AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sarahlou]

DBM info doesn't seem correct

 

[clearskies1]

I'm leaning toward an anger/retribution crime. Anger/retribution for what is unknown. Burglary gone wrong and kidnap for ransom don't seem to make sense. IMO "ransom" letters were too late to be "real". JMO.

 

[clearskies1]

Harvey Levin said one of the ransom letters said Nancy's watch was at the foot of the bed and that's what caught the FBI's attention.

If he released that info, he shouldn't have IMO. JMO.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Accomplice not ruled out in Nancy Guthrie disappearance, Arizona sheriff says​

Investigators have not ruled out that an accomplice aided the suspected kidnapper seen in a doorbell camera video outside the Tucson, Arizona, home of Nancy Guthrie the night of her disappearance, according to Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos.



I think there is more involved in this sophisticated kidnapping

Accomplice not ruled out in Nancy Guthrie disappearance, Arizona sheriff says

Authorities haven't named a suspect or person of interest in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance as the search continued for a third week.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[penguinface]

There haven't been any demands at all since the first day or two.

The last message sent to TMZ a few days ago was another alleged demand from the kidnapper, as it was asking for ~$6 million in crypto, not the $50-$100K that the person who claimed to have info was asking, and the latest message was outright threatening to harm NG, indicating it being the person holding her, rather than the person who just says they have information.

JMO

 

[Gunther Toody]

The last message sent to TMZ a few days ago was another alleged demand from the kidnapper, as it was asking for ~$6 million in crypto, not the $50-$100K that the person who claimed to have info was asking, and the latest message was outright threatening to harm NG, indicating it being the person holding her, rather than the person who just says they have information.

JMO

These messages are likely scammers from India or Nigeria looking to cash in.
They are not offering proof of life, which is paramount in kidnapping cases.

 

[abanddb123]

Harvey Levin said one of the ransom letters said Nancy's watch was at the foot of the bed and that's what caught the FBI's attention.

Sorry to ask, who is Harvey levin?

 

[Turkeytrot]

Sorry to ask, who is Harvey levin?

Founder of TMZ

 

[TIGER0822]

In general, innocent victims who are briefly detained do not hire law firms to givepublic statements. Just my opinion.

 

[GatorFL]

In general, innocent victims who are briefly detained do not hire law firms to givepublic statements. Just my opinion.

Given his record he may have already had the attorney.

 

[aafromaa]

Harvey Levin said one of the ransom letters said Nancy's watch was at the foot of the bed and that's what caught the FBI's attention.

Link please - all I knew HL said was it mentioned the location of the watch which was not a typical place you would expect it so if he said it was foot of bed I missed it and would really appreciate the link. Thank you

 

[cherryleaf]

No one in LE should have ever confirmed the validity of anything in any of those letters to the media, much less an attention seeking clown like Levin. They have to know he will run and leak any bit of info he gets.

I agree. I know the local news KOLD received the first letter 12 hrs or so before TMZ did, roughly 24+ after NG disappeared. They forwarded it to LE and they were asked to hold that back. Once TMZ got it they just went for it and publicized it and IMO forced their hand. I remember the FBI not really wanting to speak about it at the press conference and they would neither confirm or deny the legitimacy of it. Still to this day with all the notes they haven’t confirmed legitimacy. The only one that was confirmed was from the guy that got arrested for calling and texting AG and her husband with a fake demand. Prayers for Nancy and family. Hoping today is the day Nancy is found.

 

[submarine7]

Link please - all I knew HL said was it mentioned the location of the watch which was not a typical place you would expect it so if he said it was foot of bed I missed it and would really appreciate the link. Thank you

There's too much stuff to wade through in this case. I don't even remember if it was an article or video.

 

[microsleuth88]

In general, innocent victims who are briefly detained do not hire law firms to givepublic statements. Just my opinion.

They definitely do if they hoping to get a big payday from things. I think he is hoping to be able to sue and get money. Which in my opinion is crazy. Police have to do their job and throughly check every lead. MOO

 

[Sarahlou]

Link please - all I knew HL said was it mentioned the location of the watch which was not a typical place you would expect it so if he said it was foot of bed I missed it and would really appreciate the link. Thank you

I remember it being discussed in this thread a while back but when I just searched for a link I could only find this video and you're right he doesn't mention where it was placed. So now I'm confused, because it was definitely mentioned before in this thread about where the note said it was.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/video/ebof-harvey-levin-tmz-nancy-guthrie-ransom-note

I've edited my previous post in case that info was false.

 

[britinsussex]

Link?

