• #34,841
Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo
 
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I've never posted here before, but I do read as many comments as I can! (Not all 1,680 pages though! So sorry if this has been asked before, but I haven't seen it.) A bunch of us were at dinner, talking about the Guthrie family; they must be going through hell right now. It's so awful. But one of the people at dinner asked an interesting question, and I'm curious if anyone here knows the answer. He asked, "Why can't SG just offer $1 million to anyone with information leading to the return of her mom?" Wouldn't that get a lot of people's attention and possibly cause somebody in the know to squeal on the kidnapper? It would seem like so much more of an incentive than $50k or $100k or even now $200k. Couldn't that help move the case along faster?
Perhaps FBI advised strongly against SG offering a reward for the return of her mother or perhaps FBI had serious questions about the validity of the people communicating with them about NG. JMO
 
  • #34,843
This may have already been covered and missed by me, but we know NG took medication that she relied on. Do we know how long that she can possibly go without it?
 
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I mean, sketch artists don't necessarily get every single feature perfectly-especially in this case where we see no features. To be fair of course we don't even know if this person is involved.
It's not about fairness ... you can see the differences in the images for yourself and like I said, I don't know how closely sketch artists typically get. Clearly, there are more differences than similarities between those two images, IMO.
 
  • #34,845
Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo
Very puzzling. I'm confident that LE called the woman whose name was on the card to get further information. JMO
 
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Well, since they have not located NG yet, it seems to be a safe location - for now.

Cheers,
Nin
Maybe I have more of a criminal mind, but I would be long gone from Tucson.
 
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"So we're working with our Walmart managers all across the state to try to find out how many sales there were of that backpack in the last 20, 30 days, the last 60 days."

Authorities have also ruled out suspicions that Nancy had been taken across the border to Mexico, which is located 60 to 70 miles from her home.

"To be clear…the Guthrie family – to include all siblings and spouses – has been cleared as possible suspects in this case. The family has been nothing but cooperative and gracious, and are victims in this case," Sheriff Nanos said in a statement.

"To suggest otherwise is not only wrong, it is cruel. The Guthrie family are victims plain and simple."

Investigators have received tens of thousands of tips about Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, with total calls to the Pima County Sheriff’s Department more than 50% higher than for the same period last year.

The tips are on top of the evidence already gathered and still being analyzed.
Serious leads are evaluated in a command center at the sheriff’s department that Sheriff Chris Nanos describes as similar to operations at the FBI command

Nanos said technology and legal considerations create unique challenges that can delay decision-making at his level while ground-level investigators continue moving forward.
 
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Dumb question here, but...when LE put up that white tent a few days back, were they (wondering out loud here) also checking those front porch pots for fingerprints? (I understand that sounds kind of obvious, but, well, sometimes "obvious" things are overlooked. Just saying.)
My impression was that they weree trying to simulate what the lighting was like in the middle of the night. JMOO
 
  • #34,849
This may have already been covered and missed by me, but we know NG took medication detrimental to her health. Do we know how long that she can possibly go without it?
detrimental to her health?
 
  • #34,850
Good point. We actually don't know that Lantana man took NG out to a car. Perhaps it was a ruse. This case is unlike any other. I'm baffled.
I’m completely baffled

Moo
 
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Very puzzling. I'm confident that LE called the woman whose name was on the card to get further information. JMO
I agree, I think this is one of those things that LE knows but we don't and it may never be disclosed.
 
  • #34,852
would you also take a look at his other hand? When a colorized AI pic was posted it was obvious he was holding something that had a strap/string attached. What is it?
Good catches. Might be interesting to try to figure these things out in case they are significant things. JMOO
 
  • #34,853
Perhaps FBI advised strongly against SG offering a reward for the return of her mother or perhaps FBI had serious questions about the validity of the people communicating with them about NG. JMO
Wouldn't a SG reward bring forth the culprits, if we think NG is being held for ransom?
 
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Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo
Sheriff says it was put there on the day she was reported missing


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It is just one theory in a sea of other theories that have no evidence.

A motive could be to obtain the 4 or 6 million ransom in Bitcoin where the currency can easily be changed.

The first ransom note author is sophisticated and they have yet to track him.

It's currency of bad people everywhere!
 
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As a small experiment, I tried to roughly estimate the time of this video using shadow length. Huge caveat here that this is very, very rough.

I started with this frame.

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Then I made a very basic ratio of height (foot to top of head) and shadow length (top of head to end of head shadow).

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The ratio: 20 blocks / 33 blocks = 0.6

Then, using mooncalc,com, I set the date to Feb 1 and placed the location at Nancy's home.

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With a object to shadow ratio of 0.6, I adjusted the time slider until the shadow length grew to 1.05 meters (1.75 meters x 0.6).

The corresponding time is approximately 02:20.

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So, likely that just means my methodology is sloppy if the clip is from 02:12, but it's fairly close. Closer to 02:12 that 01:47, anyway.

Is there anything to be learned from this? No. lol
Another example why I love this group. So many very smart people. Thanks for sharing this.
 
  • #34,859
I believe one reason we have talked about Mexico is in one of the emails TMZ got the guy said he saw NG with them 5 days ago.
Very specific and strange for a person to say that since they are then possibly implementing themselves in this crime, and if it's a true statement, he's also putting himself at risk of being silenced by the primary perpetrator(s). MOO
 
  • #34,860
This may have already been covered and missed by me, but we know NG took medication detrimental to her health. Do we know how long that she can possibly go without it?
Right when she went missing the sheriff said she would need it within 24 hours

Moo
 

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