AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[keek]

my insomnia is very bad tonight, so checking in on NG, if there are two different times masked man went to NG makes a whole different view of the case, just somethings seem off to me, he obviously had to have seen camera first time he went so why not be more prepared the second time and take something to hide the cameras instead of NG plants,

maybe it is one time, and he went up to her house, then went back to car for his bite torch and backpack, I find it odd how he could have been wandering round NG garden in dark with no torch, it seems there are trip hazards everywhere

lets hope this is positive and they have leads which are promising

Very good points !

 

[Morag]

Agree completely, Eye Candy, Good observation on your part:

Limb length difference?
Soccer injury to the knee?
Shin splints?
Untreated Scoliosis?
One weak ankle, possibly injured from football or soccer?

Something is going on with that leg. Could be congenital. Could be a very recent injury. Could be an injury from childhood and affected his back, rib cage and gait. (He might be holding one shoulder awkwardly too?)

Maybe, he committed another crime recently, and then he had to jump out of a second story window quickly to escape LE, thereby busting his ankle........

Any thoughts from other folks here w/ physical therapy training, or the like?

(MOO)

Could be the shoulder on which he carries a heavy/bag backpack full of gaming equipment…

 

[TIGER0822]

I know what POI means, but can you say what "pot" means in this instance?

Typo corrected. Poi

 

[Arkay]

BE confused me because he says “previous day”. But then he says “we don’t know what day it is.”

Maybe it’s just me, but I say “previous day” when I mean the day just before whatever day I’m talking about. I guess the way he uses it, he means some prior, unknown day.

jmo

From around 2:17
“So, so you've got the photo with the backpack which is the day that um the morning the early morning hours, February 1st, that Nancy Guthrie was uh was kidnapped allegedly and then this other photo from a different day, a previous day. We don't know what day it is.”

It’s really just the difference between using the definite article “the,” vs. using the indefinite article “a.”

“THE” previous day would be as you said, the very day before, whereas “A” previous day means any day before the most recent.

Therefore BE is correct in his usage when he states “from a different day, a previous day. We don’t know what day it is.”

 

[desert-blue]

I wonder if the photo without a backpack is from January 11th. That date seems to keep popping up. The moon didn't rise until after midnight on both the 10th and the 11th, which might account for no shadow. On the 31st, however, the full moon was in the sky most of the night (rose at 4:47 pm and set on the 1st at 7:17 am). Shoes look different to me also. Just my thoughts.

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[Andreee]

I wonder if the photo without a backpack is from January 11th. That date seems to keep popping up. The moon didn't rise until after midnight on both the 10th and the 11th, which might account for no shadow. On the 31st, however, the full moon was in the sky most of the night (rose at 4:47 pm and set on the 1st at 7:17 am). Shoes look different to me also. Just my thoughts.

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But now this tonight from the sheriff...

 

[desert-blue]

But now this tonight from the sheriff...

Well, he isn't clarifying anything and we're free to speculate!

 

[submarine7]

It's def NOT cold. That is who SG was addressing I believe in her response, do the right thing... you are not alone. Someone is 'trapped' and hoping for a safe way out. Someone that knows and beyond afraid of the suspect/s as well as 'losing their freedom'.. Makes sense for a while. IMO

Could also be KD?

 

[LarryLujack]

My theory will eventually be proven correct!!!!

Well, he isn't clarifying anything and we're free to speculate!

Are we?

 

[Andreee]

Well, he isn't clarifying anything and we're free to speculate!

Various main stream media said they got confirmation today that the perp photo and perp video were from two different nights. But then tonight the sheriff came out with his own statement that contradicts that. Good grief lol.

 

[SUNchips]

My theory will eventually be proven correct!!!!

Are we?

What are you even trying to say? What is this “theory”? And yes, we’re literally on this website purely to speculate. MOO

 

[nycpizzaparty]

I think there will be an arrest by Friday!

May I ask why? Is it a hunch or do you think certain parts are coming together?

Do you think someone we are already aware of is responsible?

 

[Napoli]

My dudes. How in the holy h*ll did LD ever end up the way he did with his extensive criminal record??? I mean, by reading his father's obit, the doctor was amazing and beloved in the community and his mother is/was also a medical professional. I am STILL so confused.