Former FBI agent says Nancy Guthrie's Apple Watch holds clues to what happened leading up to her abduction

A former FBI agent says Nancy Guthrie’s Apple Watch data could show possible distress, movement, or a struggle before investigators say her pacemaker app disconnected overnight.

www.wpbf.com

 

[Tortoise]

My theory has been that originally the perpetrator did enter through a back door and that he had a driver waiting for him in the near vicinity. I believe a confrontation happened inside the home and that Nancy was unconscious and seriously hurt. An unconscious or deceased person is very heavy to carry. They decided to take her out the front door to avoid carrying her all around from the back of the house. This is when it became necessary to remove the Nest camera from the front.
There is a u-shaped driveway from the street that goes up to the front door and comes out the other side to the street. If you use this driveway you can drive in quickly, carry her down the steps, into the vehicle, and drive right out. If you use the garage to take her away, you have to pull in to the right side of the house up to the garage and back out or make a u turn which would take much more time.
Attached is a link to a Fox News drone capture of Nancy Guthrie’s home for reference:

I'm interested in teasing this out, if possible, with some of my thoughts on this.

Guy knows he is being captured on video, hence he tries to cover the lens before he removes it. But he is recorded on his approach, showing his entire height, frame, gait, eyes, mouth, and outfit, and while he turns around to look for material to cover it, showing his backpack, so the only part he would be attempting to conceal from the camera would be the manner of Nancy's removal, the direction/location of his vehicle, and a side view of his vehicle departing, if he drove past the house. He could have easily covered his license plate. It's possible after the camera removal it was dark in the porch and he didn't notice the blood trail giving direction to the vehicle, and possible shoe prints he left behind.

Did he think removing the camera would remove storage of the video?

If he's already injured Nancy and he's gained access through the back and is not already on video on the front camera, but wants to remove Nancy through the front, why not just open the front door and smash off the camera with an outstretched arm from the doorway, like he appears to have had something to smash the back floodlights?

Why is he wearing his backpack if he is now coming to remove Nancy and will need to lift and carry her extra weight? How did he carry Nancy with his backpack straps on his shoulders? Why not leave it on the path or in the vegetation, to quickly pick up later when the camera has gone? What is in the backpack that he needs to bring it to the house? Surely he knows he could get a sheet or blanket off the bed for instance if he wants to wrap up Nancy. If it's a tarp to conceal Nancy in the vehicle, he could have had it already laid out in the trunk or the back seat. Same if it's a clean pair of shoes for him to change into. It doesn't contain his weapon. I find it really puzzling that he is wearing the backpack and it seems to contain a lot more than a skein of rope, a roll of tape, and zip ties.

I think he is approaching the porch cautiously, taking his time and almost tiptoeing, with his head down and stepping to the side of the camera as if he hasn't yet been inside the house - because if he thinks the camera removal will delete video storage he doesn't need to worry about hiding his face and covering the lens to remove it. It seems to be a level of pre-entry precaution to me, in case someone is awake and watching it in real time. I also think he moves his hands defensively as he first approaches, his left hand to steady his holster and his right hand tensed ready to draw his gun, which he wouldn't need to do if he knows Nancy is already incapacitated inside.

I really want to know why he had a full backpack, unless it was a second bag to fill up anticipating a large haul of valuables. But with the open top appearing to reveal something long and sturdy inside, I'm thinking something like a crow bar.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Not true.

According to Google Maps, there are several routes in and out of her neighborhood.

There are five different directions a driver could take from the street in front of NG’s house.

I said property, which is approximately half of a mile (dark and winding) off N. Campbell Ave. where her home is located.

East Skyline, East Sunrise and East River Road are all exits. within a few mile radius from N. Campbell Ave. I'm unaware of any other ways to reach the Guthrie home from N Campbell Ave., although I freely admit I am directionally challenged to say the least. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

JMO

ETA: @OldCop you're the master map maker...help.

 

[aafromaa]

There's too much stuff to wade through in this case. I don't even remember if it was an article or video.

I understand but just a reminder of the rules here at WS….we are not allowed to state something as fact without linking a source for this very reason. I have searched this thread and googled and can find nothing about the foot of the bed other than some suggestions it might have been there - nothing indicating TMZ or HL actually said that as a fact or said the ransom note said it. I really think this is another bit of false info that came from someone’s speculations being quoted out of context and mistaken as fact.

ETA Other WSers have pointed out that a reporter on Newsmax did actually say the foot of the bed and posted the link for that but I still cannot find anything on HL saying it anywhere.

 

[tkcrockett]

I understand but just a reminder of the rules here at WS….we are not allowed to state something as fact without linking a source for this very reason. I have searched this thread and googled and can find nothing about the foot of the bed other than some suggestions it might have been there - nothing indicating TMZ or HL actually said that as a fact or said the ransom note said it. I really think this is another bit of false info that came from someone’s speculations being quoted out of context and mistaken as fact.

dbm