• #35,401
Just a wild guess, but it seems to me that the majority of cartel-phobics do not live in border states..... jmo
I agree as someone that lives in a border state. It’s not quite what is reported in the media the majority of our crime is committed by locals. The cartel related crime that we do have is usually related to traffic stops that turn into drug busts…these still aren’t very frequent. IMO
 
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Mexico doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why risk trying to smuggle someone over the border if you aren't going to be super outward, direct, and demanding about a ransom? Taking her over the border for any other reason would seem totally illogical and carry way too much of a risk getting spotted trying to transport a kidnapping victim or a dead body(if she was unfortunately already killed) that route.
 
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We have “dark sky” here( CA), but it does not seems as dark as NGs neighborhood, maybe not as strict.
In my area, I think people who already had lighting in place, could leave it, still use. new construction ( after the ordinance started) had to specify downlighting only.

I know a neighboring house, for Sale for 2 years, they constantly leave the lights on, very bright, no consequences.

I don’t think they issue tickets here for too much light, it’s up to each individual to do the right thing to try to maintain a dark sky.

JMO
I think part of the reason for the light ordinances in NGs area is due to a few nearby observatories. I don't think we have anything that strict in CA, even near observatories. The night sky is amazing if you can see it. I remember seeing so many shooting stars and stars in general where I grew up, but pollution of all types has changed that drastically.
 
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Felon briefly detained in SWAT raid denies ties to Nancy Guthrie kidnapping: ‘No link whatsoever’​


A convicted felon has confirmed being briefly detained with his mother in a SWAT raid over Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance — while denying any connection to the suspected abduction.

Luke Daley, 37, and his 77-year-old mom were whisked away on Feb. 13 when FBI agents and a local SWAT team swarmed their home just two miles from where Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mom is believed to have been kidnapped from her bed in Tucson, Arizona.

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Not for us to decide, and the reason they don't have lights all over is they confuse wildlife, especially birds. Very sad, but in somewhat isolated, overall calm areas, crime will eventually rear its ugly head. Certainly, all this attention will bring all kinds to the neighborhood. Hoping for the best outcome for all, especially the family.
it's actually due to the U of A astronomy program.
 
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No offense, but is she a typical stalker's type? She's neither a singer nor a star. People can get obsessed with anyone, but i imagine her audience being of a different type. Am I missing something?
Are we sure it's her and not money?
There’ve been a few examples of female journalists and presenters being targeted in various ways here in the UK. I suspect it’s an underreported phenomenon, too.

A fairly recent example: Emily Maitlis, neither a singer nor a star, but a journalist and TV presenter:

She has been successful here for many years but is probably best known now for her interview of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. There’s also this case involving another TV presenter here.

In both these examples, the presenter herself was the direct target, not a relative.

Re: NG, I think one possibility is that someone is trying to hurt or punish SG as much as possible. But it’s certainly not the only possibility.
 
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TUCSON, Ariz. (The Hill) – The attorney general of the Mexican state of Sonora clarified Wednesday that his office has not received a formal request from the FBI to collaborate in the search for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie.

The office of Sonora Attorney General Gustavo Rómulo Salas Chávez wrote on the social platform X in Spanish “it has not received a formal request for collaboration in the case of a missing person in Arizona,” referring to Guthrie.
 
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I think part of the reason for the light ordinances in NGs area is due to a few nearby observatories. I don't think we have anything that strict in CA, even near observatories. The night sky is amazing if you can see it. I remember seeing so many shooting stars and stars in general where I grew up, but pollution of all types has changed that drastically.
Borrego Springs is the only one that comes to mind.



Is Borrego Springs a dark sky community?

Nestled in the heart of the Anza-Borrego Desert and just 90 minutes from San Diego, Borrego Springs Resort sits within one of the world's few certified International Dark Sky Communities.

 
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Then what is even the point of Google Trends? 🤣
It's a tool to see what topics people are searching for and overall popularity of search terms over time and help identify trends. It normalizes the data. The values on the graph do not represent absolute search volume. Instead they are normalized, then indexed on a scale from 1-100.

 
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Not for us to decide, and the reason they don't have lights all over is they confuse wildlife, especially birds. Very sad, but in somewhat isolated, overall calm areas, crime will eventually rear its ugly head. Certainly, all this attention will bring all kinds to the neighborhood. Hoping for the best outcome for all, especially the family.
Light pollution is a problem. Light pollution regulations have nothing to do with this case
 
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Many thanks to @Nikynoo for a better video link, sadly it still seems cug off at the sides, perhaps that's the best there is. Anyway I thought I'd caught something so I framed it down as in 0.5 of a second shots. In one frame it looks like maybe some sort of chain around his wrist maybe a safety chain, but also a black object that could be a stripe up his sleeve , another jacket or maybe his shirt underneath?
 

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TUCSON, Ariz. (The Hill) – The attorney general of the Mexican state of Sonora clarified Wednesday that his office has not received a formal request from the FBI to collaborate in the search for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie.

The office of Sonora Attorney General Gustavo Rómulo Salas Chávez wrote on the social platform X in Spanish “it has not received a formal request for collaboration in the case of a missing person in Arizona,” referring to Guthrie.

Every single day of this case-

Trusted reporter: This thing is happening
FBI: Maybe
PSCD: Not happening!
FBI: Is happening!
Random third party/trusted reporter: Not happening!
 
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Would anyone be willing to tell me when this image was released and if LE said anything about it?

I could search through hundreds of pages or some nice person could fill me in. Please. 😘

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Kash Patel is quoted as saying the day of the
Per Google trends Google searches that I conducted....

December 22, 2025
"Nancy Guthrie" was searched 1 time
Based on City it lists Catalina foothills
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

December 28, 2025
"Savannah Guthrie" was searched 2 times
Based on City it lists Tubac
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

January 9, 2026
"Nancy Guthrie" was searched 1 time
Based on City it lists Catalina foothills
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

February 9, 2026
"Is Bitcoin traceable" is Googled 100 times
Based on Metro it lists Sierra Vista

very interesting. So you are saying your search reveals there was one google search performed for “Nancy Guthrie” done on December 22 and one on January 9th, both times by someone in Catalina foothills?
 
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Felon briefly detained in SWAT raid denies ties to Nancy Guthrie kidnapping: ‘No link whatsoever’​


A convicted felon has confirmed being briefly detained with his mother in a SWAT raid over Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance — while denying any connection to the suspected abduction.

Luke Daley, 37, and his 77-year-old mom were whisked away on Feb. 13 when FBI agents and a local SWAT team swarmed their home just two miles from where Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mom is believed to have been kidnapped from her bed in Tucson, Arizona.

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The thing about a federal search warrant is that they aren't very easy to obtain. Sworn LEO affidavits and/or unverified accusations/hunches/tips/theories aren't enough to obtain one. If there isn't a compelling reason that also indicates a strong likelihood of a search producing evidence related to a crime, then it isn't likely to be signed off on. Likewise, it has to be specific and not too broad in scope.

JMO.
 
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I remember reading somewhere that NG home was for sale a few years ago but was taken off the market. Does anyone have or know where to find that information?
There may be something on Zillow if it was for sale fairly recently and then taken off the market
 
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It is bringing back memories of the McStay family and the belief that they went to Mexico. I understand why they’re checking out that theory but my gut tells me she’s still in the US. The perp, however, may have fled. Unfortunately, they don’t know who they’re actually looking for. I wonder if they can look at records of who crossed the board the day she vanished or a day later. That could take forever. They’d have to track down people living in Mexico or tourists who could live anywhere in the US.
100% on the money BBM. Since day 3 iirc.
 

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