AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tricia]

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[MrsEmmaPeel]

Don’t know about you but in the FBI vs PCSD debate, I’m leaning toward local hard work and solid daily investigating. I don’t mean this in a political way. It’s about pressing priorities, decorum, maturity and experience. JMOO

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[LRinCA]

Unlikely, but not totally out of the question. That would probably make Porch guy and inside person HIRED for the job. JMO

JMO/MOO

Porch guy has always looked like he was there on an assignment of sorts. Someone else mentioned this a while back and it is the description that fits the vibe I got as well.

 

[K9Enzo]

How is Nancy Guthrie’s case different from Bryan Kohberger’s investigation?

How is Nancy Guthrie’s case different from Bryan Kohberger’s investigation?

“With Brian Koberger in Idaho, it’s sort of the PR from the police department that was very different than what’s happening here in Arizona,” Entin said.

www.newsnationnow.com

The biggest difference is they also had the bodies of these poor young people. They knew what happened to them. Same in the Delphi case. They had the bodies of the girls.

However, I’m sure there are similarities with the investigation tools they are using and maybe even consulting with experts from the Kohberger case.

I don’t believe this case is cold and we don’t know what we don’t know which is usually a lot. IMO

 

[vlbay]

True, but it is a bit unusual that a national media personality with a default bully pulpit and throngs of dedicated social media followers would essentially go silent at a time like this. I don't think that it is/was her inclination to do so (or her fault) by any means. Rather, I feel that it's more indicative of her outreach and messaging being managed. If so, the question then becomes: managed by whom and to what end?

A stalker/obsessed fan would be a solid theory for the infrequent and oft-ambiguous messaging, as would an authentic kidnapping/ransom demand. I can't think of any other potential scenarios for continued management.

JMO.

The weird off-putting parasocial intensity (with WS representing the very, very least of this) that has accumulated around this family's very personal tragedy makes their behavior very understandable, in my opinion. More importantly, it's none of my business.

 

[stmichael]

Don’t know about you but in the FBI vs PCSD debate, I’m leaning toward local hard work and solid daily investigating. I don’t mean this in a political way. It’s about pressing priorities, decorum, maturity and experience. JMOO

NBC News - Patel at the Olympics

That's a take. But here the local dynamics are a bit more specific and have nothing to do with the "decorum" of a figure head.

Are you familiar with the little experience the Pima County SD currently has after a recent mass exodus. More than half of its deputies are probationary (1st year) and the majority of it's Detectives are Det. 1s. It is a very green dept. in the rank and file.

And I am sure you are familiar with the elected Sheriff's controversies and his past investigation by the FBI who he has years ago publicly called out (since they cost him an election and nearly ended his career). That's the same agency he now has to work with and many past experienced Pima County cops have said he has an ego driven grudge and won't play nice with them based on this personal matter.

 

[cady]

Had wondered myself if it was the offspring (or other close relation) of a female service worker of some type, like health, beauty etc, speculation, imo.

We do not know NG but if she has had skirmishes with or angry words with maintenance, or health peeps, or salon workers I'd venture to say that she has told AG about it, and I'd venture to say that AG has clued in investigators about it. Lots of assumptions, but she was close with her children and saw AG often. jmo

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Hello. I am brand new, but I have been reading for a while.

Just an IMO here... Would it be better to encourage the public to get their DNA tested, rather than forming search parties? Wouldn't that help with the IGG?

I find this suggestion to be forward thinking. People just want to help. Not just locally, but from far and wide. Submitting samples to add to the growing DNA database for any current or future case or cold case would have far reaching benefits.
This reminds me of the pleas from, say, Am Red Cross in times of crisis for blood donations - both locally and nationally. It allows citizens to contribute indirectly but very effectively.
Great idea, @Bruxer !

Edit to add: I am referring to labs such as Othram that will accept donated specimens for database.

 

[SlimPickens]

The weird off-putting parasocial intensity (with WS representing the very, very least of this) that has accumulated around this family's very personal tragedy makes their behavior very understandable, in my opinion. More importantly, it's none of my business.

The family's reactions to this crime are not interesting to me at all in terms of assigning blame or 'ought have dones/should have dones'. They are only interesting to me when it comes to positing motives for the crime itself.

It is an atypical response for any family to not fully utilize the media that is available to them at a time like this. In fact, most families have to beg for any media coverage. It only follows then that SG likely wants very badly to utilize a platform in which she has attained expert knowledge and experience to help her locate her Mom.

This suggests to me that she is being managed/restrained/discouraged from doing it, which begs the question of why is that so?

JMO.

 

[Periwinkl3]

I have had this very thought. I used to tell my family anything like that that happened to me: nasty cashier, difficult neighbor, etc. But as I've gotten older, I refrain from telling them every little thing because I don't want them to worry about me. Maybe NG felt the same way. We don't want to be treated like children, especially by our children.

 

[cady]

The family's reactions to this crime are not interesting to me at all in terms of assigning blame or 'ought have dones/should have dones'. They are only interesting to me when it comes to positing motives for the crime itself.

It is an atypical response for any family to not fully utilize the media that is available to them at a time like this. In fact, most families have to beg for any media coverage. It only follows then that SG likely wants very badly to utilize a platform in which she has attained expert knowledge and experience to help her locate her Mom.

This suggests she is being managed/restrained/discouraged from doing it, which begs the question of why is that so?

JMO.

