• #37,981
I’m still not sure he acted alone. Maybe we’re looking at a dominant partner who planned, organized, etc and a submissive partner who did as told. I just can’t see the same individual being so organized and unorganized at the same time. MOO
…but there’s nothing to suggest he was truly that organized. Everything we really know about him, could be gleaned from a lot of movies. And he made a lot of mistakes, not anticipating the camera or smartly dealing with it and using the bite light, even if he potentially did others things “right”.
 
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Notice: AI Usage (because this is what it's good at!)

I requested Claude.ai to compare moon phase and cloud cover for January, 2026.

Notes:
BRIGHT nights: Jan 2, 9, 10, 30, 31, and Feb 1
DARK nights: Jan 7, 17–24, and Jan 28

Data sources:
Cloud cover: Historical Weather API | Open-Meteo.com
Moon phase: Python library astropy


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As always, this must be double-checked with the data and corroborated with other sources.
I don't think this footage is from Jan 11th as everyone is suggesting. I think Jan 11th became a date of interest because there was a reported burglary in the area on that date. Based on this chart, Jan 11th would've been brighter in the footage (albeit could've been a moment of cloud coverage).
Therefore, I'm leaning towards that week of dark conditions between 1-17 and 1-28. Seems more appropriate to case a place a week/ couple of days prior versus nearly a whole month before (Jan 11) because so much could change between then and now.

JMO
 
  • #37,983
Yep, this is why I'm thinking more about LD. Lives only 1.9 miles from Nancy; could realistically make it there easily, multiple times, on the dark back roads without cameras clearly catching him. Would be confident operating around her house since it's in his own neighborhood.

Seems to roughly match the build of the lantana guy, similar heights, dark hair, dark eyes, facial hair etc. Would've had almost two weeks to dispose of her and clear his tracks before the raid.

But it has been ten days since the raid on his home and no news so idk. All MOO of course.
I am not able to keep up with these posts and the tips, etc. Who is LD? I cannot imagine I haven’t heard of anyone with those initials. I am seriously feeling that i have lost out on way too much.
 
  • #37,984
I changed the shading on this picture to silver tone. You can see how different the jackets look. To me it looks like the jacket on the left is camouflage, and the jacket on the right is 3/4 zip. ? JMO
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On the picture with no backpack, is that a persons head on the far left straight between the elbow and the wrist? I never noticed that before until I looked at the ones you posted.
 
  • #37,985
I don't think this footage is from Jan 11th as everyone is suggesting. I think Jan 11th became a date of interest because there was a reported burglary in the area on that date. Based on this chart, Jan 11th would've been brighter in the footage (albeit could've been a moment of cloud coverage).
Therefore, I'm leaning towards that week of dark conditions between 1-17 and 1-28. Seems more appropriate to case a place a week/ couple of days prior versus nearly a whole month before (Jan 11) because so much could change between then and now.

JMO
I read in one article it was the night before but I do not know for sure if that is correct.
 
  • #37,986
Love this new information. Now there can be comparisons to see what made February 1 the chosen date.
 
  • #37,987
There is a clear height discrepancy that I didn't notice before until someone put the pictures side by side.

The man/woman in the earlier picture is clearly shorter and a little more plump. Their feet size looks smaller too.

That person is right up next to the one step that goes up into the nook. Now if the height discrepancy can be explained away by angle and movement of say the certain plants on the right then I digress.
 
  • #37,988
he definitely has a slopped shoulder on the left side. Indicates perhaps a knee surgery, spinal surgery or even a shoulder surgery. I've had all 3 and my whole frame is off .. even causing my diaphram to shift. His body alignment looks to me like it is misaligned.
If it is a younger person would scoliosis be possible
 
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"NEW TONIGHT: Sheriff Nanos tells Fox News this evening that the information and reporting out there that says the original Guthrie Nest camera video depicts the same person on a different day did not come from him or the FBI.

"The info that it occurred on a different day did not come from the FBI or PCSD," Nanos tells Fox.

As we know, sources from inside either agency may be sharing different information with the media. Above is what the Sheriff officially says on the matter and notably this time he mentions or speaks on behalf the FBI too."
Holy Smokes ... could it be AB's same "source"
 
  • #37,991
I am not able to keep up with these posts and the tips, etc. Who is LD? I cannot imagine I haven’t heard of anyone with those initials. I am seriously feeling that i have lost out on way too much.

