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Proper grammar? Because TMZ is so sophisticated? jmoIn regard to the "highly sophisticated demand" that TMZ says it has received, can someone explain what makes it so? I know the answer is in the cryptocurrency somehow but I would like to hear from someone knowledgeable on this.
Was confirmed to be outside lights at the across the way neighbor's house (way way back in the thread).I've noticed that there is some weird light movement going on behind him in the part of the video where he is holding the foliage up to the camera. I wondered if it was someone else sweeping a torchlight around, or if it was the movement of car lights in the distance. But it seems to shine inside the porch area, because he is silhouetted against a completely black background before and after, and doesn't seem to be moving his head at all, IMO.
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I should've said in my post that I don't believe the image is from the same night- different clothes, different shoes, no backpack, and amount of light (moon casting shadows)The camo jacket you posted doesn’t have the dark horizontal band around the lower chest area.
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If only he was still in chargeThis is bad...former Pima County Sheriff rebukes the current sheriff and his mishandling of the Guthrie case.
Could someone have called in something about NG, earlier and not related to her abduction? I mean It could haver been called in Friday, for example, and APS worker got there Monday. Was there some financial fraud going on? Did the perp seduce her over time to send money? Did a friend or someone know this and report it? Did the PERP send this woman there, knowing he, himself, was going to kidnap her and she would arrive afterwards and it would muddy the water.? Could my delusional, lovesick, SG stalker have been taking money from NG or Sending an email or 2 demanding money or have befriended NG in some kind of oddball scheme? I just think after 6000 posts about a gun holder and NOTHING about the APS card, it's probably time someone question this and not take an offhand statement from LE as gospel. JMOCould it have been a neighbor who calls himself a neighbor but is not a neighbor who called for the above reasons? Just thinkin' too hard...
Who confirmed it?Was confirmed to be outside lights at the across the way neighbor's house (way way back in the thread).
I believe this 100%. This is one of the first things that popped up for me when I did a search yesterday on polygraphs, that they are often used during interviews for LE type jobs. MOO
Possible, but Sheriff Nanos has said (article upthread) that a neighbor had called APS after NG was reported missing on February 1.Could someone have called in something about NG, earlier and not related to her abduction? I mean It could haver been called in Friday, for example, and APS worker got there Monday. Was there some financial fraud going on? Did the perp seduce her over time to send money? Did a friend or someone know this and report it? Did the PERP send this woman there, knowing he, himself, was going to kidnap her and she would arrive afterwards and it would muddy the water.? Could my delusional, lovesick, SG stalker have been taking money from NG or Sending an email or 2 demanding money or have befriended NG in some kind of oddball scheme? I just think after 6000 posts about a gun holder and NOTHING about the APS card, it's probably time someone question this and not take an offhand statement from LE as gospel. JMO
Did you try "Nancy Giuffre" also? Maybe, some more users mixed the name up.After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
Normally I wouldn't quote myself but the thread moves so fast.but I can’t understand why someone would make a phone call to an agency to do a welfare check, when her house was full of family and police !
Obviously they are there for a reason, so if you have something to report, they would be the obvious ones to report it to - me thinks…
Maybe I’m missing something![]()
It is my impression that the Sheriff’s department is under staffed and critical incidents are prioritized. I’m impressed by the immediate response by APS.
In my community city officers are quicker response when calling for welfare check where APS could be weeks; over worked and understaffed.
In our county Sheriff’s office there is really not much community policing at all.
So the choice to call APS seems appropriate considering the immediate response.
Since the neighbors were understandably shocked the check in may have been a way to gain information of the state of the situation and get a response on how the neighbors may be able to assist NG going forward without bothering her daughter at that point.
[My use of initials in the quote]
A different neighbor, G B, said there was a large police presence in the area.
“When there was so much police presence with the helicopters and the drones, unbeknownst to us what was going on. I have to say that was a bit disconcerting, but you know, whatever they need do,” Breeding told Newsweek.
She said the neighborhood is typically “quiet.”
Nancy Guthrie's neighbors shocked by abduction: "Everyone is just scared"
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I think they do, but many have to put on their own "I'm not skeert mask". LOLI’m not sure all men understand what a masked man means to a woman and why that puts a chill in our soul. MOO
Maybe Sheriff Nanos made up the neighbor call because they don't want to reveal why APS was called. JMONormally I wouldn't quote myself but the thread moves so fast.
Here is the report that has the Sheriff addressing the card and my take on why, imo.
I found a local paper carried an article about Savannah Guthrie on 5 Nov 2025. In it she talks about growing up in the Catalina Foothills and lists the schools she attended. I believe she also references visiting her mom who still lives in Catalina Foothills. Page A1 and A4. (Highlights by me)After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
IIRC there is only one way (road) in and out of Nancy's property. They could be looking at all doorbell or cam footage they can get to see if one car in particular made trips by the residence during that month. I doubt there is a lot of traffic in general, so a car checking out or driving by that residence would probably stick out.After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
It is for me. I’ve given up my FC Dallas games because they are too late and I’m not even 65 yet!! BUT — some seniors do stay up late. Not me.9:45 or 10 pm is not "late" for many seniors.
I agree. The neighbor story and timeline of when APS would’ve come to the house that morning but not seen LE or AG just doesn’t make sense to meMaybe Sheriff Nanos made up the neighbor call because they don't want to reveal why APS was called. JMO
This also applies to crossing the border. While I tend to think she’s closer to home, I think it would be easy to put her in the trunk of any vehicle and cross the border. Who would be any wiser?But if NG was in a car trunk, SUV back hatch or in the back of a van, especially with AZ plates, in the middle of the night, how could LE possibly know which vehicle to focus on, without something they can trace to NG's house (tire tracks) or neighborhood (via neighbors' cameras)?