AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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[Napoli]

I'm curious about a personality profile.
What type of person would hurt a sweet 84yo lady?
-Psychopath, has no empathy.
-Hardened criminal who needs money. (Even tho they also have grandmothers and therefore maybe have some sort of feelings when hurting her)
-Drug addict without emotional attachments due to, well, drugs.
-Someone who's really angry with Nancy and wanted revenge. (Hard for me to imagine as Nancy seems such a nice lady)
I mean, there are not many types of people who would even consider something like this. Or am i mistaken?

Celebrity stalker. Captivated by SG. Thinks she is his fantasy girlfriend. Lives in a make believe world of movies and TV. Socially shy, awkward in normal male/female relationships. Puts HIS WOMAN (SG) on a pedestal. Might be a poetic or well read, literary type, bookish or nerdy guy. OCD. Anxiety is high. Can no longer contain his love for SG. Gets to her through her mother, NG. Receives the attention he craves. Feels, SG has spurned him by not responding to little compliments he may have said to her on a fan page that are simple like "Loved you on the show today". Basically, he's a tortured soul. MOO JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

We believe that we may have some DNA there that may be our suspect, but we won’t know that until that DNA is separated, sorted out, maybe admitted to CODIS, maybe through genetic genealogy," Nanos said.

Investigators are now turning to genetic genealogy, which has previously successfully identified other high-profile criminals like the Golden State Killer and University of Idaho murderer Brian Kohberger.

"If I was the kidnapper, I would be extremely concerned right now, because using investigative genetic genealogy, he will be identified," DNA expert CeCe Moore told "TODAY" Thursday.

Authorities, however, are not allowed to use well-known genealogy sites such as Ancestry.com or 23andMe, and will have to rely on publicly available DNA databases to test the DNA. Moore noted that the process may take a while.

"If they have deep roots in the United States, it could be minutes, it could be a few hours," Moore said. "But if it’s somebody who doesn’t have connections to the U.S. in their tree in more recent generations, then it could take much longer."

Arizona authorities turn to genetic genealogy in ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie

Nancy Guthrie, 84, was reported missing on Feb. 1 from her home in the Tucson, Arizona, area. She was last seen the night before, when family dropped her off at home.

www.nbcnews.com

I think they sent for IGG, geneology testing:
1. The glove, from 2 Miles away, even though highly unlikely to be related, JMO
2. Inside the house DNA, unknown person, not identified yet. Could very likely be the perp!

Since LE is chasing down all leads, they are now going to this expensive time consuming step.
I think their thought is it’s still cheaper than all the other resources on the case. Case going on so many days. Local LE, FBI, SWAT, drones, air searched, phone computer, camera, tech data. Etc.

I’m all for it, can’t wait to hear the result. Especially inside unknown DNA donor!

JMO

 

[cady]

Celebrity stalker. Captivated by SG. Thinks she is his fantasy girlfriend. Lives in a make believe world of movies and TV. Socially shy, awkward in normal male/female relationships. Puts HIS WOMAN (SG) on a pedestal. Might be a poetic or well read, literary type, bookish or nerdy guy. OCD. Anxiety is high. Can no longer contain his love for SG. Gets to her through her mother, NG. Receives the attention he craves. Feels, SG has spurned him by not responding to little compliments he may have said to her on a fan page that are simple like "Loved you on the show today". Basically, he's a tortured soul. MOO JMO

At the risk of repeating myself, I am quite confident that SG's social media has been SCOURED for clues, and that if she suspected a stalker, or just weird comments, she has revealed that to investigators. This doesn't mean that this guy or these people haven't fantasized about committing this crime, though. JMO

 

[GooseyPie]

This was all staged, why on earth would someone want to go in the front door, I think that they deliberately let themselves be on camera to make us think it was some psycho, probably paid for his acting by the real culprit. They could have gone in the back, and why carry someone out of the front door when you can take them out of the garage door and put them straight into the car.

 

[turaj]

I certainly hope NG is alive, but at what point do you suppose LE will be looking for a body? I suppose assumption of life could go on forever, but it's not reality. SG will need to return to her family.

I don't see much in the way of organized searches however they must be looking for both Nancy alive and dead.

 

[SaraSmile]

Too much bluetooth noise around? Or maybe he is just a dumbdumb that thinks "i got this far, they'll never catch me here"
Who knows? - JMO

From what I gathered, a drone needs to fly fairly close to the ground to pick up the bluetooth of the pacemaker. It’s not a tool/ technique for a large area. I saw the flyover with helicopter, must have been low also. I doubt NG is with the captor, sorry.

Yes, it would be so excellent if her location was found! JMO

 

[submarine7]

It may be true that APS always comes out in cases like this but, and I don't mean to belabor the point, but the question is not WHY APS was at the scene, but rather why the neighbor called APS.

There would have been no reason to call if LE was already present on the scene. As far as we know, no one knew NG was missing until AG called LE. If the neighbor somehow knew before that, it could make a difference, IMO.

I think the neighbor called out of concern. Nobody has insinuated they called before Nancy was reported missing. That didn't happen.

