• #38,441
LE/DA's will sometimes give deals to those who give it up first, but I don't think it would be the money. Maybe a reduction in sentencing or something, especially if they were not actively a participant in the actual crime.

JMO
But maybe total immunity if they were only an accomplice assisting, and they could drop a lot of names, information?
 
  • #38,442

Sheriff In Nancy Guthrie Case Says There’s 'No Evidence' Suspect Was Caught on Camera at Her Home on a Day Prior to Abduction​

people.com

imo I call bullsh$t
So now he is denying this and saying all same day? ABC broke false news? i believe media and not sheriff.
 
  • #38,443
SG video is heartbreaking. I worry the large reward indicates LE is not much closer to cracking this. This is the second SG video meant for the public (vs a specific person or profile of a specific person). The first was around the time the best videos/pics were released.

This video is so raw. I’m not sure what exactly is it, but it seems so much more raw than the others. No “code”, cryptic messages, etc.

An extremely raw, emotional plea.

MOO
 
  • #38,444
Sheriff does not want private searches and yet 1M reward offered to find her? i think SG & family just doing what they need to. FBI tip line was given out not Pima.
 
  • #38,445
We still believe in a miracle, we still believe that she can come home - hope against hope," said the presenter.
"We also know that she may be lost, she may already be gone, she may have already gone home to the Lord that she loves."

“Hi there. I’m coming on to say it is day 24 since our mom was taken in the dark of night from her bed and every hour and minute and second and every long night has been agony since then of worrying about her and fearing about her, aching for her and most of all just missing her,” the “Today” show host said in an Instagram video Tuesday.

“We know that millions of you have been praying, so many people have been praying of every fatih and no faith at all. We feel those prayers,” she added
 
  • #38,446
But maybe total immunity if they were only an accomplice assisting, and they could drop a lot of names, information?
Never say never I've learned.
 
  • #38,447
I could be wrong, but I think the Cajun Navy generally waits to be invited or at least okayed by LE when they search.

Assuming someone from the Navy was at NG’s last night working with LE to get some details to help their search — I wonder what they told SG and family based on their experience in similar cases.

MOO

Edited to add link.
 
  • #38,448
And if the connection with the distant niece is correct — my money is on him too. Who else? JMO.

Looking over the arrest documents from KD last year--her listed address is a town called Sahuarita--which from looking the maps it looks to be south of Tucson. Property looks pretty rural out there.

Would think that if she is is on the radar that LE has searched that area..... I would hope.
 
  • #38,449
My takeaways from the video -
She said her mom was taken from her bed. Whether this was just figuratively speaking or what actually happened, it seems this is what the Guthrie family believe happened. Could this dispel the thought that she was maybe up and walking around when it occurred, or went to her door?

And it seems as if the family is as lost as we are about whether she is alive or not. I know there has been some speculation about why the family hasn’t been pleading or searching, with the thought that maybe they had concrete evidence she was already deceased. But this doesn’t seem to be the case.

Kind of a discourging video :(

JMO
 
  • #38,450
SG video is heartbreaking. I worry the large reward indicates LE is not much closer to cracking this. This is the second SG video meant for the public (vs a specific person or profile of a specific person). The first was around the time the best videos/pics were released.

This video is so raw. I’m not sure what exactly is it, but it seems so much more raw than the others. No “code”, cryptic messages, etc.

An extremely raw, emotional plea.

MOO

And Savannah Guthrie looks so exhausted and desperate. Praying for Nancy, for the Guthrie family.
 
  • #38,451
We still believe in a miracle, we still believe that she can come home - hope against hope," said the presenter.
"We also know that she may be lost, she may already be gone, she may have already gone home to the Lord that she loves."

“Hi there. I’m coming on to say it is day 24 since our mom was taken in the dark of night from her bed and every hour and minute and second and every long night has been agony since then of worrying about her and fearing about her, aching for her and most of all just missing her,” the “Today” show host said in an Instagram video Tuesday.