I just think that SG is media savvy and is well aware of how words get twisted and analyzed and embellished. I don't think that she is being controlled by anyone but herself. She is also an attorney, and knows how to prosecute and with that in mind is remaining prudent. JMO She has publicly stated ONLY what she needs to.

 

[gin2]

The family's reactions to this crime are not interesting to me at all in terms of assigning blame or 'ought have dones/should have dones'. They are only interesting to me when it comes to positing motives for the crime itself.

It is an atypical response for any family to not fully utilize the media that is available to them at a time like this. In fact, most families have to beg for any media coverage. It only follows then that SG likely wants very badly to utilize a platform, in which she has attained expert knowledge and experience, to help her locate her Mom.

This suggests to me that she is being managed/restrained/discouraged from doing it, which begs the question of why is that so?

JMO.

I do not believe there is a "typical" response. I am not assuming anything about how victims react or what they are thinking.

 

[gbowski]

according to Matt Finn on twitter Sheriffs office did not tell searchers they needed a permit, they do not issue permits for searching, they said they told them they would need permission to go on private property only, more wild rumor and speculation, (and off topic I do smile everytime autocorrect takes out my English extra u in words such as rumour

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/nancy-guthrie-community-takes-search-own-hands

Article from Fox 10 in Phoenix sure makes it seem like the Sheriff is also discouraging any private search groups.

I don’t see any logical reason why LE hasn’t set up searches on any public land(s). While there may be no evidence that she isn’t alive, pursuing every possible scenario would include considering she may have been murdered and dumped by this point……just my opinion

 

[The Missing Canoe]

I find this suggestion to be forward thinking. People just want to help. Not just locally, but from far and wide. Submitting samples to add to the growing DNA database for any current or future case or cold case would have far reaching benefits.
This reminds me of the pleas from, say, Am Red Cross in times of crisis for blood donations - both locally and nationally. It allows citizens to contribute indirectly but very effectively.
Great idea, @Bruxer !

Edit to add: I am referring to labs such as Othram that will accept donated specimens for database.

Interesting positive outcome to consider in terms of the discourse on data privacy, IMO. My first reaction was to say no way, and then (while typing this!) I remembered participating in a medical research trial that could potentially someday benefit a family member. Good thought, and thanks for making me think.

 

[Arkay]

The biggest difference is they also had the bodies of these poor young people. They knew what happened to them. Same in the Delphi case. They had the bodies of the girls.

Completely agree.

I’ve posted the same, somewhere miles and acres above.

Certainly the hunt for the murderers, let’s say for Kohberger and for Richard Allen, were each desperate to find the culprits, although BK’s was quick and RA’s took five years.

It was vital to find the culprits, for justice and also because they could kill again.

IMO, though it was horrifically tragic to have so many young people murdered, it was at least not a race against time to save them (heartbreakingly so).

In this case, as we all know, there is a missing person whom we suspect is dead by now, but that is not definite. So the race against time is even more urgent. No matter how slim the chance, until we learn otherwise, Nancy MAY still be alive.

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

There's been no confirmation that she did open the door. The reporting I've seen suggests the Sheriff said she was taken from her bed while sleeping.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: The full timeline

A more detailed timeline is emerging as the search intensifies for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie.

abcnews.com

Nanos explains what he says he meant here.

In a previous interview with NBC News, Nanos said, “When you’re taken from your bed and you don’t want to go somewhere, that’s an abduction.”

But Nanos “meant that figuratively and did not mean she was literally taken from her bed,” the sheriff’s department later clarified to NBC. After Nancy went to bed, however, authorities aren't exactly sure what she did, Nanos told PEOPLE.

On Friday, Feb. 6, Nanos cleared up the confusion when he told PEOPLE, "We know she had gone to bed."

"Did she get up and answer the door?" he says. "Did she get up to go to the bathroom? Did she go to get something out of the refrigerator?

"I just know that this 84-year-old mom, grandma, went to bed that night and in the morning she was missing," he says.

https://people.com/sheriff-believes-nancy-guthrie-went-to-bed-before-she-was-abducted-overnight-11901657

My thoughts are LE must have some type of evidence to believe that Nancy went to bed that night.

In the February 2nd presser when a reporter asked if LE had any information of what Nancy was wearing when she went missing - Nanos said no.
My assumption is the clothing that Nancy wore to AG's Saturday evening was found at Nancy's home.

 

[DizzyB]

I think that the investigation is proceeding as well as can be expected, with all resources available being utilized. As to the Sheriff, I just think he is a not an effective communicator. I have no idea how the team handles their duties. I doubt he is personally involved in evidence collection or processing, and his decisions aren’t really changing the outcome. He is contributing to the noise, but I don’t think he is hurting the case.

 

[tarabull]

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[No it's not]

Just the shadow of the dudes arm cast by the IR light. Everything to the right of that black line is actually the inside of the sleeve

I hear what you are saying. I am just wondering about that zickszack shape..almost like a torn end of a tape lifting up a bit and therefore casting a shade on the underside.

ALL IMO

-Nin

 

[cady]

I think that the investigation is proceeding as well as can be expected, with all resources available being utilized. As to the Sheriff, I just think he is a not an effective communicator. I have no idea how the team handles their duties. I doubt he is personally involved in evidence collection or processing, and his decisions aren’t really changing the outcome. He is contributing to the noise, but I don’t think he is hurting the case.

Everyone is craving sensational news every day and there just isn't any. We are not close to finding remains and so far, not close to finding the perpetrators . I should say, WE are not....we also do not know if perhaps investigators ARE and are keeping mum. jmo