AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[slowpoke]

would you also take a look at his other hand? When a colorized AI pic was posted it was obvious he was holding something that had a strap/string attached. What is it?

Moo, I think AI distorted the original image of the gun holster to look like that (like a strap hanging, instead of the holster outline).
jmo

 

[Forest_Wood]

We don’t actually know when it was placed there. We only know the sheriff said the neighbors called APS the same day that NG was reported missing by the family and that it was there when BE did his video walk up to the front door which I believe was on the 3rd.

Having said that, if the sheriff is correct about when the call was placed, it is possible that APS arrived while LE was there and got permission from LE to put the card there or even asked a LE officer to place it there for them. It is also possible that APS put it there after LE released the house to the family but before BE did his vid. And it is also possible that APS arrived before the family did when they were called about NG missing the remote church service and called 911.

And if all of those possibilities were found to be true .. then what? What are you all implying? I keep seeing all these posts going in circles about this card but not seeing how it relates to the abduction of NG.
MOO

 

[Trino]

Yes. After every statement to the media. It is a complete pissing contest.

Brief paraphrase of the last few weeks:

FBI: We're checking to see if she's in Mexico.
Sheriff: No reason to believe she's in Mexico.

Sheriff: The family has been cleared!
FBI: No comment.

FBI: We're checking gun shops to see find recent purchases.
Sheriff: No they're not.

FBI: The sheriff isn't sharing evidence with us.
Sheriff: Am so.

Feel free to add to the list.

And it's totally bizarre that the woman from Adult Protective Services was allowed to walk up to the house - possibly over the drops of blood - and leave her card on the door.

JMO

What this means to me is the woman from APS had no idea about NG, which is what I, having stayed in Tucson, stated. The news is out now, but prior to this I don't think most people in Tucson had any idea of NG or the connection to SG. NG lived in an elite section of the city where most don't go or interact.

 

[tkcrockett]

Moo, I think AI distorted the original image of the gun holster to look like that (like a strap hanging, instead of the holster outline).
jmo

i think you may be right. thanks

 

[BigCityAccountant]

would you also take a look at his other hand? When a colorized AI pic was posted it was obvious he was holding something that had a strap/string attached. What is it?

Since hubby is programmer and does AI images, I wouldn't put any stock in an AI image. There are all kinds of things AI can and does randomly generate, including 6 fingers, 3 legs, and a unicorn hat. For all we know AI could have placed him pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

 

[factseeking]

They’re treating the ransom letters like just another one of their gossip stories. The worst, most traumatic thing for NG and her family and it’s fodder for them. Honestly despicable.

moo

I felt this very strongly earlier on in the case and voiced it in here but then several people convinced me HL is running everything by the FBI and taking instruction from them. Thats the only thing keeping me from feeling they're horrific.

 

[Jenny9]

Sheriff says it was put there on the day she was reported missing

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

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Its interesting that they were able to do that with a house full of family and police but no one saw that?or heard the knocks i would assume at the door?spider sense on!

 

[cherryleaf]

Put yourself in the criminal mind. What would you do - at this point in time - with NG, assuming she is alive? Or in a criminal's mind: would she still be alive? Finally, why stay in Tucson?

I think it would be difficult to move her from place to place. It’s far too risky. Wherever she is I think she’s been there from the beginning. I have no comment on how a criminal would think but I will tell you this. IMO, I 100 percent wholeheartedly believe that Nancy is a lot tougher than is being reported. I don’t just mean physically. I mean mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. A single widowed mother does not raise a fighter pilot, a msm journalist, and a writer without a steel backbone and being fiercely strong. This woman is a battle axe with extreme emotional fortitude. She’s a momma bear. I do believe she’s alive and she’s not going to do or say ANYTHING that would endanger her children or family. I firmly believe this with all my heart.
IF whomever has her is trying to get to her children I don’t believe she would ever let it happen and I think the majority of mothers ( and fathers) feel this way. If the perp took her to get to SG , she’s not helping.
MOO

 

[1.618]

Right when she went missing the sheriff said she would need it within 24 hours

Moo

Many of the medications (presumably cardiac meds) are chronic medications. As in they are taken daily to stabilize patient physiology over time. While it is detrimental to be off of medications, there are few medications that sustain life like in 24 hour increments that in the outpatient world. If a medication is vital for sustaining life for even just 24 hours, the patient is typically in the ICU. She has a pacemaker. Which means that either it tells the heart when to beat all the time (continuous pacing) or it only does when the heart rate falls to a dangerously low level intermittently (called on demand pacing).

