AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Oldguy]

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[Soccer Hooligan]

Question for all WSers...

Which do you think is more likely - finding NG will lead to finding the perp(s) or finding the perp(s) will lead to finding NG?

Finding the perps. And then they have to give up her location. That’s what they (LE) seem focused on.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Question for all WSers...

Which do you think is more likely - finding NG will lead to finding the perp(s) or finding the perp(s) will lead to finding NG?

I think NG will eventually be found by an individual or group of individuals who just happen to come upon remains. For this reason, I wish there had been citizen search groups on the case long before today. I feel certain that, if SG had made a sincere request for assistance from the public, many people would have volunteered to help in searching for NG. Precious time was lost without grid searches of areas near NG's home where she is more than likely to be located. If NG was severely injured or deceased, I think the perps would have wanted to get rid of the body very quickly. After three weeks since her disappearance, decomposition would have progressed to a point where cause of death might be impossible to determine. JMO

 

[VegasGirl35]

Nancy Guthrie Abduction: Timeline of Events

Nancy left in an Uber at 5:32 PM to have dinner at her daughter Annie's house in Tucson, Arizona.

www.tmz.com

Reading today's entry in the timeline, I get why the Sheriff isn't keen on volunteer search groups. Why are women randomly poking around on Nancy's property? You can't dig through that soil with a shovel, it's like concrete. Do they think the kidnappers dragged Nancy out of the house and buried her in her front yard? Maybe their hearts are in the right place, but they're not really helping.

 

[LRinCA]

I understand many people, my niece included who just moved from Jersey to the California desert, love this environment.

But it seems obvious that it’s a very challenging environment if you’re looking for a possible body. So much land, so much to obscure the searches, and dangers like this plant. Plus so many areas of darkness.

I’m happier where I am where plant life is not trying to kill me!

Seriously though, it seems overwhelming to search there.

JMO

And depending on the time of year, there are rattlesnakes. We live in a neighborhood versus a desert environment like NG and we get snake alerts every other day or so on Citizen Alert.

 

[heli]

Reading today's entry in the timeline, I get why the Sheriff isn't keen on volunteer search groups. Why are women randomly poking around on Nancy's property? You can't dig through that soil with a shovel, it's like concrete. Do they think the kidnappers dragged Nancy out of the house and buried her in her front yard? Maybe their hearts are in the right place, but they're not really helping.

I would have thought when the group was at Hobby Lobby this morning they were told where they could & could not search.

 

[Angeleyes_7]

 

[Andreee]

I think it feels slow because there's an urgency to find NG because of her age and need for meds. In reality, it's been three weeks. I've followed quite a few cases here on WS and very few of them have been solved in three weeks. What I'm seeing here is an expectation that she (and the perp(s)) should have been found days ago. It took nine months for Elizabeth Smart to be found. But we don't know if NG can live nine months without her meds. MOO

The thing is that this was presented as a kidnapping with a ransom demand. But we don't know if it really was, or even if a ransom has been paid. So if that was the case, there should've been an outcome sooner. IMO.

 

[Andreee]

I am actually glad to see there are volunteer searchers out and about NG's area today looking for her. I would think they have been guided by LE as to areas to avoid, etc. and it just is nice to see locals participating in the search. I don't see the harm in it, especially since it has been three weeks since Nancy has been gone. IMO

 

[LRinCA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025755757069955446

 

[acutename]

I feel like he might've ensured the external situation was set up to his liking before entering the house and abducting Nancy. Since he hadn't been inside yet, he comes around from the side of the house.

Check out the flashes/reflection on his right wrist right at the start of the video (00:01, while his head's still down) and after grabbing the lantana (00:28). He seems to be sneakily checking a device on his wrist before the entry and reentry of the porch.

I'm wondering if he wasn't wearing a deauth watch.

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This device can disable WiFi and jam WiFi cameras. He checks it each time to make sure it's still jamming before approaching the porch.

Maybe he got a cheap model that doesn't jam 5 Ghz, which the Nest Doorbell can utilize. Or maybe he did jam the camera, but at some point the jamming stopped, the Nest reconnected to the WiFi, and uploaded the video we see to the Nest servers.

That's why he's not being as fastidious with hiding his face as you might expect considering the gravity of the crime.

Just a guess.

It says in this product description that the default is 5 mins.... can you set it for a lot longer?

 

[TIGER0822]

I see this as someone like EARONS

Dbm

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

It says in this product description that the default is 5 mins.... can you set it for a lot longer?

I also noticed something glowing in the bottom right corner of the video within the first 5 seconds. I wonder if it was actually something, or just a weird reflection from the lens. It disappears and doesn't seem to reappear.

Edited for typos.

 

[warp3dwing]

Quite interesting assessment! There is definitely something in his right hand. I see a light beam, Even though the straps of the backpack are reflecting light, that right hand is different. You can also see how the lightbeam stops abruptly and yet his right hand remains clenched. Additional flashlight or what you are suggesting. Definitely a possibility. Good observation!

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When the light flashes, his arm is higher up. He might be illuminating the step and checking a watch as nonchalantly as he can. (If only we had a few more earlier frames.) Then he lowers it and keeps it down until he puts his wrist right up to the camera.

I'm not sure that whatever's on his wrist is generating light. It looks to me like it's just a reflection of the bite light. It could just be reflective material on his sleeve and not a watch or reflective object at all. So difficult to tell.

 

[warp3dwing]

It says in this product description that the default is 5 mins.... can you set it for a lot longer?

Yes, you can. You can probably turn the auto-shutoff off altogether. It's just Arduino code, and the source is available on Github.

 

[Elle*Bee]

I think it feels slow because there's an urgency to find NG because of her age and need for meds. In reality, it's been three weeks. I've followed quite a few cases here on WS and very few of them have been solved in three weeks. What I'm seeing here is an expectation that she (and the perp(s)) should have been found days ago. It took nine months for Elizabeth Smart to be found. But we don't know if NG can live nine months without her meds. MOO

I often think of the Ariel Castro case. . It was years before his victims were found.

 

[Moonchime]

Unless you recognize the voice..?

-Nin

Well, dang, you've got me there. If I recognized the voice as someone I trusted, I'd open the door. Therein lies the problem.

 

[barth00]

Does anyone else think lantana man looks really young, like in his 20s/early 30s? I know I’ve seen people theorize he was 40+ but I just don’t see it. His gait looks very young to me. Would him being in his 20s change what we believe the motive to be? Sexual vs financial vs whatever else

Would also align with them seeming to target mother/son duos. I know we’ve discussed this already.

JMO

 

[warp3dwing]

I also noticed something glowing in the bottom right corner of the video within the first 5 seconds. I wonder if it was actually something, or just a weird reflection from the lens. It disappears and doesn't seem to reappear.

Edited for typos.

It's the door knob and deadbolt. The video linked above did some weird cropping that's not in the actual video. Here are the clips from the FBI's page: NANCY GUTHRIE | Federal Bureau of Investigation

I would've linked these instead of the news channel's clip, but the FBI videos cut out the first few steps.

 

[maskedwoman]

Why is it necessarily a slip? A reporter’s choice of verb tense may be absolutely appropriate or merely poor grammar. The same for a family member or friend of a crime victim. I would hope that police would already be suspicious about someone before considering verb tense as a sign of potential guilt. This level of parsing people’s grammar might be one reason some people don’t make public statements. Of course, only my opinion.

I respectfully disagree. When someone is missing and the person is supposedly desperate for their safe return, they almost always refer to them in present tense because they don't want to even consider that they are dead. And murderers have been known to refer to their victims in past tense by mistake fore being notified the person was dead. MOO