AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

An article was posted upstream today about le checking cameras from neighbors. Moo

Yep. They're checking a lot of things to no avail, needle in haystack mode.

Again, any residential IR camera only extends a few feet with any detail and even then washes out true colors etc. (on my trailcams Moultrie actually has a colorizing algorthim for it's nightime IR shots and but it's not definitive, I am sure they ran a better version on Latanas guy). This is even harder in a low-light neighborhood with spaced out houses and elderly people with DIY and basic residential Ring and Nest cams.

Even if you had a camera pointed at the street, in direct view, and installed a professional IR emitter on a pole to boost it's night capability, it would very likely not make out a car. But they will check, I'm sure. They have better chances with random gloves and it was posted that 16 of the original 17 found were actually found to be discarded by LEOs.

 

[Serononin]

Are the random red spots on rocks or near the gloves blood? How can you see blood on black gloves?

Sorry for this mental image, but I guess if the blood was congealed/clotted it would be quite visible

 

[hopeprayer]

ANOTHER GLOVE, this one with blood, found by a couple who alerted LE.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025009144772898957

 

[Trino]

I like your theory.

What was the motive, in your opinion?

Good theory, except NG may have been unconscious - struggle or fall.

 

[SMK777]

More gloves, this time with blood. Reporting from News 4 Tucson

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025003120586358862

Well, this seems cause for hope, at least!

 

[VegasGirl35]

Is he still being investigated? I thought he had a solid alibi?

Sheriff Nanos said he was questioned and released, but they're waiting on results before officially clearing the three people who were detained.

EXCLUSIVE: Tucson felon confirmed as man detained, questioned and released in connection to Guthrie kidnapping case

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Nearly three weeks after Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy, went missing, investigators are still working to explore every possibility, including speculation the 84-year-old's kidnapper(s) may be holding her in Mexico. However, authorities in Sonora, which is just across the border from Arizona, claim they have not been asked to assist in the investigation.

 

[Trino]

So that might be a strong reason not to use it, unless instead of burying she were sadly thrown down a ravine.

More likely body taken into the desert. Check a map of Tucson and surrounding areas.

 

[SMK777]

More likely body taken into the desert. Check a map of Tucson and surrounding areas.

Have they searched the desert?

 

[emigrate]

https://www.wate.com/news/national/private-investigator-believes-cartel-abducted-nancy-guthrie-but-didnt-take-her-to-mexico/

How can someone pull this theory out of literally no where? No evidence.

It is getting out of control. Like people don't care this is a real human being, not just some story to twist and distort for ratings. This makes me so sick. I hope Karma gives every person with ill intent a dose and not the good Karma. How dare they?

 

[IQuestion]

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[SlimPickens]

Anyone else notice that there hasn't ever really been the onslaught of urgent public pleadings and efforts to actually locate Ms. Guthrie as we've seen in other missing/kidnapping cases? Doesn't it seem that that would be the most important thing for a variety of reasons, personal and investigative, even if she is dead?

Not criticizing anyone - just noticing that is all. The media has been laser focused on this primarily due to the public interest more than anything else it seems, but they'll be gone soon enough because they've effectively been told to move on.

Indeed, no one appears to be continually pleading for Nancy's safe return. No one is begging media to STAY AND HELP to keep hope alive and the lines open. Pretty much everyone acts as if they know she is dead, and in my view have acted this way from the onset.

Yet one more bizarre thing about all of this I suppose.

JMO.

 

[LRinCA]

More likely body taken into the desert. Check a map of Tucson and surrounding areas.

And the kidnapper had hours to take her somewhere before the family was alerted to her absence. I guess we can safely say from 3:00 am until 12:00 pm - 9 hours.

JMO/IMO

 

[DizzyB]

We've gone over quite a bit.

