anyone else see it? What else might it be?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023590291765129405

Looks like a Walkie talkie to me.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

 

[LRinCA]

IMO, I don't believe it was brutal inside. If it was, I think we would have heard it was an apparent murder scene vs a kidnapping. I can't wrap my head around the idea that the family would entertain ransom notes if there was an obvious sign of murder, i.e."brutal" inside.

Re: the family - I didn't realize until today that Savannah Guthrie is not only the co-host of The Today Show, but she is also NBC's Chief Legal Correspondent and has been since 2011. My comment goes along with your re: the family entertaining ransom notes (I agree with you on that - JMO/MOO). Her legal/law background would seem to give her an edge (?) when it comes to comprehending everything that's going on, or at least everything they've been made privy to. As an aside, I wonder if she has been inside the home since the abduction. Again JMO/MOO.

Savannah Guthrie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[SRWCF]

The shoes are so clearly different though. There are no black marks on the lantana man’s shoes visible throughout the entire video. And the man without the backpack has black markings on his shoes. I think it is either two different people or the same man on a different night. I lean towards two people though IMO

I agree about the shoes and it being 2 different guys.

 

[SMK777]

Re: the family - I didn't realize until today that Savannah Guthrie is not only the co-host of The Today Show, but she is also NBC's Chief Legal Correspondent and has been since 2011. My comment goes along with your re: the family entertaining ransom notes (I agree with you on that - JMO/MOO). Her legal/law background would seem to give her an edge (?) when it comes to comprehending everything that's going on, or at least everything they've been made privy to. As an aside, I wonder if she has been inside the home since the abduction. Again JMO/MOO.

Savannah Guthrie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for that. I didn't know that, either.

 

[SMK777]

The shoes are so clearly different though. There are no black marks on the lantana man’s shoes visible throughout the entire video. And the man without the backpack has black markings on his shoes. I think it is either two different people or the same man on a different night. I lean towards two people though IMO

Interesting. I hadn't noticed that.

 

[Monepone]

- Google is still trying to recover video from the other Nest cameras from Nancy's house. However, they don't think they can.

That's because they have no local storage and any video recoved is not magically done with forensics... Either Google has a backup of the video on their servers or they don't. At most they would need to find and decompress the video. The other possibility is that the cameras just don't work. Anyone with video cameras in a hot climate can tell you that the summer heat can cause them to stop functioning altogether.