He's the man whose home was raided and car seized in connection with Nancy's case about a week ago. He was detained, but released. He lives only 1.9 miles from Nancy.

We haven't heard any updates since then and we're not sure if he's definitively involved, I'm just speculating.

And I totally get it, there's a lot of info to comb through.
 
  • #37,992
I am not able to keep up with these posts and the tips, etc. Who is LD? I cannot imagine I haven’t heard of anyone with those initials. I am seriously feeling that i have lost out on way too much.
LD, his house was the one that SWAT came and raided last week, took his mother and himself out, but had to release. Took his car. He is awaiting criminal charges on another incident upcoming. Eyes on him. He is my def suspect, low level punk, criminal activity: drugs, fenty etc. Problem person. IMO
 
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I am not able to keep up with these posts and the tips, etc. Who is LD? I cannot imagine I haven’t heard of anyone with those initials. I am seriously feeling that i have lost out on way too much.
He is a briefly detained dude with criminal record.
 
  • #37,994
It's such a weird thing. He's there previously, so he should know about the camera. But when he returns he doesn't have a plan for it.
It makes me think that he didn’t understand how the cameras worked, thinking that if he destroyed or disposed of them then it would destroy locally stored footage - seemingly unaware that video was stored online.

If you think it’s all local then you’d be less concerned about it capturing you at the time if you planned to get rid of it. The only issue would be if a notification alerted someone in the moment.
 
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I am not able to keep up with these posts and the tips, etc. Who is LD? I cannot imagine I haven’t heard of anyone with those initials. I am seriously feeling that i have lost out on way too much.
LD is a guy who was detained, questioned and released In relation to the case . His Attorney states he had no involvement .
 
  • #37,996
LD, his house was the one that SWAT came and raided last week, took his mother and himself out, but had to release. Took his car. He is awaiting criminal charges on another incident upcoming. Eyes on him. He is my def suspect, low level punk, criminal activity: drugs, fenty etc. Problem person. IMO
Maybe he had a beef with someone close to the Guthrie family.
 
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This takes me back to my original theory. This is likely a neighbor's teenage son.

Despite the carried pistol, his crime costume is devoid of any real and imaginary SWAT / military or, uhmm... "Merc ' contractor" gear.

If he is a teenager, he does not appear to be a Call of Duty type gamer gravitating to the associated gear and looking for thrills. So, maybe a different type of teen?
 
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It's such a weird thing. He's there previously, so he should know about the camera. But when he returns he doesn't have a plan for it.
Is it possible he didn't see the camera? We can see from the background it's nearly pitch black, no moon illumination and no street lights. We only see it looking bright due to the "night vision" through the camera footage. From this single still frame he doesn't have any external light source (flashlight). Hard to tell exactly what he did imo.

JMO
 
  • #37,999
I get the impression of a young neighbor or worker who had reason to try and silence her and/or rob her. A prankish, delusional attempt from young people.
[But for me, the Bitcoin requests also fit in with that as part of the plan, albeit done tardily]
Many elderly in the neighborhood from what I have seen on TV. The 'costume' the person, whether male or female, took time to construct, so a bit of planning, but no idea how much. Could be someone angry with her daughter, Savannah, or obsessed with Savannah, wanting to get the next best thing? While it seems odd to any Normal person, it's not unheard of for some guy to get fixated on an elderly woman. Near me, in PA, there were two break ins, one rape, one attempted, of women in their late 80s the past two months. Sicko guy finally caught, and has 'issues'. In his 20s. I also thought it very odd that he/she would pick plant life to try and cover a camera. So stupid IMO. Why not something solid, as he had a backpack full of ??? Frustrating and confusing. I think the whole Bitcoin thing is a ruse, and by a younger person, as us older folks use real money that we can touch. MOO
 
  • #38,000
On the picture with no backpack, is that a persons head on the far left straight between the elbow and the wrist? I never noticed that before until I looked at the ones you posted.
Could be an eye trick, changed the color saturation again and I see what you mean.
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