And as I posted yesterday, I thought the perp had a medical job with the double gloving. Sooo, maybe he just was around a lot of medical people or situations. Jmo

 

[moonglow123]

I just hope he's caught soon. Someone stalking her house for multiple days and somehow managing to leave no trace of himself? I just don't believe it. Those roads are incredibly dark, but I struggle to believe there's no footage or indication at all of his route to and from there.

And if it's not LD, I still believe it must be someone very local. I hope folks in Tucson are taking a second, closer look at the people in their life and really thinking about whether someone has been acting differently.

 

[Ghostwheel]

my insomnia is very bad tonight, so checking in on NG, if there are two different times masked man went to NG makes a whole different view of the case, just somethings seem off to me, he obviously had to have seen camera first time he went so why not be more prepared the second time and take something to hide the cameras instead of NG plants,

maybe it is one time, and he went up to her house, then went back to car for his bite torch and backpack, I find it odd how he could have been wandering round NG garden in dark with no torch, it seems there are trip hazards everywhere

lets hope this is positive and they have leads which are promising

I am thinking out loud, what if the dates are backwards? Backpack was recon, maybe even left the backpack somewhere nearby or even in the house if he got in the house without waking NG, and the other image is from the date she was taken? By my calcs, I have

1. Backpack and non back pack - same day - two different people
2. Backpack and non back pack - different day - two different people
   1. Backpack images before non backpack
   2. Non Backpack images before Backpack
3. Backpack and non back pack - same day - same person
4. Backpack and non back pack - different day - same person
   1. Backpack images before non backpack
   2. Non Backpack image before Backpack

Occam's razor: Same person, same day removed items for some reason.
But that doesn't track for me. I know in my soul (in other words, IMO) there is more video/image out there. And I suspect that if the digital forensics are as good as I think they are, storage is like a landfill, imo. Each place they find something will have left tracks and some will go to an actual timestamp they can identify. JMO.

 

[SlimPickens]

Building on this, a potential theory could be that LE perhaps compiled profiles that had a son living at home with mom, and that since LD has the criminal past and mindset to likely conjure up a plan to kidnap NG for ransom, and since LD's mother would have the expertise to support her medical care while in captivity, that they could have executed this crime.

That theory alone isn't enough to facilitate a federal search warrant, so there must have been compelling evidence to support the belief that LD, and perhaps even his mother as witting or unwitting accomplice, probably knew about and/or took part in this crime.

JMO.

Building further, LD, LD's Mom, and Nancy all appear to be deeply rooted in Tucson and for many, many years (decades). And not just in Tucson, but it seems in that particular area of Tucson and within a couple of miles of one another. It then follows that there could very well be an established connection of some sort somewhere down the line, whether personal, professional, or otherwise. It has been reported that Nancy either worked at or volunteered at a Tucson hospital at one time (and for years it seems), so coming into contact with medical providers and those working in affiliated professions would've likely been a regular occurrence for her. I imagine she has probably established many longstanding relationships within the medical community there.

Indeed, if LD, LD's Mom, and other detainees are responsible in some way for this, either directly or indirectly, then the motive could be personal in some way.

JMO.

 

[submarine7]

Building further, LD, LD's Mom, and Nancy all appear to be deeply rooted in Tucson and for many, many years (decades). And not just in Tucson, but it seems in that particular area of Tucson and within a couple of miles of one another. It then follows that there could very well be an established connection of some sort somewhere down the line, whether personal, professional, or otherwise. It has been reported that Nancy either worked at or volunteered at a Tucson hospital at one time (and for years it seems), so coming into contact with medical providers and those working in affiliated professions would've likely been a regular occurrence for her. I imagine she has probably established many longstanding relationships within the medical community there.

Indeed, if LD, LD's Mom, and other detainees are responsible in some way for this, either directly or indirectly, then the motive could be personal in some way.

JMO.

Maybe she met them years ago through their practice? Grief counseling? Also, LDs father was very religious so it stands to reason so is his wife. Perhaps through church?

 

[Bluewing3102]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pima County Sheriff responding to this report saying:<br>“There is no date or time stamp associated with these images. Therefore, any suggestion that the photographs were taken on different days is purely speculative.” <a href="https://t.co/ithAgSvJsq">https://t.co/ithAgSvJsq</a></p>&mdash; Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) <a href="

https://twitter.com/x/status/2026143597868015976

">February 24, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't believe the sheriff. You don't recover video files/images without recovering the associated metadata. Metadata would be preserved as it's embedded within the image- it's not something stored separate from the file. This metadata would include timestamps.

