AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

Very Interesting

Per Google Trends

November 27, 2025
2 searches referencing "Savannah Guthrie"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

December 22, 2005
1 search referencing "Nancy Guthrie"
City: Catalina Foothills
Metro: Sierra Vista

December 28, 2025
2 searches referencing "Savannah Guthrie"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 9, 2026
1 search referencing "Nancy Guthrie"
City: Catalina Foothills
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 12, 2026
1 search referencing "Savannah Guthrie American Broadcaster and Journalist"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 13, 2026
1 search referencing "Savannah Guthrie American Broadcaster and Journalist"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

I will update if I find more.

Google Trends

trends.google.com

 

[mom2tee]

I don't know if this theory has any validity but it could. SG has over the years shared her entire family with her fans which I think she probably now realizes was not a good move. Lots of videos with her husband and children too. I would scrub all of those and bet any high profile media people are doing the same. There are some really sickos out there.
That said I think it is more personal than a stalker for SG.

We had this discussion at my office the other day. Bets were that a lot of "famous" people who live their lives on social media would now start locking it down tighter. I was pretty surprised how many pics of SG's kids were readily available. Sigh.

 

[windrower]

I’m still behind several pages, but jumping in with a comment about the APS card.

What has me puzzled about the card, is not so much about how the card got there, although, of course, I’d like to know all the details of how it came to be there.

My big questions are: Which neighbor called in to APS and why.

With all the foliage between homes in the area of NG’s home, meaning lack of sight lines from one house to the next, what could have prompted the neighbor to call APS?

Why this particular morning? Quite the coincidence.

And what was so urgent about the call made to APS that they sent an investigator out on a Sunday?

 

[Napoli]

Yum

The call was because she was missing. They KNEW she was missing and they thought it appropriate. Remember, all they knew was she was missing and probably believed Nancy had wandered off. There is absolutely NOTHING odd about that. The only unusual thing is APS showing up and putting the card there during a huge investigation.

Following your line of reasoning...why would she go to the home of a missing person? Nothing to see ..she's missing! Can't observe her physical or mental state. AND, she shows up during a crime scene????????? IMO, that alert to APS was made before she was even missing. Possibly, an insurance policy sent by someone so that it would be discovered NG is missing. Why she was allowed on the premises and why she even bothered to show up with all the publicity makes no sense. JMO

 

[submarine7]

I dont understand the search. Sierra Vist is not even close to Tucson. It’s a good drive from there.

A search can originate from anywhere and a perp doesn't have to live in Tuscon. It's interesting that they originated near to Tuscon because it would strengthen the validity of the theory that perp was "local"

 

[cady]

As I said, the comments may not be weird or even repeated. Just shy, ordinary compliments. Maybe even using more than one name. Maybe just someone liking comments of others on that page. Probably NOT OVERT. jmo MOO

OK. That would be a rather large pool of potential stalkers........her whole fanbase! I think this perp is local and maybe only reads celeb gossip stuff, and decided how convenient it would be to do this, given that it's Nancy's home, too. I have No clue, really.....JMO

 

[submarine7]

I’m still behind several pages, but jumping in with a comment about the APS card.

What has me puzzled about the card, is not so much about how the card got there, although, of course, I’d like to know all the details of how it came to be there.

My big questions are: Which neighbor called in to APS and why.

With all the foliage between homes in the area of NG’s home, meaning lack of sight lines from one house to the next, what could have prompted the neighbor to call APS?

Why this particular morning? Quite the coincidence.

And what was so urgent about the call made to APS that they sent an investigator out on a Sunday?

Its not a coincidence. They called because they were made aware she was missing.

 

[penguinface]

Its not a coincidence. They called because they were made aware she was missing.

Or possibly they were the first person to discover she might be missing, after she didn’t turn up to their house for the church service watching.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

I certainly hope NG is alive, but at what point do you suppose LE will be looking for a body? I suppose assumption of life could go on forever, but it's not reality. SG will need to return to her family.

I’m my opinion the FBI already had ground crews, looking for evidence or a DB.

I saw a map, and officers walking through nearby desert brush, included cacti, tumbleweed, bushes, etc.

Most ground searches I have seen before were more thorough, really looking in and under foliage. In this case, desert plants have sharp points, and this brush is very hard to look through. No shade, just saying, it must be very hard when searching to work around sharp plants.

I’m sure she will eventually be found. I believe a hiker near a desert road, up the hill from NGs neighborhood. Maybe near a hiking or bike trail. How would the FBI go about a search of probable places to search?

Look down washes, a rain runoff track, mostly no plants. Usually dry, now raining, never turns to mud. It was noted, the dirt roads are very heavy packed earth, a combo of dirt, sand and crushed rock, combines to form a very solid surface, tire marks don’t show well, surface is too hard.

jMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Are we sure it was Pappa Roger's?

I read those posts. They didn't stand out when BK was unapprehended. Then after he was caught, someone thought that the profile in the avatar resembled BK. To me, it resembled BK in a way one emaciated man would resemble another one, as the painting was of WWII times. Anyhow, there was lots of agitation about the posts although they didn't indicate any specific knowledge IMO. I think FB traced the poster to some woman from US South, but not sure.

Did the police ever confirm that BK was Pappa Rogers? I think it is an urban myth.

 

[SaraSmile]

Haha, Thanks for your input, anyway, I think perps have and do come onto chat rooms.

JMO

 

[cady]

Haha, Thanks for you input, anyway, I think perps have and do come onto chat rooms.