 

[turaj]

Celebrity stalker. Captivated by SG. Thinks she is his fantasy girlfriend. Lives in a make believe world of movies and TV. Socially shy, awkward in normal male/female relationships. Puts HIS WOMAN (SG) on a pedestal. Might be a poetic or well read, literary type, bookish or nerdy guy. OCD. Anxiety is high. Can no longer contain his love for SG. Gets to her through her mother, NG. Receives the attention he craves. Feels, SG has spurned him by not responding to little compliments he may have said to her on a fan page that are simple like "Loved you on the show today". Basically, he's a tortured soul. MOO JMO

I don't know if this theory has any validity but it could. SG has over the years shared her entire family with her fans which I think she probably now realizes was not a good move. Lots of videos with her husband and children too. I would scrub all of those and bet any high profile media people are doing the same. There are some really sickos out there.
That said I think it is more personal than a stalker for SG.

 

[cady]

I don't see much in the way of organized searches however they must be looking for both Nancy alive and dead.

Wouldn't drones pick up disturbed areas? I hope they have gotten lots of tips about that, and fires, which would be or have been very visible in the darkness. jmo

 

[turaj]

I think the neighbor called out of concern. Nobody has insinuated they called before Nancy was reported missing. That didn't happen.

something triggered them to go over to the home. She often left for various family and friend events and drove herself. Why the call?

 

[SlimPickens]

Celebrity stalker. Captivated by SG. Thinks she is his fantasy girlfriend. Lives in a make believe world of movies and TV. Socially shy, awkward in normal male/female relationships. Puts HIS WOMAN (SG) on a pedestal. Might be a poetic or well read, literary type, bookish or nerdy guy. OCD. Anxiety is high. Can no longer contain his love for SG. Gets to her through her mother, NG. Receives the attention he craves. Feels, SG has spurned him by not responding to little compliments he may have said to her on a fan page that are simple like "Loved you on the show today". Basically, he's a tortured soul. MOO JMO

If this is the MO of the person who did this, and it's certainly possible, I'd only add a significant triggering event that made him spiral. Death of a mother/parent/child would fit, or could be something a bit less serious overall like a job loss/foreclosure/etc.

JMO.

 

[cherryleaf]

Let’s assume she is alive and local. Why is the perp not panicking about the fbi sniffer? (And thus given himself away)

Maybe they have some type of “homemade” faraday cage setup or something that could block it. No idea. I didn’t even know what a signal sniffer was till a few days ago.

 

[SaraSmile]

Wouldn't be the first time that's happened here at WS.
Abraham Shakespeare's murderer was posting while he was missing.
That is something that I'll never forget.
IMO.

BK of Idaho 4. = Papa Rodger’s. On Reddit

He, as Papa Rodgers, tried to dismiss the car ( his car), as not involved, when it was a major piece of evidence. Shortly after that the Reddit acct was deleted. Getting too close to the heat!

All JMO

 

[submarine7]

Yum

something triggered them to go over to the home. She often left for various family and friend events and drove herself. Why the call?

The call was because she was missing. They KNEW she was missing and they thought it appropriate. Remember, all they knew was she was missing and probably believed Nancy had wandered off. There is absolutely NOTHING odd about that. The only unusual thing is APS showing up and putting the card there during a huge investigation.

 

[Nikynoo]

I was watching Dr G on YT yesterday and he pointed out that the back pack is most likely unzipped or the zip burst open at the top. You can see it in this image, that which I had previously thought was the handle.

You can see it more clearly in this shot
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2023590291765129405

MOO

@Laura Avery

 

[Love Never Fails]

Good point.

Btw, it was actually "Savannah Guthrie" searched on December 28, 2025 twice
Based on City it lists Tubac
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

"Nancy Guthrie" was searched 1 time on December 22, 2025 and 1 time on January 9, 2026
Based on City it lists Catalina Foothills
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

I dont understand the search. Sierra Vist is not even close to Tucson. It’s a good drive from there.

 

[Napoli]

At the risk of repeating myself, I am quite confident that SG's social media has been SCOURED for clues, and that if she suspected a stalker, or just weird comments, she has revealed that to investigators. This doesn't mean that this guy or these people haven't fantasized about committing this crime, though. JMO

As I said, the comments may not be weird or even repeated. Just shy, ordinary compliments. Maybe even using more than one name. Maybe just someone liking comments of others on that page. Probably NOT OVERT. jmo MOO

 

[Charlot123]

BK of Idaho 4. = Papa Rodger’s. On Reddit

He, as Papa Rodgers, tried to dismiss the car ( his car), as not involved, when it was a major piece of evidence. Shortly after that the Reddit acct was deleted. Getting too close to the heat!

All JMO

Are we sure it was Pappa Roger's?

I read those posts. They didn't stand out when BK was unapprehended. Then after he was caught, someone thought that the profile in the avatar resembled BK. To me, it resembled BK in a way one emaciated man would resemble another one, as the painting was of WWII times. Anyhow, there was lots of agitation about the posts although they didn't indicate any specific knowledge IMO. I think FB traced the poster to some woman from US South, but not sure.

Did the police ever confirm that BK was Pappa Rogers? I think it is an urban myth.

 

[LAhiker]

something triggered them to go over to the home. She often left for various family and friend events and drove herself. Why the call?

Because she had just been declared missing?

JMO