AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Pharmasgirl]

That's an amazing point..does the US have nextdoor or similar, I know it's often more popular with the older or not so internet savvy. I hate to tarnish everyone older, some are much better at tech than me!

Our 'Nextdoor' is nationwide as far as I know... Definitely midwest & w. coast included.
One doesn't have to be too tech savvy to partake.

 

[TheDinks]

It was crime scene taped off during the investigation.

It was turned over to the family about February 3rd.

It is the family's decision how to deal with NG's home and none of our business when they fence.

To say the family was shameful in how they dealt with the property after it was turned over to them is unnecessary, imo.

They have not been going in the home from what I can see only had LE hand a few small things to their representative.

Fencing off represents the stage of their dealing with the acceptance that this is not going to be a quick rescue and matters with the home settled after.

My heart goes out out to them that they have had to fence off NG's home, the finality of that, the sight of that lovely home of their dear Mother fenced off.

SG is brilliant and has means and background in law and crime but she and the rest if the family are suffering and deserve our grace as respectful onlookers.

Imo

I believe OP was referencing Sheriff's handling as shameful and am sure it was not aimed at family.

 

[ab01]

Law enforcement changing their position on offering a reward is not a positive sign for the state of the investigation.

The amount of tips has not been an issue, but the quality is obviously lacking.

The danger here is that this encourages more of the same, but obviously they believe the upside outweighs that risk.

This never had anything to do with the family’s willingness to pay. It’s strategy, plain and simple.

Oh zero doubt. They are trying to shake the trees and see if they can get something to fall out.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

I actually tested my Nest doorbell camera last night-- with my porch light off and approaching from the side of the house, I couldn't see the pinpoint green light that indicates a camera is there until I was within 2 feet of the camera, which is also when the doorbell light indicator that is much bigger than the pinpoint light comes on. It still registered "person seen" and sent me a notification of myself, but I couldn't tell there was a camera there. I don't think he saw the camera the first time.

Also if her old doorbell is still connected to the 40v that powers doorbells, it may light up at night, so he may have seen that and thought 'no doorbell camera.'

Thank you @cathathorse ! I've been mulling this very thing. The alcove entrance to NG's front door is very deep and dark. An old-school design (70s,80s). Porch lights were not on, so the space is like a cave in the dark. Just passing by, an intruder wouldn't notice the Camera or if it looked like a lighted doorbell, he may have ignored it. So was No-Backpack Guy scouting, thought he saw something? Then Backpack Guy returns with a light to check further and then disable? Backpack Guy enters the alcove slowly, knowing he may be caught on camera but unsure until he gets close to the Cam. (Even though they may be same guy.) -- I believe the alcove is key.

 

[Trino]

The backpack concerns me. Why would anyone just toss one out a door or window?

If the criminal went to extremes to hide himself, it's doubtful he would leave a backpack or a glove behind. And, he probably no longer has any of his items. Best would be to burn them.

 

[TIGER0822]

I think he merrily thought he was going to hit the jackpot by kidnapping NG and extorting Savannah for ransom.

If it bothered his conscience, he wouldn’t have come. Twice, in fact.

IMO though, I think this door guy was the brawn and someone else was the brains, so maybe he’d only get a share.

JMO

It is believed BK (Idaho) posted on line about his crime. He called the event ‘a huge huge adrenaline rush’. That struck me. Is this why serial K strike again? Was this the door guy’s first rodeo? I don’t know. He struck me as calm. JMO

 

[Han]

It is believed BK (Idaho) posted on line about his crime. He called the event ‘a huge huge adrenaline rush’. That struck me. Is this why serial K strike again? Was this the door guy’s first rodeo? I don’t know. He struck me as calm. JMO

Front porch guy did strike me as calm but he seemed to be almost enjoying himself.

 

[bootsmealdeal]

ADMIN NOTE:

Sorry folks, but discussion of an altered, possibly manipulated image has been removed.

If someone finds the original image and the item can be sourced from that image, then discussion can resume.

