AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[wibbleflea]

Has TMZ specified how these communications are coming in? Are they through a webform vs through email?

Levin uses the term “email” but loosely, I suspect. If someone completes a form on your own website, you receive the submission by email. I strongly suspect that at least the original two notes claiming to be from the abductor, each of which Levin called a “letter”, used web forms. I’d be amazed if they were really sent using email.

 

[Moonchime]

Is anyone else feeling like they’re getting whiplash?

I'm reaching for the Tylenol atm. lol

 

[Trino]

I believe one reason we have talked about Mexico is in one of the emails TMZ got the guy said he saw NG with them 5 days ago.

So, the sheriff directly contradicts this?

 

[factseeking]

Well, what's crazy is that just a few hours ago, Brian Entin posted this...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024250504675824063

Which was then followed by this tweet by Matt Finn an hour or two later...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024275248422740329

Yes! I don't know what to think anymore. I think I need to join Websleuths Guardians tho so I can use the laughing emoji for situations like this!

 

[No it's not]

Put yourself in the criminal mind. What would you do - at this point in time - with NG, assuming she is alive? Or in a criminal's mind: would she still be alive? Finally, why stay in Tucson?

Well, since they have not located NG yet, it seems to be a safe location - for now.

Cheers,
Nin

 

[heli]

I believe one reason we have talked about Mexico is in one of the emails TMZ got the guy said he saw NG with them 5 days ago.

TMZ Reports Fourth Demand Email About Nancy Guthrie

TMZ has received a 4th email from the man claiming to know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie and where she is ... and we have a proposition for that person.

www.tmz.com

 

[GMG1999]

I believe one reason we have talked about Mexico is in one of the emails TMZ got the guy said he saw NG with them 5 days ago.

I am actually surprised they have not paid the new ransom. JMO

 

[VegasGirl35]

Yes. After every statement to the media. It is a complete pissing contest.

Brief paraphrase of the last few weeks:

FBI: We're checking to see if she's in Mexico.
Sheriff: No reason to believe she's in Mexico.

Sheriff: The family has been cleared!
FBI: No comment.

FBI: We're checking gun shops to see find recent purchases.
Sheriff: No they're not.

FBI: The sheriff isn't sharing evidence with us.
Sheriff: Am so.

Feel free to add to the list.

I feel like we need to cue the 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' theme music.

 

[RedHaus]

I believe one reason we have talked about Mexico is in one of the emails TMZ got the guy said he saw NG with them 5 days ago.

Yes. And said something in the previous letter like (I paraphrase) 'prepare for this to go international'...

 

[warp3dwing]

As a small experiment, I tried to roughly estimate the time of this video using shadow length. Huge caveat here that this is very, very rough.

I started with this frame.

Then I made a very basic ratio of height (foot to top of head) and shadow length (top of head to end of head shadow).

The ratio: 20 blocks / 33 blocks = 0.6

Then, using mooncalc,com, I set the date to Feb 1 and placed the location at Nancy's home.

With a object to shadow ratio of 0.6, I adjusted the time slider until the shadow length grew to 1.05 meters (1.75 meters x 0.6).

The corresponding time is approximately 02:20.

So, likely that just means my methodology is sloppy if the clip is from 02:12, but it's fairly close. Closer to 02:12 that 01:47, anyway.

Is there anything to be learned from this? No. lol

 

[Forest_Wood]

Oh my goodness…..this pic.

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/c_fill,q_auto:eco,w_1120,h_746/rockcms/2026-02/260218-nancy-guthrie-tucson-ww-1537-2a2192.avif

Reporters stationed outside Nancy Guthrie's residence in Tucson, on Wednesday

No current evidence Nancy Guthrie was taken to Mexico, sources say

Live updates: Authorities are searching for clues that may lead them to the person seen on Nancy Guthrie's Tucson, Arizona, porch the morning she went missing.

www.nbcnews.com

Wondering where these reporters go to the restroom!

 

[ilgirl]

Well, what's crazy is that just a few hours ago, Brian Entin posted this...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024250504675824063

Which was then followed by this tweet by Matt Finn an hour or two later...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024275248422740329

And yet another response by Brian...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024297020908089697

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Does the stock Ozark Trail backpack have a magnet attached to the sternum strap? If not, it looks like this guy might have at one point added one, perhaps for a water bladder.

Look at Video 1 starting around 00:20. The strap is magnetically attached to metal (or a magnet) in his pocket. When he bends over, it eventually falls free, then reattaches at 00:26.

Not sure if that's been mentioned before. Probably has!

Funny you mention the "thing" in his pocket. I was just looking at that today. I'm no expert with guns, but could the item in his pocket be gun ammo? I see layers there, like 6 layers.

Picture is from one of the videos posted in this thread by an approved source.

Also, another thing I noticed and may not be significant--but---the camera appears to pickup some white speckles on his gloves. Meaning that he touched "something" with the gloves on prior to arriving at the door. What that could have been is anyone's speculation.

 

[Periwinkl3]

TMZ's promoting itself in the midst of a horrific situation. I find it revolting.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

I agree it’s not the backpack. I just wonder what would make the pots be arranged differently in those hours. Just stuck out to me.

Dumb question here, but...when LE put up that white tent a few days back, were they (wondering out loud here) also checking those front porch pots for fingerprints? (I understand that sounds kind of obvious, but, well, sometimes "obvious" things are overlooked. Just saying.)

 

[tkcrockett]

Funny you mention the "thing" in his pocket. I was just looking at that today. I'm no expert with guns, but could the item in his pocket be gun ammo? I see layers there, like 6 layers.

Picture is from one of the videos posted in this thread by an approved source.

Also, another thing I noticed and may not be significant--but---the camera appears to pickup some white speckles on his gloves. Meaning that he touched "something" with the gloves on prior to arriving at the door. What that could have been is anyone's speculation.

dbm

 

[Napoli]

Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I've never posted here before, but I do read as many comments as I can! (Not all 1,680 pages though! So sorry if this has been asked before, but I haven't seen it.) A bunch of us were at dinner, talking about the Guthrie family; they must be going through hell right now. It's so awful. But one of the people at dinner asked an interesting question, and I'm curious if anyone here knows the answer. He asked, "Why can't SG just offer $1 million to anyone with information leading to the return of her mom?" Wouldn't that get a lot of people's attention and possibly cause somebody in the know to squeal on the kidnapper? It would seem like so much more of an incentive than $50k or $100k or even now $200k. Couldn't that help move the case along faster?

Perhaps FBI advised strongly against SG offering a reward for the return of her mother or perhaps FBI had serious questions about the validity of the people communicating with them about NG. JMO

 

[mzufall]

This may have already been covered and missed by me, but we know NG took medication that she relied on. Do we know how long that she can possibly go without it?

 

[Forest_Wood]

I mean, sketch artists don't necessarily get every single feature perfectly-especially in this case where we see no features. To be fair of course we don't even know if this person is involved.

It's not about fairness ... you can see the differences in the images for yourself and like I said, I don't know how closely sketch artists typically get. Clearly, there are more differences than similarities between those two images, IMO.