JMO

If so, he probably hates the fact that the consensus is that he is a bumbling idiot! jmo

 

[factseeking]

Gd afternoon all!
Question about the APS card - why do so many people feel it's significant? Is the theory that the kidnapper called it in instead of a neighbor? And if so wouldn't LE already know that a neighbor didn't call it in and be investigating? Or is there some other reason people feel it's significant? IMO it doesn't seem significant enough to lead to the abductor or to NG but maybe I'm missing something about the issue.

 

[SlimPickens]

Celebrity stalker. Captivated by SG. Thinks she is his fantasy girlfriend. Lives in a make believe world of movies and TV. Socially shy, awkward in normal male/female relationships. Puts HIS WOMAN (SG) on a pedestal. Might be a poetic or well read, literary type, bookish or nerdy guy. OCD. Anxiety is high. Can no longer contain his love for SG. Gets to her through her mother, NG. Receives the attention he craves. Feels, SG has spurned him by not responding to little compliments he may have said to her on a fan page that are simple like "Loved you on the show today". Basically, he's a tortured soul. MOO JMO

If this is the MO of the person who did this, and it's certainly possible, I'd only add a significant triggering event that made him spiral. Death of a mother/parent/child would fit, or could be something a bit less serious overall like a job loss/foreclosure/etc.

JMO.

QMOP.

Elaborating on this general theory, it may not have been a delusional stalker at all if the Google searches of SG's salary and NG's home were real and were done by the suspect. I could also see a relatively local white collar suspect, or more apt a local suspect who leveraged heavily and lived a 'wannabe' white collar lifestyle, planning and executing the heist with solely a financial goal and his lifestyle continuity in mind. I hope LE is considering this angle if they don't already have a motive and/or someone in mind. After all, there is an obvious level of intelligence and sophistication in the planning and commission of this crime, but with a suspect who perhaps wouldn't account for all variables in its commission. Namely, that a 84 year old lady might have a pacemaker and might have medications she would need to survive his plan long enough to return her unharmed.

Another 'desperation' motive to consider, but with less selfish motives, would be a man with a sick/dying spouse/child who committed the act in much the same way and with much the same motive (financial) and much the same deficiencies in terms of victim planning, in order to have the funds to pay for X or Y or Z treatment, etc. I would be looking at any of these situations locally as well if they haven't already honed in on motive/suspect.

Reason I say suspect would likely be relatively local in these situations is because SG and NG would be famous enough locally to give the impression of vast wealth. Probably top of the food chain in Tucson, in other words. Otherwise a suspect would probably choose someone else somewhere else.

ETA - Not 5 million, not 10 million, not 20 million, but 6 million. That's pretty specific and seemingly with an intention not to bankrupt SG/NG by asking for the moon. Did he calculate what he needed?

JMO.

 

[SRWCF]

Gd afternoon all!
Question about the APS card - why do so many people feel it's significant? Is the theory that the kidnapper called it in instead of a neighbor? And if so wouldn't LE already know that a neighbor didn't call it in and be investigating? Or is there some other reason people feel it's significant? IMO it doesn't seem significant enough to lead to the abductor or to NG but maybe I'm missing something about the issue.

It's not significant. We just don't have anything else to pick apart at the moment!

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Against all odds, against everyone’s advice, if it were my mother, I would pay the ransom. I would rather look back knowing I had lost 6 million if I had it, than to think I lost my mother. JMO.

If one pays the $6.0M, you would (most probably) look back with the horrid realization you had lost your mother. Still ALWAYS be left wondering unless somehow this perp is caught/id'd. Maybe that IS the point of the perp. The CONSTANT torture forever after...

 

[TBYOOL]

Haha, Thanks for you input, anyway, I think perps have and do come onto chat rooms.

JMO

I agree that they have checked the threads (which creeps me out) but law enforcement and prosecutors stated clearly that Pappa Rogers (or whatever the spelling) wasn’t BK in the press conference after the sentencing. Apologies I don’t have the time stamp at this moment, but the thread linked also includes discussions of their statement.

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GUILTY Post in thread 'ID - PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112'

Jul 23, 2025

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[factseeking]

Very Interesting

Per Google Trends

November 27, 2025
2 searches referencing "Savannah Guthrie"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

December 22, 2005
1 search referencing "Nancy Guthrie"
City: Catalina Foothills
Metro: Sierra Vista

December 28, 2025
2 searches referencing "Savannah Guthrie"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 9, 2026
1 search referencing "Nancy Guthrie"
City: Catalina Foothills
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 12, 2026
1 search referencing "Savannah Guthrie American Broadcaster and Journalist"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

January 13, 2026
1 search referencing "Savannah Guthrie American Broadcaster and Journalist"
City: Tubac
Metro: Sierra Vista

I will update if I find more.

Google Trends

trends.google.com

I realize this could be nothing but it gave me chills.

 

[windrower]

First time poster so be gentle, and I apologize if someone has already speculated on this or if my speculation isn’t allowed. Re JM or anyone who has publicly inserted themselves into the media conversation by locating themselves near dear NG’s, it occurred to me that this could be to provide an alibi should their DNA be found near the scene. A covering of bases approach. Might also be why some on here have suggested shoes being worn looking similar to those in video - in case a positive match was found it would, again, provide a rationale. “Of course there’s a match, I have been present here trying to help etc, etc”. Still hoping for resolution, this case has left me heartbroken for her beloved family. MOO

Bbm

Who is JM?

 

[steff13]

I think the neighbor called out of concern. Nobody has insinuated they called before Nancy was reported missing. That didn't happen.

I know no one has insinuated it, that's why I posted it as a question. But if the police were already there then there was no reason to call APS. Why wouldn't the person assume the police were handling it?