Is this regarding with the images I posted? If so, they were not altered or manipulated. However, I'm not denying that the appearance of some kind of three-pronged object might something to do with some kind of shadow effect or delay in the footage. I just thought it was interesting.

Here are screenshots from this footage posted on X by Kash Patel where the same thing appears for a split second. Hopefully that helps? If not, feel free to remove again of course.

 

[Jade]

Making this public is another dig at sheriff EGO

IMO he's been less than co-operative so they're saying Bye out loud

Nanos oughta start practicing his goodbyes IMO (and I've been saying it for weeks) He's done!

Probably has more has more to do with the President's involvement in the case, imo.

 

[Friday Fan]

That's an amazing point..does the US have nextdoor or similar, I know it's often more popular with the older or not so internet savvy. I hate to tarnish everyone older, some are much better at tech than me!

You mean the SM app?

Yes. Where I live, it is basically is limited to surrounding neighborhoods unless you add more neighborhoods. I'm sure there is chatter on ND because it seems that whenever there is a dog lose or someone weird at a door etc, it gets posted on ND.

I'm not a fan of the app.

However, I'm sure they are chattering on ND in Tucson. I would assume LE is monitoring.

 

[Former Reporter]

It is believed BK (Idaho) posted on line about his crime. He called the event ‘a huge huge adrenaline rush’. That struck me. Is this why serial K strike again? Was this the door guy’s first rodeo? I don’t know. He struck me as calm. JMO

It would not surprise me if NG's kidnapper is actually following this discussion on Websleuths. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

I tried to crop a still image from the nest camera video as close as I could to the image of the individual without a backpack.
They are standing roughly in the same place.

Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

 

[SMK777]

Law enforcement changing their position on offering a reward is not a positive sign for the state of the investigation.

The amount of tips has not been an issue, but the quality is obviously lacking.

The danger here is that this encourages more of the same, but obviously they believe the upside outweighs that risk.

This never had anything to do with the family’s willingness to pay. It’s strategy, plain and simple.

I feel at this point in time the only really great tip can come from someone who was peripherally involved with the crime and wants to be granted immunity. The rest would just be people speculating.

 

[submarine7]

I'm so confused about his missing face and feet. What causes that?

 

[Jade]

I believe OP was referencing Sheriff's handling as shameful and am sure it was not aimed at family.

Read again. They didnt even know it had been taped.

Said its about time.

Why not fenced from the first.

The family was in possession since the 3rd.

What they did or didnt do is none of our business.

all imo

 

[shonyakay]

It would not surprise me if NG's kidnapper is actually following this discussion on Websleuths. JMO

Agreed - and even liking the comments.

 

[submarine7]

I feel at this point in time the only really great tip can come from someone who was peripherally involved with the crime and wants to be granted immunity. The rest would just be people speculating.

Doesn't it seem like BE received info or has heard rumors about somebody wanting to divulge something? Why did he discuss legalities of possessing that knowledge?

 

[templeton]

My opinion only…Savannahs family is only worried about getting their mom home. The fbi/sheriff are trying to find the ppl who did this. Even if the fbi/sheriff dept find who they say did it, Guthries probably won’t know where their mom is. I’m sure the kidnapper isn’t gonna spill the beans on himself, even if he was only an accomplice. This is a surer way to get their mom back, a reward of a million dollars. The police can work on who did it

 

[TBYOOL]

Not saying it is related. But a neighbor lost her temper with searchers and wrongly accused them of filming her house. It was a crazy over reaction. Maybe people are fried. Not a normal reaction. JMO. The searchers were on a public road.

What exactly is a normal reaction after three weeks of this insanity? This is why to me having random searchers wandering around neighborhoods “helping” could cause additional frustration to people already unnerved by these terrible events and probably indeed losing patience with the cameras and crews and gawkers and searchers. MOO.

 

[TBYOOL]

I'm glad to read that the United Cajun Navy is searching because family and friends asked them to. MOO

The linked article says the family hadn’t requested this.