JMO

 

[lilyk]

Agree completely, Eye Candy, Good observation on your part:

Limb length difference?
Soccer injury to the knee?
Shin splints?
Untreated Scoliosis?
One weak ankle, possibly injured from football or soccer?

Something is going on with that leg. Could be congenital. Could be a very recent injury. Could be an injury from childhood and affected his back, rib cage and gait. (He might be holding one shoulder awkwardly too?)

Maybe, he committed another crime recently, and then he had to jump out of a second story window quickly to escape LE, thereby busting his ankle........

Any thoughts from other folks here w/ physical therapy training, or the like?

(MOO)

Gross motor dominant arms (not necessarily the hand one writes with, the one you'd throw a ball with) almost always hang lower and more forward than the gross motor non dominant arm. It's quite easy to guess hand dominance in most postural analyses. If that isn't the case and they look to be "left handed" with a lower more forward left arm and shoulder but are really "right handed" then it's usually because they have a hobby, sport or occupation that would over time influence their shoulder alignment - think someone with a desk job who is right handed but mouses with their left, or a garbage guy who always throws the cans one way only, or a lefty who plays golf right handed. Shoulder and arm position is not usually related to anything in the lower extremities. We have righting reactions to bring our eyes back to level with the horizon so even scoliosis unless severe probably isn't going to shift a shoulder either, you'd just see compensatory spine curves and rotations, usually in an S shape. There isn't enough good video to make any assumptions about any possible lower extremity dysfunction, it all looks pretty normal to me frankly other than he probably has some genu varum or "bow-leggednes".

People also typically lead with their dominant foot climbing steps, as the suspect did. In the video the suspect covered the camera with his empty right and did the harder fine motor camera manipulation work with his left, much like one would do instinctively to put up on the wall to hold a nail in order to hammer it with his dominant hand, or simply to stabilize one's self while using a dominant hand. If I had to guess with all that he's left gross motor dominant. But the gun looks to be holstered to grab it with right hand you say. Which could mean ambidextrous, he could be right eye dominant and shoots right handed, or he's really left handed but was forced to learn to shoot right handed since most long and semiautomatic guns are designed to favor right handed. Bottom line...who knows. But my wager is he is left handed and definitely not built like a teenager. And no reason to speculate on anything wrong in his lower extremities with limited and poor quality video.

 

[Charlot123]

I just revisited these pictures.

Given how tight the gloves are, I agree that there either
1. isn't a ring (if it was on his pinky I think you would see more of the band through the tight plastic gloves) or
2. there's a ring on his right ring finger and what we're seeing in the security cam footage is the top right/corner of the ring, the side of which is blocked by the pinky

I can't imagine a perp taking enough care to put on a full-body disguise and not thinking to take a ring off, especially since non-wedding rings on a man may draw attention. If this is a ring the perp wore every day, it's likely that people in his life know that about him and, even if he disposes of it or stops wearing it, people would notice that it was gone.

If we're going the ring route, though, my guesses are
- family heirloom (probably a signet ring)
- college class ring (still a signet style)
- Oura ring, specifically one that's spun to the side (would be crazy to wear an oura ring while committing a crime, IMO)
- professional ring (like Canadian engineers - not sure if other fields have this as well)

I hope LE has a better grasp on this case than we do. It all seems so strange, and poor Nancy and her family are stuck in the middle of it.

MOO/JME

Rings are hard to take off, especially by the end of the day.

An expensive (golden?) ring is hard to just leave behind - we don’t know who he was living/staying with? Did he trust them?

It could be a “Knuck” (a one-finger brass knuckle; Google “images”; could explain her blood at the door if Nancy just a tad opened the door. She did not hear well maybe she thought it was something different?)

Could be black opal ring they sometimes are flat (that could be from Tucson)

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If I were to guess, I’d say, a large golden coin in a golden setting, they are “manly” and look good on guys

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On “golden coin ring images” there are different versions.

I sometimes wonder if it is a ring that can double up as a “knuck” but it would probably not be golden. Maybe tungsten, titanium or aluminum? Some alloy. They are fashionable.

If a ring, right or left hand matters less. In my mother country it was the opposite way, and in general, wedding rings are not that popular. I’d say, “wherever it fits”. It is just the general question of who’d wear a ring.