The houses are laid back, fronted by tall vegetation/obstacles for privacy, and the streets are stunningly dark due to the low-light ordinance. Neighbors cams don't extend out to pick up cars (which would be an IR washed out blur at that distance, IR only goes so far, you can see how much detail is lacking in the washed out footage of Latanas guy w/o the backpack, and that was what 12 -15 ft away. Even if you get extra IR emitter spot lights it still washed out in the distance which is why I keep bright spot lights on cause night cams are a great disadvantage and work in short distance). Several neighbors interviewed said they didn't have cameras at all (mostly elderly) and those that did said in interviews that they would not pick up any cars in the obscured views of the street, and cars never motion detect for them.

I have dozens of cameras on my property, which is laid back like NG with privacy landscaping, including 4K POE and 4K wifi cams 100 feet down my driveway and I couldn't pick up a car on any of them, and I have commercial style spot lights. In the dark, forget it, 35 feet away in the night relying on residential IR cams you wouldn't make out a make or model...and if they drove up with their headlights on at the cams like a delivery driver, the footage would just be a bright glare (best way to obscure IR night cams, shine a bright light directly at them,) Pointing a powerful IR emitter light at any night cam will also blind it, and neighbors would not see any light.

NG's area was a blind spot, even the main street DOT cams at intersections nearby did not record, according to police (and Tucson does not have police or flock cams on the roads).

How many cars are on that street at 2am? When I saw the photograph of all of the press tents lining the street, it seemed like there has to be a camera or two close enough to capture the street.

 

[shonyakay]

Anyone else notice that there hasn't ever really been the onslaught of urgent public pleadings and efforts to actually locate Ms. Guthrie as we've seen in other missing/kidnapping cases? Doesn't it seem that that would be the most important thing for a variety of reasons, personal and investigative, even if she is dead?

Not criticizing anyone - just noticing that is all. The media has been laser focused on this primarily due to the public interest more than anything else it seems, and they'll be gone soon enough because they've effectively been told to move on.

Indeed, no one appears to be continually pleading for Nancy's safe return. No one is begging media to STAY AND HELP to keep hope alive and the lines open. Pretty much everyone acts as if they know she is dead, and in my view have acted this way from the onset.

Yet one more bizarre thing about all of this I suppose.

JMO.

Until that creeper is caught and explains what he/she was doing on Nancy's porch that morning, I am going to hold out hope that she could still be alive.

 

[emigrate]

It was as of Wednesday which is a long time. Brian Entin brought it up in his interview.

Any idea why he was doing on camera interviews with anyone who would listen? I want to listen to Brian but this place moves so fast I run out of time.

 

[Gemmie]

https://www.wate.com/news/national/private-investigator-believes-cartel-abducted-nancy-guthrie-but-didnt-take-her-to-mexico/

How can someone pull this theory out of literally no where? No evidence.

This is the same guy (Bill Garcia) who was being interviewed about the Melodee Buzzard case and his theory was wrong.

Garcia has his own theory of what happened to Melodee.

"I suspect that Ashlee may actually be involved in some kind of trafficking, whether it be drug trafficking," he said. "I don't believe it's human trafficking, but all of the elements I've looked at fit the criteria of someone that's going to be a transporter."

Private investigator working on missing girl's case has new theory about her disappearance

A private investigator working on Melodee Buzzard's case has a new theory about her disappearance.9-year-old Melodee went missing out of California last month

kjzz.com

 

[emigrate]

Well, this seems cause for hope, at least!

So glad it isn't the crazy rainy season there right now

 

[wibbleflea]

How many cars are on that street at 2am? When I saw the photograph of all of the press tents lining the street, it seemed like there has to be a camera or two close enough to capture the street.

Not enough light. Some home cameras will record the street during the day but when they switch to night mode, the distance becomes an issue because, in the absence of street light, they rely on their own infrared emitters, which aren’t powerful enough for the street.

LE must have some idea if, as it seems, they’re looking for grey/silver SUVs like the Range Rover. Perhaps the footage isn’t good enough to release to the public.

 

[Moonchime]

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Maybe it was a staged kidnapping to cover up.a murder like another famous case. My opinion only

This is the one scenario I keep reverting to, since nothing else makes sense.