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I wonder if NG took her trash to the curb, if not, who did for her? IMO
Wouldn't her household help do chores for her?
 
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On February 2, 2026 when the scene was still a sealed off crime scene by LE before they first released it those lines were visible.
Walker tracks?
 
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Thanks for sharing. I was already told by another poster that it may not be accurate. I just was sharing what the Data states. Take it or leave it. I just found it interesting that there is only searches listed for Savannah for very specific dates right before the crime when there was not any activity for months before. Same with the searches for Nancy. Where the Data was pointing for the majority of them having occured was just South of Nancy's home Tubac / Sierra Vista. South is where LE detained the first individual. Now it seems like you are saying that there is an innocent explanation for these searches and dates correct?
Yes, it's completely inaccurate and what Fox News claims about the Google Trends data is false.

Straight from Google:

"Google Trends does not show actual volume of queries. So, the suggestion that an individual person did a given search is not something you can claim via the Google Trends tool."

Source at 24:30 min mark:
 
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That's a great catch about the shadow. I noticed the sky is much darker in the no backpack picture as well. I see you considered that the moon might be behind a cloud so perhaps that's it. I agree that it seems odd that it's so small and of a lesser resolution than other pictures allegedly from the same video/camera.

It is also quite alarming to consider that people in masks may have been skulking around NG's home on multiple evenings and no one realized it.
Could it be smaller because it was recovered from a different camera that was further away - maybe it’s a still of the “movement” 25 minutes after the doorbell camera was disconnected?

JMO
 
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It just mentions exactly what I posted from the article ;)

No mention of a neighbor.

IMO it was because of the SAFE (formerly Silver) alert for NG and it was requested because of that, neighbor, LE, doesn't matter. It was after she was reported missing and has no part of this investigation. Other than the fact that the employee of APS was even able to leave the card at the front door, where we all clearly saw blood and was part of a crime scene that LE released WAY too early, again IMO.
Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, I don't have access to this article as I'm not a subscriber.

Does it mention if a neighbor called it in?

If not, this goes along with my speculation earlier in the thread that it was part of a missing persons procedure within APS.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🗞️NEW: Sheriff Nanos is also dispelling speculation about the business card pictured in Nancy Guthrie’s door from an agent with Arizona’s Adult Protective Services. <br><br>“The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” he says. “They sent an…</p>&mdash; Michael Ruiz (@mikerreports) <a href=" ">February 17, 2026</a></blockquote>
 
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Odd they left the lantana behind too.

Yes, in normal circumstances you'd assume it was blown there by the wind or something. But NOT when you're at a crime scene, it's directly under the door and right next to the blood droplets. I would've assumed it would be procedure to at least grab it for evidence.

When this case first broke and Brian showed us the door/blood droplets, I saw people comment on the lantana and what it was doing there. If WS can notice it just from photos, surprised LE didn't. Not knocking on LE, I'm just curious what their thought process was at first.
Never thought about why they didn't take the Lantana too for evidence. According to LE they had no prior camera footage until Google extracted it days later. With that being said, they had no idea if the perp was wearing gloves or not because they had no footage. So why wouldn't everything, including the Nest bracket (which they removed later), the doormat, all of the lantana, and even the actual doorbell be taken into evidence for extensive testing?
 
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According to this video, BE says most local people in Nogales have not heard of the case. A few people who read or look at social media did know about it. All it takes is one keen observer, who has heard of the case, to turn in the perp.

I personally don’t think NG is in Mexico.

JMO
I don't have a strong opinion as to where NG is or is not, so I am not ruling out Mexico. MOO
 
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I’ve seen different things posted about adult protective services and I was wondering if anyone has ever thought about the fact that someone called them on her as way of getting her out of her house or to somehow make her family look bad.

My grandparents were a lot like her. In their 80s, with limited mobility, and lived in a house that was far too big for them to take care of. They would not leave for various reasons that they never explained. They had a nosy neighbour that complained to APS they were being neglected and that triggered a visit from a social worker who determined they were not fit to live in their home and that was the catalyst for them moving into a home.

They had to sell their house and a lot of people in the area with relatives who were looking for a home or we’re looking to relocate to the area to be closer to family were interested in it… assuming they could get it at a very discounted price. The nosy neighbour also made it a point to tell anyone who would listen how terrible her children were because they wouldn’t help my grandparents with cooking, cleaning, etc.

Likely more common that anyone realizes or thinks about I'm afraid, but NG's house looked to be a fairly active place with plenty of folks coming by to assist with day to day/week to week chores and upkeep.

JMO.
 
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I remember reading somewhere that NG home was for sale a few years ago but was taken off the market. Does anyone have or know where to find that information?
 
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Odd they left the lantana behind too.

Yes, in normal circumstances you'd assume it was blown there by the wind or something. But NOT when you're at a crime scene, it's directly under the door and right next to the blood droplets. I would've assumed it would be procedure to at least grab it for evidence.

When this case first broke and Brian showed us the door/blood droplets, I saw people comment on the lantana and what it was doing there. If WS can notice it just from photos, surprised LE didn't. Not knocking on LE, I'm just curious what their thought process was at first.

There was only a few pieces of the lantana left. On the video the man looks like he grabs a handful. The majority might have been collected with only a few pieces remaining.
 
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I wonder if NG took her trash to the curb, if not, who did for her? IMO

Speaking of trash bins, I had wondered before if all of her bins had been accounted for, remembering another case of a woman being placed in one and removed from the crime scene. 😕

For NG’s house, I see two black bins in a fenced in area next to the garage, and one tan bin in the garage.

In my area in SoCal, I have 3 bins, all of different color.

Anyone know if two black and one tan bin is usual for the Catalina Foothills area?

Links for photos:
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I dont understand the search. Sierra Vist is not even close to Tucson. It’s a good drive from there.

It's an hour and 16 minutes South of Tucson by car.
 
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Yes, it's completely inaccurate and what Fox News claims about the Google Trends data is false.

Straight from Google:

"Google Trends does not show actual volume of queries. So, the suggestion that an individual person did a given search is not something you can claim via the Google Trends tool."

Source at 24:30 min mark:

Then what is even the point of Google Trends? 🤣
 
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I don't have a strong opinion as to where NG is or is not, so I am not ruling out Mexico. MOO
Same here.

At this point I'm kind of hoping she is in Mexico because I think the chances of her being given the medications she needs are much stronger there.
 
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I wonder if NG took her trash to the curb, if not, who did for her? IMO
New person here, very new to this type of theorizing, so JMO it appears the lines are wide and not parallel until the curve in front of the tree in the bottom right of the photo attributed to Page Six earlier (and attached here). At that point they are much narrower although may not be exactly parallel.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that NG home was for sale a few years ago but was taken off the market. Does anyone have or know where to find that information?
NM Found it
 

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