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I've noticed that there is some weird light movement going on behind him in the part of the video where he is holding the foliage up to the camera. I wondered if it was someone else sweeping a torchlight around, or if it was the movement of car lights in the distance. But it seems to shine inside the porch area, because he is silhouetted against a completely black background before and after, and doesn't seem to be moving his head at all, IMO.

You need to play the video on 0.25 speed to really catch it, between time stamps 0.33 and 0.37 in the video -

screenshots where I've tried to capture it
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In regard to the "highly sophisticated demand" that TMZ says it has received, can someone explain what makes it so? I know the answer is in the cryptocurrency somehow but I would like to hear from someone knowledgeable on this.
Proper grammar? Because TMZ is so sophisticated? jmo
 
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I've noticed that there is some weird light movement going on behind him in the part of the video where he is holding the foliage up to the camera. I wondered if it was someone else sweeping a torchlight around, or if it was the movement of car lights in the distance. But it seems to shine inside the porch area, because he is silhouetted against a completely black background before and after, and doesn't seem to be moving his head at all, IMO.

You need to play the video on 0.25 speed to really catch it, between time stamps 0.33 and 0.37 in the video -

screenshots where I've tried to capture it
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Was confirmed to be outside lights at the across the way neighbor's house (way way back in the thread).
 
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The camo jacket you posted doesn’t have the dark horizontal band around the lower chest area.

JMO
I should've said in my post that I don't believe the image is from the same night- different clothes, different shoes, no backpack, and amount of light (moon casting shadows)

I think it must have been from an earlier date and represented someone "casing" the house.
 
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Could it have been a neighbor who calls himself a neighbor but is not a neighbor who called for the above reasons? Just thinkin' too hard...
Could someone have called in something about NG, earlier and not related to her abduction? I mean It could haver been called in Friday, for example, and APS worker got there Monday. Was there some financial fraud going on? Did the perp seduce her over time to send money? Did a friend or someone know this and report it? Did the PERP send this woman there, knowing he, himself, was going to kidnap her and she would arrive afterwards and it would muddy the water.? Could my delusional, lovesick, SG stalker have been taking money from NG or Sending an email or 2 demanding money or have befriended NG in some kind of oddball scheme? I just think after 6000 posts about a gun holder and NOTHING about the APS card, it's probably time someone question this and not take an offhand statement from LE as gospel. JMO
 
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Was confirmed to be outside lights at the across the way neighbor's house (way way back in the thread).
Who confirmed it?

I don't understand why it's there and then it's not, without a head movement that I can perceive. And in my fourth screenshot it seems to shine on him. IMO
 
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Could someone have called in something about NG, earlier and not related to her abduction? I mean It could haver been called in Friday, for example, and APS worker got there Monday. Was there some financial fraud going on? Did the perp seduce her over time to send money? Did a friend or someone know this and report it? Did the PERP send this woman there, knowing he, himself, was going to kidnap her and she would arrive afterwards and it would muddy the water.? Could my delusional, lovesick, SG stalker have been taking money from NG or Sending an email or 2 demanding money or have befriended NG in some kind of oddball scheme? I just think after 6000 posts about a gun holder and NOTHING about the APS card, it's probably time someone question this and not take an offhand statement from LE as gospel. JMO
Possible, but Sheriff Nanos has said (article upthread) that a neighbor had called APS after NG was reported missing on February 1.
 
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After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
Did you try "Nancy Giuffre" also? Maybe, some more users mixed the name up.
 
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but I can’t understand why someone would make a phone call to an agency to do a welfare check, when her house was full of family and police !
Obviously they are there for a reason, so if you have something to report, they would be the obvious ones to report it to - me thinks…

Maybe I’m missing something 🤔
Normally I wouldn't quote myself but the thread moves so fast.
Here is the report that has the Sheriff addressing the card and my take on why, imo.


It is my impression that the Sheriff’s department is under staffed and critical incidents are prioritized. I’m impressed by the immediate response by APS.

In my community city officers are quicker response when calling for welfare check where APS could be weeks; over worked and understaffed.

In our county Sheriff’s office there is really not much community policing at all.

So the choice to call APS seems appropriate considering the immediate response.

Since the neighbors were understandably shocked the check in may have been a way to gain information of the state of the situation and get a response on how the neighbors may be able to assist NG going forward without bothering her daughter at that point.

[My use of initials in the quote]

A different neighbor, G B, said there was a large police presence in the area.

“When there was so much police presence with the helicopters and the drones, unbeknownst to us what was going on. I have to say that was a bit disconcerting, but you know, whatever they need do,” Breeding told Newsweek.

She said the neighborhood is typically “quiet.”


Nancy Guthrie's neighbors shocked by abduction: "Everyone is just scared"


all imo
 
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Where is the suspect? Someone has to know who he is. If he lives at home, you would think his family would know if he has a backpack/jacket like the ones shown, is he missing work? Did he leave his home without anyone noticing? Where did he take Nancy? He could be living on his own maybe, but he would need to get out and shop, work etc. I can’t believe he just vanished. Every morning I check the news to see if anyone has been arrested and Nancy found.
 
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I’m not sure all men understand what a masked man means to a woman and why that puts a chill in our soul. MOO
I think they do, but many have to put on their own "I'm not skeert mask". LOL
 
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Normally I wouldn't quote myself but the thread moves so fast.
Here is the report that has the Sheriff addressing the card and my take on why, imo.
Maybe Sheriff Nanos made up the neighbor call because they don't want to reveal why APS was called. JMO
 
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After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
I found a local paper carried an article about Savannah Guthrie on 5 Nov 2025. In it she talks about growing up in the Catalina Foothills and lists the schools she attended. I believe she also references visiting her mom who still lives in Catalina Foothills. Page A1 and A4. (Highlights by me)
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After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
IIRC there is only one way (road) in and out of Nancy's property. They could be looking at all doorbell or cam footage they can get to see if one car in particular made trips by the residence during that month. I doubt there is a lot of traffic in general, so a car checking out or driving by that residence would probably stick out.

JMO
 
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9:45 or 10 pm is not "late" for many seniors.
It is for me. I’ve given up my FC Dallas games because they are too late and I’m not even 65 yet!! BUT — some seniors do stay up late. Not me.
 
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Maybe Sheriff Nanos made up the neighbor call because they don't want to reveal why APS was called. JMO
I agree. The neighbor story and timeline of when APS would’ve come to the house that morning but not seen LE or AG just doesn’t make sense to me
 
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Per Google trends Google searches that I conducted....

December 22, 2025
"Nancy Guthrie" was searched 1 time
Based on City it lists Catalina foothills
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

December 28, 2025
"Savannah Guthrie" was searched 2 times
Based on City it lists Tubac
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

January 9, 2026
"Nancy Guthrie" was searched 1 time
Based on City it lists Catalina foothills
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

February 9, 2026
"Is Bitcoin traceable" is Googled 100 times
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

 

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