AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[submarine7]

Anyone else notice that there hasn't ever really been the onslaught of urgent public pleadings and efforts to actually locate Ms. Guthrie as we've seen in other missing/kidnapping cases? Doesn't it seem that that would be the most important thing for a variety of reasons, personal and investigative, even if she is dead?

Not criticizing anyone - just noticing that is all. The media has been laser focused on this primarily due to the public interest more than anything else it seems, but they'll be gone soon enough because they've effectively been told to move on.

Indeed, no one appears to be continually pleading for Nancy's safe return. No one is begging media to STAY AND HELP to keep hope alive and the lines open. Pretty much everyone acts as if they know she is dead, and in my view have acted this way from the onset.

Yet one more bizarre thing about all of this I suppose.

JMO.

I've thought of this since the start. They put out photos and the story but I felt like nobody really emphasized what NG looks like. I'm talking practical details. What the heck was she wearing? Glasses? Is her colored? So many little details.

There's a lack of pleading or any appearing, but they might be fearful. So hard to say. SG and her siblings must be exhausted but how do you quit. You don't. The worst will be if SG has to return home with no answers. All of it is awful. MOO, the Guthries seem like good, hard working people. I think SG has worked hard for what she has. They all seem kind. Makes no sense. Fair is where you get cotton candy.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

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Not the same person---the gait is entirely different.

 

[Kemug]

I agree. What do you see as a possible ending to all of this?

Sorry to say it, but there may never be a proper ending. This may be it, for ever and ever.

 

[maskedwoman]

I agree they didn't say we agree but they also didn't say we have no comment.

The fact that the FBI spokesperson made the comment that they didn't have anything to add to that makes me believe that they don't have a problem with it.

I agree. The Feds are notoriously tight-lipped but they do manage to get a message across.

 

[Sessiebo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025057328593309872

 

[maskedwoman]

I can’t get over how some folks seem to not want the Sheriff to succeed.

Mr. Cross needs to keep his opinions private he sounds like he hopes to benefit from his publicity because he is not helping find NG or the ransom note writer.

There hasn’t even been an outcome with a trial in order to judge the investigation.

Many media outlets are not even reporting facts its headline gossip trying to sow problems between the FBI and the bad guy Sheriff.

Baseless speculation like that the SO didn’t somehow notice the blood on the front porch or they didn’t spend enough time at the scene when the team, not just the Sheriff, but a team spent 20 hours, then as the Sheriff said the FBI did their thing.

DNA was collected on the front porch and they got some of it back which was NG's. Can we not deduce on our own any other was unknown still?

We don’t have any idea of how extensive the crime scene was they could have spent most of the time on a small attack site with not much evidence left to work with.



Sheriff disputes claim that he is blocking FBI from evidence in Nancy Guthrie investigation



https://www.wfla.com/news/national/...now-as-sheriff-prepares-to-give-day-5-update/



'You have no proof she's not alive': Sheriff holds out hope in Nancy Guthrie case

After watching Mr. Cross' interview with Brian Entin, it's not that people don't want him to succeed. There is apparently a pattern of demotion or retaliation against officers who disagree with him at all. Mr. Cross is able to speak more freely as union rep, which protects him in the cast of information for the public good, so he is speaking up for his union members. There has been a steady exodus of people leaving the department and currently, the most experienced homicide detectives have only 3 years of service. That is not much. MOO

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

Question: are we allowed to discuss Nancy's (public) property records? Thank you!

 

[VegasGirl35]

There have been so many video’s of people’s door camera’s recording video of people going through so many people’s yards in Arizona. I would not only get camera’s for front and back door— I would get a german shepherd.

Seriously. I know this case isn't a laughing matter, but I'm chuckling at this whole subculture of randoms wandering Tucson in the middle of the night. I've never seen anything like it.

 

[Fargo]

Oh, yes, I think you got me there, I hate having to use initials it gets me confused. I didn't even realize there were was it 2 different men and one of their spouses or mothers, been so confused. So it was the guy "C" that was driving the RR? He was the one who was doing all the interviews claiming he has an alibi? LD has done no interviews and put up all the no trespass signs then? I hope I have it right now if not let me know. We have to use initials if they were detained by police still? Can only use their full first name if arrested?

No, CP was not driving a Range Rover. It was an entirely different event not related to LD at all. Yes, CP has done numerous interviews. IMO

Person of interest released after being detained in search for missing Nancy Guthrie

Federal authorities have released the person of interest detained by law enforcement in the search for Nancy Guthrie Tuesday night.

katv.com

 

[teeandcee]

For me 20 miles is close enough to stand out when it comes to kidnapping.
This was an attempted kidnapping, adult male trying to take a lady, didn't know each other apparently. Is this happening alot in US? I'm really curious about that.
Idk, here where i live this is very rare so if a case like Nancy would happen the LE would def also look into this attempted kidnapping only 20 miles away.
JMO

Personally I feel it’s irrelevant to Nancy’s case unless the victim is elderly. Not to minimize the awful nature of assault, but this looks more like your standard grab and rape attempt.