“We know that millions of you have been praying, so many people have been praying of every fatih and no faith at all. We feel those prayers,” she added
I guess we can glean from SG's statement that NG did not open the door?

IMO.
 
  • #38,452
My takeaways from the video -
She said her mom was taken from her bed. Whether this was just figuratively speaking or what actually happened, it seems this is what the Guthrie family believe happened. Could this dispel the thought that she was maybe up and walking around when it occurred, or went to her door?

And it seems as if the family is as lost as we are about whether she is alive or not. I know there has been some speculation about why the family hasn’t been pleading or searching, with the thought that maybe they had concrete evidence she was already deceased. But this doesn’t seem to be the case.

Kind of a discourging video :(

JMO
I just re-watched the video and caught that, too.
IMO.
 
  • #38,453
There are probably at least a few people in the area who've already done tests and would be happy to upload their data to GEDMatch if they're made aware of what that is and how to do it

Your suggestion is altruistic, but I would never give away the rights to my DNA to anyone.
IMHO, you can read through the woes of 23andMe on Wikipedia to see what can happen when giving away your rights to your DNA: "...a valuable data mine for third parties such as health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, advertising companies, biotechnology companies, law enforcement, or other interested parties. People may not actually be aware of how the company uses the data, and there are always risks of data breaches. Personal information of customers of 23andMe “may be accessed, sold or transferred”.

I think people are misconstruing my post. I am simply saying that IF people are looking to help, might it be a good idea to pose this as a suggestion? For instance, I had never heard of GEDMatch before a couple of days ago.

I am NOT suggesting that people be forced or coerced to giving their DNA against their will. In fact, I have the same misgivings. But a lot of people don't. And maybe if they already have had the tests done, they wouldn't mind helping out.
 
  • #38,454
It is heartbreaking to see SG begging for her mother to be returned alive or dead, but it says so much about them as a family that alongside offering a huge reward to bring her mum home she acknowledges the huge amount of other families with missing relatives and that they should be helped as she and her family have been, and so is donating a large sum of money to help with that,

I just hope this helps, even though it will also bring out the crazies and scammers, but it may just be the thing that gets somebody to tip in a lead that helps
 
  • #38,455
The United Cajun Navy confirmed that its search and rescue crews are on their way from Louisiana to assist in Arizona.

The Guthrie family and friends requested the help. An advance strike team will participate in the search.

The group plans to utilize scent-specific dogs, which have proven successful in locating missing boaters and plane crash victims.

 
  • #38,456
Looking over the arrest documents from KD last year--her listed address is a town called Sahuarita--which from looking the maps it looks to be south of Tucson. Property looks pretty rural out there.

Would think that if she is is on the radar that LE has searched that area..... I would hope.

Don't like or normally reply to my own post but in looking at KD's address....just stumbled upon that a business is associated with that address:

Day's Excavating Inc​

Hmmm. JMO.
 
  • #38,457
  • #38,458
Don't like or normally reply to my own post but in looking at KD's address....just stumbled upon that a business is associated with that address:

Day's Excavating Inc​

Hmmm. JMO.
Wow!
 
  • #38,459
I was only wondering if the post was still there, and maybe was just unviewable now for me who does not have an x account.


If I try to go to the above link, I see this:
View attachment 648022
Before, I was able to see pics of the man on the porch, including the image without the backpack on.
It's still there. Because Twitter has marked it 18+, you need to be signed in to see it (as the image says, just confirming for you!).
 
  • #38,460
SG video is heartbreaking. I worry the large reward indicates LE is not much closer to cracking this. This is the second SG video meant for the public (vs a specific person or profile of a specific person). The first was around the time the best videos/pics were released.

This video is so raw. I’m not sure what exactly is it, but it seems so much more raw than the others. No “code”, cryptic messages, etc.

An extremely raw, emotional plea.

MOO
That's my read as well. The FBI wanted to hold off on the big money for as long as possible, to avoid being flooded with fake tips. I think they believed the leads they were working with would pan out (especially the DNA) but sadly they didn't. The $1 million feels like a Hail Mary.
 

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