AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Diddian]

I was wondering. Why haven't they showed us a video of her leaving or even a car leaving that night?

We do not know if LE was able to find a video of that. There were reports that the distance between homes in that area unfortunately means that home cameras don’t pick up much other than the immediate area of the home they are mounted on. If LE did manage to collect any surveillance capturing images of or video of a vehicle, LE has not shared that information.

To me, it is promising that in the past week we saw some LE vehicles return to area of NG’s home and then a man on a ladder doing something involving a camera mounted on a neighbor’s home. Perhaps that homeowner was away and recently returned and reported something seen on surveillance. Or perhaps this camera previously produced nothing but the work Google did to recover data originally thought lost from NG’s camera offers an opportunity to try the same with a neighbor’s camera. Fingers crossed.

 

[emigrate]

I can't really understand the mat being left there, either. I want to believe that there's a good reason why it wasn't removed, but I struggle to come up with a good answer. Even if forensics checked it out in situ, from what I understand from other cases, a full analysis really needs to be done in the controlled lighting environment of a lab. They didn't switch the mat out, did they? Maybe I'll just believe that's what they did. lol

I can't believe the releasing the house and the back and forth tape up/tape down. I don't know what the laws are but they should have put LE and lighting around the perimeter of that property, if it disrupted the dark sky who cares, this is an 84 year old woman and this has been one blunder after another. Media and whoever just walking up and around the property hours later. There would have been nobody on that property other than LE until every single thing was thought of and taken or the case went totally cold and they couldn't do anything more.

 

[wibbleflea]

Nancy's pacemaker sent data to the doctor by way of her Apple watch which was found at her home. So, no, it can't communicate.

It’s via the phone, not the watch. You’re right about the communication, though.

 

[GrannySheri]

They might just collect data to be analyzed later on the ground?

I was wondering if the crew on the helicopter would be instantly alerted of a signal detection or like you suggested, they have to download and analyze the data afterwards?! I haven't seen it mentioned in the articles about it.

IMO

 

[Mistermagoo]

I was wondering. Why haven't they showed us a video of her leaving or even a car leaving that night?

Don't know if you are referring to when she left earlier in the evening or after she was abducted. Either way, I believe it is because she doesn't have a subscription, therefore they cannot just go back and look at any timeframe. The video that they were able to get of the perp on the porch was somehow extracted from Google. Plus, there would be no video of them leaving after she was abducted because they covered the camera and possibly removed it before taking her out. I still have not seen a definitive answer on who removed it but I believe I read somewhere that LE removed the camera and turned it over to Google and that is how they got the images from the porch.

 

[GailAnne]

Oh no. Hope they're just covering all their bases/checking and not searching there based on a credible tip or anything...

It would be good to find her no matter where she is.

 

[Mistermagoo]

It’s via the phone, not the watch. You’re right about the communication, though.

true

 

[BigCityAccountant]

i definitely would put my money on a "semi-planned" burglary/robbery with some kind of twist, by perp(s) who have experience at similar crimes but are not necessarily competent. i lean toward 2 perps, but only 1 is possible.

the "twist" i favor is that they were after something specific like hidden valuables or something in a safe. IMO, this explains the long time spent at the house, the fact that they needlessly woke her up, and the unusual (for a burglary) fact that a weapon was brought. and IMO the safe theory in particular can explain both the full backpack (tools for removing a safe) and taking NG with them when they left (she was refusing to give them the combination, and they didn't want to stay any longer). ... but the "twist" could also be like what you're saying. either a panicked impulse or some issue with controlling NG, where they respond with violence and then need time to clean up and/or figure out what to do next.

Or she didn't know it. My parents in their 80's have a safe, they lost the combination. If a perp broke in, they would not be able to give a perp the combination. Could explain the excess amount of time spent in the house having NG look for it, got impatient and hit her because they thought she was intentionally stalling.

 

[emigrate]

I was wondering. Why haven't they showed us a video of her leaving or even a car leaving that night?

Or a car dropping her off after dinner even? Good grief

 

[No it's not]

Statistically, after all this time, I doubt if she was in the landfill she would be found. It’s incredibly difficult and daunting task searching landfills, especially without knowing which to search.

Agree. Besides the very difficult terrain and circumstances to work in, they would have to first precisely track down any dumpster/garbage truck routes etc..

-Nin

 

[scandiamerican]

I'm curious about that too. This helicopter is flying about 500' above the ground.

I have to say MOO, because I’m not going to search the thousands of previous posts, but someone linked to an article about the sniffer technology that indicated it could perform better than had been originally reported.

 

[NachoCheesier]

Is this possibly another sniffer flight? It's just north of Three Points, AZ.

 

[Hippiechic]

Or a car dropping her off after dinner even? Good grief

Right. Make it make sense. You would think on someones ring cam they would pick up something at least lol

 

[cady]

I’m thinking maybe a credible tip? Not sure they’d do something that thorough just to check out the landfill. MOO

Felon Friday

They have to do this, if only to try to eliminate possibilities.

 

[Orion96007]

I'm curious about that too. This helicopter is flying about 500' above the ground.

How "signal sniffer" technology is being used in the search for Nancy Guthrie

The "signal sniffer" being used in the Nancy Guthrie investigation was mounted on a helicopter on Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

According to this link, the signal sniffer detection range is about 800 feet.

 

[Serononin]

Is this possibly another sniffer flight? It's just north of Three Points, AZ. View attachment 646993

I don't think so, it's a different helicopter to the one in the screenshot posted a couple of pages back (the one that did the landfill search had the reg N283TY)

 

[scandiamerican]

Or a car dropping her off after dinner even? Good grief

Because her system looped every three hours and that info was lost. It turned out the perp disconnecting the camera was what left enough info in the backend system to get what they got. The disconnection stopped the loop from covering over the activity that occurred just before the disconnection. But things from 3 hours plus and things after that were overwritten.

I will say MOO because I’m too tired right now from my kids having the flu to go find links to it. But it was in the news and maybe someone else can link to when we discussed it on here.

 

[Mistermagoo]

Or a car dropping her off after dinner even? Good grief

It has been said that she no longer had a subscription to Nest so they cannot just pull up videos

 

[emigrate]

Bbm

I have had this feeling, too, that it is a couple of young’uns who thought this was a good idea for a way to get easy cash. Maybe one of them, or both, were known to NG.

Perhaps they even convinced her to open the front door, if NG thought she recognized the voice.

But things went downhill and now they have a woman to care for without having given much thought to how that would be.

I know it is irrational, but I think NG may still be alive. Because for whatever criminal history these folks have, murder is not one they want to add to their resumes.

And since they know her, maybe there is some affection for her

Could have been someone needing a quick drug fix and knew she was alone I suppose, preying on the elderly. Preying on anyone for that matter. This world.......

 

[wibbleflea]

Statistically, after all this time, I doubt if she was in the landfill she would be found. It’s incredibly difficult and daunting task searching landfills, especially without knowing which to search.

They’d find her. For the Bluetooth sniffer to work, they have to know the MAC address (or similar identifier) of her specific pacemaker. So if they get a hit from this helicopter flight, they know the pacemaker is there. On-the-ground searches would be relatively easy to triangulate after that. The pacemaker battery lasts for years.