Here in the US people 1. kidnapped, 2. out of their homes, 3. (possibly) for ransom, 4. and an elderly woman is off-the-chart rare. Women being grabbed off the street and dragged or driven off to be assaulted is unfortunately not. I want to say the majority of kidnappings here are for rape or custodial issues.

Nancy’s could be sexual in nature assuming the ransom notes are fake. Elderly sex assault is typically a weird fetish or an inexperienced criminal, however, even those are in-house events as far as I can remember.

Regardless, surely LE has looked this other crime. Better to leave no stone unturned.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Yes. There must be more to it because LE continues to be very interested in these gloves and no one would just throw them out of a vehicle. The implication to me is a lost glove as they were removed while entering the getaway vehicle at that location.

BBM. Respectfully disagree. There are all sorts of misguided individuals who might see it as a prank and sit back and watch the police activity. If caught, they should be given 90 days in county jail with toilet scrubbing duty. I dare say that would cure their prankster impulses.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[shonyakay]

Or even a video of Nancy returning from her family's dinner party that night?!

We don't know where the "multiple cameras" she had were originally located. If family pulled in to her place from the right side of the wrap around drive way and went straight to the garage to drop her off, then went back that way when they left, they may not have been captured on any cameras. You wouldn't have been able to see their vehicle from the doorbell camera

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Guthrie family friend says Nancy’s disappearance has been a ‘living nightmare’

Guthrie family friend and Tucson radio host Bill Buckmaster says the disappearance of Nancy has been a "living nightmare" for the Arizona community. He also talks about working with Savannah in her early days of journalism and his hopes for the Guthrie family.

www.nbcnews.com

Guthrie family friend and Tucson radio host Bill Buckmaster says the disappearance of Nancy has been a "living nightmare" for the Arizona community. He also talks about working with Savannah in her early days of journalism and his hopes for the Guthrie family.

 

[snarast]

I believe you're thinking about CP. LD hasn't done any interviews at all. His lawyer did put out a statement. IMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024208192335708259

He’s a dead ringer when it comes to the eyes.

 

[emigrate]

No, CP was not driving a Range Rover. It was an entirely different event not related to LD at all. Yes, CP has done numerous interviews. IMO

Person of interest released after being detained in search for missing Nancy Guthrie

Federal authorities have released the person of interest detained by law enforcement in the search for Nancy Guthrie Tuesday night.

katv.com

Phew at least I know who was doing the interviews. Back to trying to figure out who was driving the RR. It is like info overload and so much at once to play catch up on and then nothing. Thanks for trying to help an old gal out here.

 

[nerosleuth]

I call hogwash on the 700 mile radius---there is NO NO way this perp is traveling hundreds of miles with a kidnap victim.

Stay close, she's there somewhere.

Why risk getting pulled over with an 84 y/o kidnap victim in your car that every media outlet has posted NG's picture out there. If there is one thing this perp accomplished---is that EVERYONE now knows NG and her big beautiful smile.

IMHO, if in fact the ransom note is real---you'd want to drop her off somewhere and get the hexx out of dodge so you don't spend the rest of your life wearing a custom designed orange wardrobe.

My thinking is that if she was taken outside of Tucson, it likely would be somewhere within a 1 or 2 hour drive from Tucson.

When you take into account a 84 year old person with medical and mobility related issues, that person likely wouldn't be able to withstand being in a car on a long road trip.

I would say that depending on traffic and road conditions, a one hour drive would be within 50 miles from Tucson and a two hours drive would be within 100 miles from Tucson.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Sorry to say it, but there may never be a proper ending. This may be it, for ever and ever.

As I've said a few times upthread, my amateur speculation is that poor dear NG was murdered the night she disappeared and was dumped in the hills above her home. It is *extremely* difficult to find remains outdoors. Extremely. I do pray I'm wrong and that she can be brought home one way or another. Talk about heartless Perps. But then again, aren't they all.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Tate123]

DBM duplicate

 

[Warshawski]

That new theory is concerning. If this person has family, or a job, how do they go missing for three weeks and not get a missing persons report filed on them? Not that they necessarily would have a family or a job. But if they don't have resources like a car, how do they pull off a kidnapping where they remove her from the scene? They didn't take her car and we know she didn't walk.

Also, I'm not sure anyone planning a kidnapping would have prepared 3 weeks worth of supplies. Kidnapping someone and thinking you may have them for weeks would be a plan that needs rethinking, imo. I think it's more reasonable to assume that either 1) she's in a place where she couldn't possibly walk to safety and the kidnapper comes and goes, 2) there is more than one perp, or 3) she is deceased.

On TV, this might turn out to be someone who wants her as a Mother. But, regardless of how this goes, I think someone connected to this situation has to be the ransom writer.

I’m just wondering how many kidnap victims are actually returned (alive) after a ransom is paid .

I would think that would be high risk for those responsible.

 

[Kemug]

We've never heard about (AFAIK) the state of the inside of Nancy's house, and particularly her bedroom. Possibly there was so much blood (sorry) that medical people said she couldn't have survived it.