 

[Orion96007]

And if all of those possibilities were found to be true .. then what? What are you all implying? I keep seeing all these posts going in circles about this card but not seeing how it relates to the abduction of NG.
MOO

IMO, and for me the "card" is not important. What is important and has my spidey senses tingling is the old adage "The one who smelt it dealt it". This is just my own suspicion that someone quickly was jumping in to "help" or divert attention from themselves by helping or being concerned.... As I asked before, not knowing WHO this neighbor is, have they ever been concerned before or been worried about NG? It just feels strange to me and this is my own opinion and hoping I am not speaking for anyone else.... It very well may just be a concerned neighbor going above and beyond...

 

[tkcrockett]

Good catches. Might be interesting to try to figure these things out in case they are significant things. JMOO

sorry...i think it's the gun and holster. thanks

 

[tkcrockett]

Moo, I think AI distorted the original image of the gun holster to look like that (like a strap hanging, instead of the holster outline).
jmo

yep. i agree. thanks

 

[Forest_Wood]

I think it would be difficult to move her from place to place. It’s far too risky. Wherever she is I think she’s been there from the beginning. I have no comment on how a criminal would think but I will tell you this. IMO, I 100 percent wholeheartedly believe that Nancy is a lot tougher than is being reported. I don’t just mean physically. I mean mentally and spiritually. A single widowed mother does not raise a fighter pilot, a msm journalist, and a writer without a steel backbone and being fiercely strong. This woman is a battle axe with extreme emotional fortitude. She’s a momma bear. I do believe she’s alive and she’s not going to do or say ANYTHING that would endanger her children or family. I firmly believe this with all my heart.
IF whomever has her is trying to get to her children I don’t believe she would ever let it happen and I think the majority of mothers ( and fathers) feel this way. If the perp took her to get to SG , she’s not helping.
MOO

I agree it would have been very difficult to move her without her walking out on her own. It would have been a very slow process if she had walked out, which I don't believe she did. Has it ever been mentioned if her cane was missing also?
MOO

 

[Jenny9]

We don’t actually know when it was placed there. We only know the sheriff said the neighbors called APS the same day that NG was reported missing by the family and that it was there when BE did his video walk up to the front door which I believe was on the 3rd.

Having said that, if the sheriff is correct about when the call was placed, it is possible that APS arrived while LE was there and got permission from LE to put the card there or even asked a LE officer to place it there for them. It is also possible that APS put it there after LE released the house to the family but before BE did his vid. And it is also possible that APS arrived before the family did when they were called about NG missing the remote church service and called 911.

But they would call the family first?why wouldn't they call the police?Who would think to call aps first before 911?it doesn't make sense to me, moo

 

[Chainspell]

Daily Brian Entin update is out.

 

[Napoli]

This may have already been covered and missed by me, but we know NG took medication that she relied on. Do we know how long that she can possibly go without it?

Do we even know what it was, specifically? I have seen BP meds mentioned here. She has a pacemaker. I have seen blood thinners mentioned here. Is this speculation or was a medication list or even class of medications documented anywhere? moo

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Sheriff says it was put there on the day she was reported missing

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

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WHO IS THIS NEIGHBOR? Have they talked to the neighbor?

Speculation here--but did the perp call? Has the call been traced? Here's my reasoning for my speculation. If the perp thought NG wouldn't be noticed missing until well after the ransom was sent--how would you get LE to her house then? The perp wouldn't want to call LE directly, so what's the next best thing? Adult Protective Services?

....and I still go back to.....why didn't Debra M---dial 911 when she saw the blood on the porch?

Something just doesn't add up here for me.

 

[1.618]

I agree it would have been very difficult to move her without her walking out on her own. It would have been a very slow process if she had walked out, which I don't believe she did. Has it ever been mentioned if her cane was missing also?
MOO

If two people carried her out (one holding feet and one holding shoulders) she could be then loaded into a vehicle of some kind more easily. Lantana man seems like he's showing up as the ride service, dismantling camera, maybe waiting for the door to open from the inside and then helping an accomplice who came through a window or something carry her out after he backs a car up to the walkway. All speculation, but just seems like the most practical way to carry another human and all the stuff they brought it out of the house.

 

[tricia]

We are going live shortly at 10:30 PM Eastern with Websleuths YouTube LIVE.
We'll go over everything that happened today. Well. almost everything.
Hope you will join us.

 

[shonyakay]

Daily Brian Entin update is out.

That is so sweet all of the people leaving flowers and such for Nancy. Heartwarming. I hope she can come home and see all of them for herself.